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Jan 25, 2024 20:02:13   #
robertjerl wrote:
Thanks very much.

Those flowers are such a pale pink they look white at first glance, and they have slick smooth light reflecting surfaces. To top it off they were in direct overhead sunlight. The dark background is an out of focus cedar tree.

I ran an anti-noise app at low setting, and the shutter speed is relatively low for that long a lens.


You are welcome. People do not realize how reflective the petals can be. I suspected you had denoised it. Nothing wrong with that.
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Jan 25, 2024 09:11:39   #
Your two posts today are wonderful. Amazingly sharp and clean. ISO 3200 and no noise. How did you accomplish that? Wonderful depth of field at f/22 without any loss of sharpness due to the small aperture. Pretty nice. My only bone to pick on both shots is that the flowers are too bright. They vie for the eye's attention with the bee. I would have either dialed down their brightness or add a little vignette. I find the first post much better because of that lovely dark background and fewer distracting flowers.

Thanks for posting and showing what is possible.
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Jan 22, 2024 13:24:02   #
Cany143 wrote:
In what way (or ways) do you feel your panorama is "not nearly as beautiful as the actual scene"? And by 'technique', are you asking for advice on camera technique or on processing technique?

I can only say how I'd have shot and --subsequently processed-- a scene like this, but I can't say that what I'd have done differently would have resulted in anything necessarily 'better', or would hopefully capture the perceived beauty of the actual scene. I can, however, say why what I would've done would've been true to my aesthetic, but I can't say it would've been true to your aesthetic. That said....

Leaving off mention of the obvious 'black edge' area where nothing was exposed and Stitcher (which I know nothing about; I use LrC and/or Ps instead) didn't fill that blank for you (which could easily be 'filled' --or eliminated altogether-- through any of several means, two visual issues come to mind. Both involve the foreground area of your image; the near-ground lies short of the depth of field/focus, short of the aperture/focus point you'd chosen (the camera 'fix' should be obvious --focus closer or use a smaller aperture) and the foreground might be a bit 'murkier' than might be optimal (the processing 'fix' should be equally obvious--raise the shadow values slightly and increase contrast and color values selectively, but doing so would be dependent on your processing skills and/or whatever editing software you may have).

Personally, I'd have focus-stacked a pano like this, and I'd likewise have processed the result as I mentioned above. But that would express my aesthetic, not yours.

<edit/addendum> Contrary to the comment above, I would NOT eliminate the little Joshua tree in the foreground center. If it had been better defined and been brightened somewhat, it's placement would've provided a subtle anchor for the remainder of the image. But doing so would require a re-shoot, so....
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Good comments and I agree about out of focus tree. If it were sharp, then it could stay although I might prefer it to be off-center.
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Jan 22, 2024 12:24:24   #
Thanks for posting and asking for help. The stitching is fine but you should pay attention to some other details. These are artistic issues so are opinions and not statements of fact. A higher horizon to emphasize the distance from me to the hills behind or a lower horizon to emphasize that great big beautiful sky.

While the exposure on the sky is ok, the foreground is too dark for my taste. If you shot raw, then you should have little trouble lightening it up slightly. You could also bracket your exposure and mask in Photoshop. After the sky and foreground are exposed properly, you could add very slight linear gradients from the top and bottom to draw the eye to those far off hills.

That little, out of focus cactus in the foreground is very distracting so I would remove it.

When shooting panoramas, I hold the camera vertically so I have more freedom in cropping later on.

Keep practicing and posting.
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Jan 19, 2024 11:21:16   #
You made only one unforgivable sin: not shooting raw.
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Jan 16, 2024 14:47:01   #
Very nice pictures. Thanks for posting but damn it, Cindy, you spelled dam wrong.
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Jan 15, 2024 17:03:49   #
wdross wrote:
Occasionally shooting in a breeze will cause the cannot stack error prompt.

I just need to do more practice. And, Blenheim Orange, I will view the video. But I have found much from all your suggestions and observations. I found only five of the ten images were actually used to make the final image. And it did not even use the first one of the stacked images. One of the camera choices is the spacing of the images. I forgot the depth of field gets very thin at close to 1:1. It would have been much more interesting to see if I would have changed the spacing such that it would have used all ten images to make the final image instead of just five. Also, it looks like using even more images (15) on stationary closeup subjects might help. I will have to test the new settings and see if the internal software works better than it does with five images. A new lens to learn along with learning the proper focus stacking settings. C'est la vie.
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I am glad you want to experiment and learn. Good for you and good luck. Post your lessons.
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Jan 15, 2024 14:00:52   #
capmike wrote:
You asked, so… In my opinion there is not a single part of that image in focus, unless that was your goal. I believe you need a tripod for that type of shot.

