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Mar 18, 2019 10:40:25   #
dub3 Loc: Sunrise Beach, Texas
 
I’m not a Canon guy but a friend asked me to sell her deceased husbands AE-1. It is in pristine condition. Looks new. Has strap, Vivitar 28mm 2.8, Jagar 80-200mm 4.5, 2x converter, Sakar auto27B flash, original instructions, caps and custom Coaslar bag. Looks lik everything may have been a kit. I don’t have a clue as to value, looking for offers. Would be great addition to Canon collection.

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Mar 18, 2019 10:46:39   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Don't expect very much - maybe $100.00?

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Mar 18, 2019 10:49:18   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
I was going to also say $100. Before offering for sale, open the battery compartment and assure there's no battery inside nor any corrosion from a long forgotten battery.

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Mar 18, 2019 11:01:24   #
dub3 Loc: Sunrise Beach, Texas
 
Battery compartment is spotless, thanks

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Mar 18, 2019 11:07:35   #
roger
 
Look at ebay, but remember only the "sold" items indicate price. Also, KEH and a few others like them will buy used cameras, etc.

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Mar 18, 2019 11:16:29   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
dub3 wrote:
I’m not a Canon guy but a friend asked me to sell her deceased husbands AE-1. It is in pristine condition. Looks new. Has strap, Vivitar 28mm 2.8, Jagar 80-200mm 4.5, 2x converter, Sakar auto27B flash, original instructions, caps and custom Coaslar bag. Looks lik everything may have been a kit. I don’t have a clue as to value, looking for offers. Would be great addition to Canon collection.


Quick Google search shows them from a high of $219 to a low of $41.

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Mar 18, 2019 14:21:03   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
The problem with AE-1 is that there were literally millions of them sold which makes them super easy to find in good condition, and they use the old Canon FL/FD lens mount which was discontinued in the late 1980s and makes the lenses used by AE-1 incompatible with modern EOS/EF-mount cameras.

There were two versions of AE-1 (original intro'd in 1976 and "Program" from 1981),. Both of them are very common in matte chrome finish, more rarely found in a black lacquer finish. The black finish is also more prone to show wear from use (dents, scratches and "brassing"). The matte chrome finish hides flaws and wear better.

Original AE-1 in chrome finish might at best bring $25 to $75, for the camera alone. I've bought them for as little as $10 in good condition. A black body in really nice condition can bring $50 more, but if it shows a lot of wear that will reduce its value.

The later AE-1 "Program" version is also a bit more valuable, with some nice enhancements. The original AE-1 offers manual and aperture priority auto exposure. The AE-1P has those plus an additional program exposure mode. The AE-1P also got an improved, brighter viewfinder and interchangeable focus screens. the original AE-1 can be fitted with a Winder A and is compatible with the later Winder A2, as well. Those provide maybe 2 frame per second film advance. The AE-1P works with those Winders, too, but it also can be used with Motor Drive MA (which also works on the A-1), with approx. 4 or 5 frame per second film advance. In chrome finish the AE-1P might bring $40 to $125... in black finish $50 to $75 more. Again, wear and tear will reduce the value of a black body.

Both AE-1 versions use essentially the same internal shutter and mirror mechanisms, which is prone to developing "shutter squeal" when the camera sits unused for a long time. In spite of what it's called, this it is actually part of the mirror lifting mechanism that causes the noise. It's due to lubrication that's dried up and no longer doing its job. Advance the shutter wind lever and press the shutter release button, to see if the camera exhibits this problem (battery required, see below). It will be pretty obvious from the noise if the camera has shutter squeal.

I know for certain the AE-1 Program and am pretty sure the original AE-1 are "battery dependent". In other words, they will not function without a battery installed. This is due to the micro-processor controlled shutter. That makes for more accurate shutter speeds, but no longer has fully mechanical "clock work" that can operate without a battery. As a result, to test the camera for shutter squeal will require purchasing a battery, if you don't already have one. The good news is that the AE-1 models doesn't use the no-longer-available mercury cells that many other SLRs of that time used. Both AE-1 use commonly available six volt 4SR44 (silver oxide) or 4LR44 (lithium) batteries. It also an use a single PX28A (alkaline) battery. Alternatively, they also can be powered by a stack of four of the smaller, 1.5 volt SR44 or LR44 batteries (which are a little more difficult to install). There are a couple other batteries that also can be used, but those are the most commonly found. If you don't have one, I recommend you get a battery and install it in the camera to test it for function. It's not a big cost and buyers will appreciate that the camera has passed basic tests. (Remove the battery when done testing.)

To install the battery requires you first remove the grip (assuming it's still on the camera.... many were removed and lost). It's held in place by a simple screw that has an oversize slot so a coin can be used to loosen it. With the grip off the camera, the little door covering the battery compartment can be accessed. It has a little latch. Gently press that to release and open the door (it's made of plastic, so handle with some care). Note: Last time I looked, replacements were available for both the grip and the little door covering the battery compartment... but if the originals are still in place and good, they are probably better quality than the "clones" now being made.

