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Dec 28, 2023 11:36:55   #
I see the same discussion at the Pentax Forum - ‘are people losing interest?’
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Dec 28, 2023 09:35:26   #
mindzye wrote:
I get posts from The Creative Photographer on a semi regular basis. Some good info, other times rather basic. That being said, I thought those of us here that are into b&w might find this interesting. The link following is the latest I've received.

If nothing else I hope it will encourage those who aren't into b&w to try it as this medium offers a perspective of images not found in color. Learning to see a potential image in b&w, and in learning the zone system -gradations of white to black, etc., will aid in compositions in color. It literally changes the way you look for/ at images.

Lots of very good and talented b&w photographers here. I'm always looking forward to finding methods/ ideas that help, or in aiding me to critique my own efforts. Always wanting to learn. It offers the opportunity to sign up for updates and notifications of current posts if desired.
Best to all in the coming New Year.

https://www.creative-photographer.com/black-and-white-photography/
I get posts from The Creative Photographer on a se... (show quote)

Are you aware we have a B&W section here?
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-140-1.html
No reason to go somewhere else.
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Dec 27, 2023 16:37:53   #
larryepage wrote:
Which is probably why the administrators would like to gradually retool to better match the needs and habits of younger folks in hopes of attracting them. Alas, it may be an "oil and water" situation requiring a hard choice of one or the other group.

I would imagine that is the reason behind the ‘explosion’ of new sections - for example the “Film” section that is under CHG_CANON’s management.
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Dec 27, 2023 10:49:06   #
bsprague wrote:

Compared to the digital perfection we expect now, I don't know what to expect from slides. When I used to view them it was from a distance on a screen so I don't remember pixel peeping like I might do now.

That’s been my point. We should not do the equivalent of putting our virtual nose against the slide screen.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:24:45   #
goofybruce wrote:
...an interesting side (or maybe main) issue would be comparing cost of being a "serious" amateur from 50 years ago to today, over the course of a year. (You might even have some stuff (pictures, equipment, lab stuff) from that time period to illustrate that would encompass "developing and printing" of photos in the mix.
Today, once you have a good camera and a lens, your only further investment is an editing program (I would believe that nearly every home has a computer for other uses).
With the 1970 technology, you had to send the film away (or, if luck enough to live close to a drug store take it there to have it developed) the wait for the prints to come back.
If you did it yourself, you could rather quickly develop black & white film, but needed time and chemicals and a dark room, and the cost of an enlarger and paper and chemicals for that.
If you wanted to shoot (and process) in color, there was also the cost for consistent temperature equipment for the film and print developers as well as the chemicals, enlarger and paper.
Today, there is instant gratification/ability (chimping) on the scene to see what you got and ability to immediately change settings.
AND, OH YES...today you are not being limited to 36 shots per roll of film. Now, you can do 'bursts' of almost limitless shots.
Computer editing is much wider-ranging than the very limited 'creativity' in the developing/printing process of film. Today you got editing programs which can drastically widen the exposure/color elements as well as edit out the encroaching telephone pole.
Then you have cropping -- and seeing it all in regular (not negative) viewing.
The ability to share photos, even by internet to a dedicated frame anywhere in the world, is there today. In 1970, again you relied on the mail to show grandma how the kids have grown.
And, if you throw in drone cameras, adaptors for telescopes, remote (game) cameras and even "Ring" doorbell cameras, you get a wider range of what "photography" means today.

Oh, and did I mention video built into most digital cameras today? No more grainy pictures of "Uncle Ned" waving at the camera in 16 fps, and waiting for film to come back, then editing, then viewing, but only when everyone was gathered because you had to set up the screen and projector. Of course, on the bright side, there likely would have been popcorn, too...

And, today, you can have it included with your personal phone/notebook/computer, too.

Has any other "everyman" endeavor expanded so widely????

All that and probably cheaper today when compared to "1970 equivalent dollars."
...an interesting side (or maybe main) issue would... (show quote)

A 36 exp roll could also serve as a motivator. Today, a person can take a few photos, then put the whole thing away until the next holiday. Then, there was always the motivation to ‘finish the roll’.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:15:24   #
TriX wrote:
Not sure why you got banned, but it’s easy to get banned when you post non political posts and then someone posts a political response to the thread, talking it to the attic for politics when it’s not the OP’s fault.