Good luck,

CM


I agree. Hopefully no breeze. I would prefer more vivid colors. The picture may not do justice to this pretty flower.
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Jan 14, 2024 18:33:58   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
In those days? He’s current.


I am sorry. You are right. He was born in 1948; I misread that as he did his first work then. Thanks for correcting me.
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Jan 14, 2024 15:32:24   #
I like the big sky and might have cropped out some of the foreground. Beautify colors with a touch of drama. Thanks for posting.
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Jan 14, 2024 15:29:18   #
I love that bright soon. Makes me shut my eyes. However, the right side and foreground is a bit to dark for me. I might have cropped out some of the foreground to make the sky "bigger". Thanks for posting.
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Jan 14, 2024 15:24:52   #
Physlab wrote:
Why mess about with effects such as the Adamski? I enjoy experimentation and working with different effects ends up teaching me more about the post-processing tools I have available.

Once the sun returns to Oregon I plan an "assault" on infrared photography. Not that every photo needs this application, but it will require me to use different techniques both with camera, iPhone, and software. Call it an educational experience.

I have software tools that convert photographs to paintings in the style of famous painters. While this is not appealing to many viewers, and many conversions are failures in my opinion, I still enjoy the experimentation.

The above explains in part why I plan to push my photographic limits.

Lowell
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Good comments. As I stated elsewhere on UHH, I started photography in 1959 when we had trouble getting good photos from a technical standpoint. (Great composition was easier to achieve.) That is still my goal. Accuse me on not changing with the times but this is my photographic sensibility. My experimenting is to get sharper pictures with great colors. As for you, keep experimenting and posting.
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Jan 14, 2024 15:20:36   #
Fstop12 wrote:
"Artsy-fartsy" isn't for everyone. Also, I don't think the Josh Adamski effect is about using a bad photo. More using an isolated element from a good photo to create a piece of digital art. Who is Josh Adamski? Tel Aviv born, living in England and Tel Aviv photographer Josh Adamski has specialized in colorful, surreal photo impressionism art. With a fanciful image processing technique is he primarily coastal landscapes to create a fabulous mix of photography and abstract line drawings, Josh Adamski lives near the sea, his greatest inspiration. love art, and focuses mainly on unique seascapes and landscapes, which he transforms into distinctive images using his unique processing technique. This special style was devised by Josh Adamski himself and has attracted many followers worldwide.

As far as I know, the effect isn't created by using any "Preset" rather it takes some Photoshop/Post Processing software skills to achieve the look. Here is a video presentation by well known Photoshop expert:
Nicole S. Young showing how it's done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuVibZdLoIM
When done correctly, you will produce a piece of surreal photo impressionism art.
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Thank you for your good comments. I did look Adamski up. In those days, doing things like this required great imagination and technical skill. I certainly admire that. One way of achieving that was by smearing Vaseline on a glass negative carrier in the enlarger. My gripe is that the presets require so little imagination and skill in our digital world and seem more to cover up a bad photo than to enhance a good one. I encourage experimentation but beware of the results. They do not always result in "fine art".
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Jan 14, 2024 12:51:06   #
Physlab wrote:
BDK,

There are numerous PS YouTube videos on the Adamaski Effect, but few using ON1 so I came up with my own method. I'm sure you have looked at many.

Here is another example. I should take more time to refine the edges of the locomotive, but that can come later.

Lowell


This looks like a model train. I would have liked seeing the original instead. Probably had real possibilities.
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Jan 14, 2024 12:48:28   #
NickGee wrote:
I don't see that the effect adds anything to the composition. Quite the contrary. I find it terribly distracting, like AI fakery. Is this a filter of some sort that's used? I'm not familiar with the effect.


I agree with you. Looks like we are the odd men out. I am tired of seeing the artsy-fartsy gimmickry in photography. I guess if you cannot get a good photo, go to the presets to obscure that. I am sure this will inspire a lot of criticism. I get that but if you are going to be nasty, do not reply. I am open to civil discourse with people of all opinions on this topic.
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