Shutter squeal actually isn't a big deal, but it devalues the camera to a lot of buyers. It's possible to fix it with a tiny drop of light oil placed in just the right place ("sewing machine" oil works fine). However, it would be better if the camera were given a proper "CLA" or "clean, lube and adjust", which a 30+ year old camera probably needs anyway. There's also good chance the camera needs new light seals installed. Those wear out or get brittle and crumble from age. Having a CLA and new seals installed will likely cost around $150 or more. I'm not suggesting you have this work done, though, because you won't recoup your money. A fully tuned up and properly working AE-1 just isn't going to sell for enough to recover what you'd spend. Even in top working condition, they are unlikely to bring significantly more unless the camera is fitted with a high end lens.

If you have a manual with the camera, great! If not and you want one, it can be downloaded from https://www.butkus.org/chinon/canon.htm (different manual, depending upon whether it's the original AE-1 or the AE-1 Program). Manuals are free there, but donations are appreciated.

Unfortunately, the lenses and flash with the camera sound as if they are all "consumer grade" third party and nothing special, which usually sell pretty cheap on the used market.... particularly in the old FL/FD mount that isn't compatible with modern Canon EOS/EF mount (can be adapted for use on the Canon mirrorless). I wouldn't expect to get more than $10 or $15 apiece them. If you search eBay for "sold" AE-1 you will find most with more favorable selling prices are fitted with Canon 50mm FD"n" f/1.4 or f/1.8 lenses, which are more valuable than third party lenses.

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Mar 18, 2019 20:48:48   #
Bill 45
 
Last mouth I sold a Canon AE-1 with three lens 50mm. 28mm and 70 - 200mm For $75.00

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Mar 18, 2019 21:39:41   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
amfoto1 wrote:
The problem with AE-1 is that there were literally millions of them sold which makes them super easy to find in good condition, and they use the old Canon FL/FD lens mount which was discontinued in the late 1980s and makes the lenses used by AE-1 incompatible with modern EOS/EF-mount cameras.

There were two versions of AE-1 (original intro'd in 1976 and "Program" from 1981),. Both of them are very common in matte chrome finish, more rarely found in a black lacquer finish. The black finish is also more prone to show wear from use (dents, scratches and "brassing"). The matte chrome finish hides flaws and wear better.

Original AE-1 in chrome finish might at best bring $25 to $75, for the camera alone. I've bought them for as little as $10 in good condition. A black body in really nice condition can bring $50 more, but if it shows a lot of wear that will reduce its value.

The later AE-1 "Program" version is also a bit more valuable, with some nice enhancements. The original AE-1 offers manual and aperture priority auto exposure. The AE-1P has those plus an additional program exposure mode. The AE-1P also got an improved, brighter viewfinder and interchangeable focus screens. the original AE-1 can be fitted with a Winder A and is compatible with the later Winder A2, as well. Those provide maybe 2 frame per second film advance. The AE-1P works with those Winders, too, but it also can be used with Motor Drive MA (which also works on the A-1), with approx. 4 or 5 frame per second film advance. In chrome finish the AE-1P might bring $40 to $125... in black finish $50 to $75 more. Again, wear and tear will reduce the value of a black body.

Both AE-1 versions use essentially the same internal shutter and mirror mechanisms, which is prone to developing "shutter squeal" when the camera sits unused for a long time. In spite of what it's called, this it is actually part of the mirror lifting mechanism that causes the noise. It's due to lubrication that's dried up and no longer doing its job. Advance the shutter wind lever and press the shutter release button, to see if the camera exhibits this problem (battery required, see below). It will be pretty obvious from the noise if the camera has shutter squeal.

I know for certain the AE-1 Program and am pretty sure the original AE-1 are "battery dependent". In other words, they will not function without a battery installed. This is due to the micro-processor controlled shutter. That makes for more accurate shutter speeds, but no longer has fully mechanical "clock work" that can operate without a battery. As a result, to test the camera for shutter squeal will require purchasing a battery, if you don't already have one. The good news is that the AE-1 models doesn't use the no-longer-available mercury cells that many other SLRs of that time used. Both AE-1 use commonly available six volt 4SR44 (silver oxide) or 4LR44 (lithium) batteries. It also an use a single PX28A (alkaline) battery. Alternatively, they also can be powered by a stack of four of the smaller, 1.5 volt SR44 or LR44 batteries (which are a little more difficult to install). There are a couple other batteries that also can be used, but those are the most commonly found. If you don't have one, I recommend you get a battery and install it in the camera to test it for function. It's not a big cost and buyers will appreciate that the camera has passed basic tests. (Remove the battery when done testing.)