In my case, I probably was at fault. My recollection is hazy, but I believe there were several cases when someone made a comment appropriate only at the Attic on Saturday. I didn’t understand that Admin treats this as a regular job, so I reported it and when nothing happened in a few hours, I responded. When he did get around to my complaint on Monday PM, he disciplined all of us.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:05:27   #
larryepage wrote:
All of the Z cameras that I have looked at have enforced this restriction. It's one of the quirks that have caused me to delay getting one of the cameras, including the Z8.

Not a “quirk”.
In general, Nikon cameras are designed for 3:2 photography.
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Dec 26, 2023 17:01:26   #
makomike wrote:
I have been going through thousands of old pictures going back to 1949, I came across a small box of Kodak disc film which was last made in 1982. Does anyone have any ideas how to digitize these pictures? Thanks in advance , Mike

I suppose you could cut it into pieces and then put each picture into a ‘110’ frame??
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Dec 26, 2023 16:58:22   #
dhelix33 wrote:
Spending Christmas with the children in Baltimore - Shot with:

Hasselblad X2D 100c / Hasselblad XCD 45mm F4
Sony a7III / Sony 16-35mm F4
Sony a7III / Tamron 28-75mm F2.8
[Left the a9 home - wanted to take my new a7III backup camera for a test run]
iPhone 15 Pro Max

Hope you all had a Merry Christmas - Have a safe and enjoyable New Year!
Davenport Projex Photography

More photos snuck into this section!!!
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Dec 26, 2023 16:26:24   #
klevco47 wrote:
Eastham Green

People find more clever ways of sneaking gallery material in here.
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Dec 26, 2023 16:21:07   #
levinton wrote:
These comments remind me of a lingering question: how big digitally, is a medium format film image

I believe that practically, for most cases, the number is actually reasonably small, because in most cases the viewer will sit/stand such that s/he can see the whole picture at once, so in practical terms a “FF” digital photo will do as well.
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Dec 26, 2023 13:18:00   #
MrBob wrote:
I hate to admit this but I have a brand new Minolta Dimage still in box with Silverfast software. Boxes and boxes of carousels stored in attic from Kodachrome, Velvia and Ektachrome days. How did we ever manage at ISO 25 and 64 with no digital editing. I am coming to realization I am more collector than user... Oh well. BTW, what do you think of GIMP ? Until I get my new LR/PS bundle I am not spending any more money. I downloaded and virus scanned it and will try it out today...

A {literal} attic is a lousy place to store slides - at least in the summer it is; the heat will speed up their “aging”. I scanned my slides basically as soon as I got a digital camera.

Incidentally, I use ‘gimp’ exclusively -both the Linux version and the windows version. I hear people have trouble with it, but, then, I’m a retired “software engineer”, so it was written by people who think like I do.
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Dec 26, 2023 12:41:51   #
Bill_de wrote:
Everybody likes to have their say, some over and over again.

If anybody really cared they would have requested, way back, that this thread be moved to chit chat.
It has left photography behind a long time ago!

Just saying'

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I really do care, and I’m glad this thread stays here. Before my ‘vacation’ I was banned from the “ChitChat” Section, and removing that ban doesn’t seem to be important to the Admin - and I’ve chosen to not push the issue.
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Dec 26, 2023 10:42:12   #
https://barfout.jp/feature/6133/

This is with a young model / actress / amateur photographer

She sounds kind of ‘ditzy’ to me; I suppose she is fine at her profession.
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Dec 25, 2023 18:01:21   #
SX2002 wrote:
Did you ever think that people post flowers there because it's a popular category...what you might think should go there might not suit other members...we can then lobby to get your favourites removed to another new section.
I enjoy looking at the Photo Gallery because it has a wide variety of subjects, it's called photography...I, along with many others, was quite miffed when they removed birds from that section...
Did you ever think that people post flowers there ... (show quote)

but I get tired of folk’s posting their photos in this section.
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