JohnFrim wrote:
There is a gross fallacy in your post. Your fractional/proportional statistics argument only makes sense if you believe that all subpopulations behave in the same way when it comes to law and order. I suspect no one believes that. And I am sure your "jailed population" ethnic proportion would bear that out.
The only reason I brought it up was because you charged that the United States was k*****g Black people by police at a disproportionate rate. By your own statistics I demonstrated that they were not, but found that Canada's police forces
was k*****g B****s at three times their representation in the population. I even pointed out that B****s in the U.S. commit more than 50% of all the violent crimes, yet are not k**led at a rate any higher than their demographic representation in the population. And now this is the defense you are using to defend Canada's disproportionate k*****g of B****s and Indigenous people, and you are also shifting the goal posts to indict America on our percentage of minorities in the prison population. And since you brought it up, I did a little more digging.
In Canada, Indigenous people make up 30% of the prison population despite being only 5% of the general population, and 23% of the offender population. On top of this, Indigenous Inmates are:
More likely to be placed in maximum security institutions
More likely to be victims of use of force incidents
More likely to be involved in self-injurious incidents
More likely to be placed in solitary confinement
More likely to be held longer in solitary confinement
Serve more of their sentence behind bars before granted parole
Higher recidivism levels
And apparently this trend has been getting worse over the last two decades because in 2001 Indigenous people made up only 17% of the prison population. A quote from the article I found:
"Since 2010, while the population of White inmates has decreased by 23.5%, the Indigenous population has increased by 52.1%." On top of all this Indigenous prisoners had the:
highest proportion of their sentence served before their first federal day parole release (at 42%).
highest proportion of their sentence served before their first federal full parole release (at 48%).
lowest provincial day parole grant rate (71%)
lowest federal full parole grant rate (24%)
lowest provincial full parole grant rate (18%)
shortest supervision periods on day parole, full parole, and statutory release
lowest federal day parole completion rate (87%)
lowest federal full parole completion rate (81%)
lowest statutory completion rate (54%)
And then there is this quote from the article:
"BUT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE COMMIT MORE CRIME'
"This is a common counterargument I’ve heard when I’ve pointed out that Indigenous people are convicted and incarcerated at higher rates. Technically, the data doesn’t show that Indigenous people commit crimes at a higher rate. Rather, it shows that they are convicted at a higher rate. And if they’re apprehended and carded at higher rates, it makes sense that they’d be more likely to be convicted."
And now for Black prisoners.
B****s make up 3% of the Canadian population yet account for 8% of all prison inmates. This is actually down by 2% from a few years ago, probably because of the meteorological rise in arresting Indigenous people. I didn't bother investigating further.
All this shows is that if a Canadian wants to impugn the U.S. Justice System for it's unfair treatment of B****s or other minorities, he'd better look at his own country first. If the Wokesters here in America wanted to bash Canada over it's treatment of Indigenous and Black peoples, they would have a field day.
https://kimsiever.ca/2020/09/16/in-2019-canada-imprisoned-70-more-indigenous-people-than-in-2001/