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Aug 4, 2019 16:44:28   #
Also in the news was the shooting in El Paso, Texas at the Cielo Vista Mall. This is the city I was born and raised. I am heartbroken over this event. It's hit me hard not because I knew any one hurt or killed but because that mall was where, as a teenager, I shopped for back to school clothes and Christmas presents. My best friends and I would walk (yes, walk, 10 miles one way) to and from that mall to shop or hang out together.

It is such a shame that these events occur. I fell terrible for the families whose loved ones have been ripped from their lives and hope that some day these senseless acts will end.
Aug 4, 2019 16:32:26   #
A beautiful ship!!! Thank you for the very informative tour.
Aug 2, 2019 20:39:13   #
Looks like a great day for you and your family!! Thank you for sharing.
Aug 2, 2019 20:35:57   #
What a great little car!! I bet it's a joy to drive. Is it yours?
Aug 2, 2019 20:31:56   #
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
QUOTES: "So having a pro area as the main support for questions isn't ideal or any area which I wouldn't enter. Again many have said or asked "Why don't you take classes or courses" the way my wife sees it and so do I. if I take these courses, I'll lose what direction I'm heading because I would have taught be someone else who's direction is not the same as mine".

"I know several professional photographers. Some are completely self-taught. All are likely self-taught to some extent. There are several topics on which their counsel is in direct opposition to each other. There are other areas where their knowledge is just provably wrong. It's not a problem for them, because they have developed work processes that encompass and either compensate for or eliminate the errors. So I've learned that it is absolutely necessary to weigh carefully any suggestions that they make. Might be great, might be really haywire (for me and perhaps for others). So in my experience, there is not an absolute expectation of correctness of their response when I ask them a question".

Theses are excerpts for two of the posts in this thread. I did not use the "Quote Reply" notation because I am not wanting to enter into an argument with any of the members. Theses are good valid observations- well-meaning - but I hear theses sentiments very often and I think there are serious misconceptions about professionalism and teaching that runs through this and many other forums.

I have successfully taught, trained and mentored many photographers over a long stretch of time- I think if y'all will allow me to brag, that I am an effective teacher. And...there are a lot of guys and gals just like me and probably a heck of a lot better than I am at it. So here the philosophy that I share with many other professionals and teachers.

I can't TEACH talent, I can only help folks develop their own talents and inclinations, attributes and perhaps help them overcome a few of their self- perceived real or imagined shortcomings. I do not tell folks how to think, how they should express themselves, what "direction" the should take in their artistic pursuits not do I engage in any kinda brainwashing. I start off with a "nut and bolts" approach and firstly provide students with the "tools" they will require to actually perform their art, craft, trade or profession. Like a good "music teacher, I need to teach folks to master their instruments.

There are a lot of folks with all kinds of great ideas and creative talent but frankly, they don't know what are doing. They want to "write" visual poetry, aspire to produce great visual documentaries or capture nature's beauty with their cameras but they don't know how to "spell" yet!

There are also folks who are just too preoccupied with finite technicalities that they are not taking the time to "SEE", observe and make images. Again, I do not tell people how to "SEE" I show them how to observe, analyze, appreciate and apply their skills. I encourage folks to develop their own approaches and points of view. Many photographs are instant that there shod be no "rules" or procedures in the art, however, technical methodologies are a good foundation for creativity.

I don't insist that students "emulate" my style or approach or that of any other photographer. I encourage them to form their own styles and approaches while using their technical skills as they acquire them. Simply stated, if the don't have to worry about, fumble and struggle with their equipment and many of the basic skills become second nature, they have more time, room and opportunity for creativity. Some students become extremely talented, creative, unique and prolific photographers, others become "good mechanics".

Professional photography is like any other unlicensed or unregulated profession- you have the great, the good, the bad and the ugly! In my perception, I don't particularly agree with the dictionary definition of "professional", meaning you get paid or earn a living form your work. I feel true professionalism cenotes excellence, consistency, reliability, ethical performance, and good business management. It ain't a perfect world and there are the photographers in the industry work at man different levels of competence. There are certain professional cradentials, accolades, and accreditations but most of this is voluntary. There is however a natural order- the good folks usually rise to the top and enjoy a good reputation and longevity in their careers. The bad ones soon "fizzle out". It a highly competitive field, there are lots of do-it-yourselfers, even in the commercial fields and if you ain't really good and do outstanding work, you will not survive. Folks and even corporation will not pay hard-earned money for stuff they can do themselves or get someone's brother-in-law with a camera to knock off a few shots!

There are some great professionals out there that are LOUSY TEACHERS! They haven't the patience, they think the have "secrets" that they don't wanna share or they are only interest in endorsing gear! Some know what the are doing but the can not express themselves as instructors, teachers or mentors.

Believe me, there is a lot to learn from good pros- don't resent them, write them off cookie-cutters and pass up valuable resources. Classes, seminars, workshops that are given by accomplished pros are invaluable. Of course, there are some that will mislead you but I think that lots of the folks on this form are pretty savvy and will know when someone is being less than truthful, technically incorrect or steering them in the wrong direction.
QUOTES: "So having a pro area as the main sup... (show quote)

Very well said, Mr Shapiro!!! A wise person once told me to "learn everything you can about everything you never know when you will need it". Something I have learned along the way is to look for those with experience. "Book learning" can be a wonderful thing but the knowledge a person gains throughout out his/her lifetime can be priceless.
Aug 2, 2019 18:11:39   #
Beautiful kitty!!!! I love her "eyebrows".

Give her some hugs and kisses from me!!!

Thanks for sharing.
Aug 2, 2019 18:08:27   #
Bobspez wrote:
Hi Dodie,
The way I see it politics, arguments, etc. are going to pop up in the photography forum anyway, so there's only three ways to deal with them. The mods can delete the comments, ban the poster, or send the thread to the Attic, which I see as a sort of trash can. I think the Attic solution is the best. As far as threads that originate in the attic, I don't read them. But it is a form of entertainment for those who want to mix it up, and encourages those people who want to argue politics or anything else to post those comments there rather than in the photography sections.
Hi Dodie, br The way I see it politics, arguments,... (show quote)

Thank you for responding to my query with your point of view. I appreciate the opportunity to consider your thoughts but we will have to "agree to disagree" concerning the appropriateness of the Attic being a part of this forum since it is not photography related. Like you, I don't visit the Attic. This forum is for me a source of information and relaxation. I, personally, would like to see a stricter guideline that is upheld but UHH "is what it is" and I will continue to enjoy it and try to ignore what isn't enjoyable.

Thank you again for your reply.

Aug 2, 2019 00:36:26   #
Gorgeous car!!! And in my favorite color.
Aug 1, 2019 20:55:51   #
I really like the first 2. I had a huge tree in my yard that was taken down by hurricane Floyd in the middle of the night. I heard it go down and ran out into the yard (and storm). I was heartbroken!! I've never felt the same about the backyard. There are other trees but that tree would have really had some stories to tell.

Thanks for sharing your adventures.

Aug 1, 2019 20:50:50   #
Bobspez wrote:
Because it makes UHH a place where free speech is tolerated. That's why I'm here. I've been on other forums that are run like a kindergarten and dictate what people can or cannot say or discuss, where people are given suspensions or are kicked off for voicing their opinions. I like this setup better. I avoid the Attic unless a photography post I'm watching gets moved there.

Out of curiosity....don't you feel that the politics and some of the other topics that are in the attic would be better suited to forums dedicated to those subjects? UHH is titled as a "photography forum" and that's why I come to this forum. If I want information on cats or politics or washing machines I look for forums specifically dedicated to those things.

I am not looking for a debate only asking your thoughts why a forum set up for 1 subject should include subjects not related to the forum purpose.

I understand that some forums can be restrictive and that's not always a bad thing. A lot of people see enough conflict in their daily lives and want someplace enjoyable to spend their time. Other people thrive on conflict and that's fine, as well; their decision.

Aug 1, 2019 20:18:01   #
Try toning down the blown out white at the back of her arm and bottom of her hair it will pull focus back to her face. She has a very pleasant expression that should be a strong point to this photo. I think she will really like this; it's a very flattering photo.

It might be helpful to post the original before processing so that everyone could see the changes you've made and better advise you.
Aug 1, 2019 19:13:05   #
Linda, I am so sorry to see you leave. I have seen your photography improve tremendously and I've been impressed with your willingness to share your knowledge and time.

A few days from now will mark the day I joined UHH 6 years ago. I have seen it roller coaster with good and bad situations. I've seen good members leave because of members that felt they needed to belittle others and cause conflict.

Several times I have considered dropping UHH and joining other forums but there are some great people here and I have learned some things along the way. I have even gained a best friend. I don't always have time to share photos or make comments but I always try to read as many posts as I can.

I maintain hope that UHH will someday become the forum that is a great place to learn and place free of trolls and troublemakers. It's true that we all have opinions and not everyone will always agree but it would certainly be nice to see the pettiness disappear.

Linda, I wish you the very best and hope that this isn't a true "goodbye" but maybe a "see you some time in the future".

Aug 1, 2019 18:30:39   #
Has anyone considered creating (or recreating the "Ask the Experts" or "Main Photography Discussion) sections for the photographer to choose the level of photography he/she is most comfortable?

Beginner's level for all those questions of entry level equipment choices, camera settings for getting started, basic composition and even some beginning post processing.

Intermediate section for those with some experience and who are ready to make improvements in equipment, photography and post processing.

Advanced section for those that really want to make strong improvements.

Being in a "level" with those you are comfortable with is less intimidating to those trying to learn and would help those more advanced to not be bored with the repetitive beginner questions.
Jul 29, 2019 21:14:45   #
I wonder who he called for assistance? 😄😄😄
Jul 28, 2019 01:14:55   #
I have David Busch's "Nikon D750 Fast Track Guide". This is the new version with his new publisher. I haven't read it cover to cover but use it to reference features I'm trying to learn or something I've forgotten.

I have David Busch's book for the D7000 and liked it so when I got the 750 I wanted his book. It wasn't in print at that time because he was changing publishers but when the new version came out I ordered it from Amazon.

I hope your daughter enjoys her 750.
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