To install the battery requires you first remove the grip (assuming it's still on the camera.... many were removed and lost). It's held in place by a simple screw that has an oversize slot so a coin can be used to loosen it. With the grip off the camera, the little door covering the battery compartment can be accessed. It has a little latch. Gently press that to release and open the door (it's made of plastic, so handle with some care). Note: Last time I looked, replacements were available for both the grip and the little door covering the battery compartment... but if the originals are still in place and good, they are probably better quality than the "clones" now being made.

Shutter squeal actually isn't a big deal, but it devalues the camera to a lot of buyers. It's possible to fix it with a tiny drop of light oil placed in just the right place ("sewing machine" oil works fine). However, it would be better if the camera were given a proper "CLA" or "clean, lube and adjust", which a 30+ year old camera probably needs anyway. There's also good chance the camera needs new light seals installed. Those wear out or get brittle and crumble from age. Having a CLA and new seals installed will likely cost around $150 or more. I'm not suggesting you have this work done, though, because you won't recoup your money. A fully tuned up and properly working AE-1 just isn't going to sell for enough to recover what you'd spend. Even in top working condition, they are unlikely to bring significantly more unless the camera is fitted with a high end lens.

If you have a manual with the camera, great! If not and you want one, it can be downloaded from https://www.butkus.org/chinon/canon.htm (different manual, depending upon whether it's the original AE-1 or the AE-1 Program). Manuals are free there, but donations are appreciated.

Unfortunately, the lenses and flash with the camera sound as if they are all "consumer grade" third party and nothing special, which usually sell pretty cheap on the used market.... particularly in the old FL/FD mount that isn't compatible with modern Canon EOS/EF mount (can be adapted for use on the Canon mirrorless). I wouldn't expect to get more than $10 or $15 apiece them. If you search eBay for "sold" AE-1 you will find most with more favorable selling prices are fitted with Canon 50mm FD"n" f/1.4 or f/1.8 lenses, which are more valuable than third party lenses.
The problem with AE-1 is that there were literally... (show quote)


Thank you, Alan.
An AE-1 Program and two Soligar zoom lenses was the first camera I bought. Eventually I added a motor drive, a 2x converter, flash, and a few filters. I figured they would be of little selling value. But I did enjoy all the information, especially the information on batteries, seals, and lube.
Thanks again.

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Mar 19, 2019 08:29:06   #
RLSeipleSr Loc: North of Boston
 
dub3 wrote:
... Would be great addition to Canon collection...


The AE-1P would be great if you want to get (back) into 35mm film cameras ... I bought one a couple of years ago ... had it CLAd, got a couple more lens, added a Canon winder ... and, use it often ... !

You won't make a great deal of money selling it but you could get a great deal of enjoyment using it.

Bob S

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Mar 19, 2019 09:38:15   #
kuner Loc: Tustin, CA
 
I will offer you $75.00 plus shipping or $100.00 including shipping, My e-mail is kunerc21@aol.com my name Tom Kunz 714-883-1209.

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Mar 19, 2019 10:59:38   #
Jodevoy
 
Amfoto1: Thank you for posting this very informative reply. I sold an AE-1Program camera, lenses and miscellaneous accessories to KEH about 2 years ago. I think I received around $65 total. Always wondered if I should have kept any of the lenses for my (then) new T7i, your post lets me know I did the right thing. It’s funny, we always think our gear is worth much more than it really is on re-sale. I was glad to have cleared some space to put my new gear. Thanks again for all your information. I found it very interesting!

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Mar 19, 2019 11:46:26   #
RonW42
 
To answer your question, and being a 35mm camera collector, Canon AE-1 in Excellent condition goes for $125-$180 without any lens.
Ron W

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Mar 19, 2019 14:27:17   #
nadelewitz Loc: Ithaca NY
 
As was said, look at SOLD prices on eBay for the body alone. The flash and lenses you have don't have much if any value.

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Mar 20, 2019 01:38:22   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
RLSeipleSr wrote:
The AE-1P would be great if you want to get (back) into 35mm film cameras ... I bought one a couple of years ago ... had it CLAd, got a couple more lens, added a Canon winder ... and, use it often ... !

You won't make a great deal of money selling it but you could get a great deal of enjoyment using it.

Bob S


I agree with this assessment. I have four ae-1p. I use two. They were popular for a reason, the photos are beautiful. Point and shoot simplicity.
About fifty dollars for film and processing per roll.You get 4x6 prints and a CD. And maybe your negatives. Slides are especially clear.
I use Mike's Camera in Boulder for processing. Buy 36 shot rolls. Development cost is per roll, so save $ that way.
If you keep this and anyone else wants one, I would let one or two go for a fair price, batteries, lenses, winders, databacks and more.
RSVP personal.
This is again, a fine piece of equipment. "A real camera" a lady called mine.
Bill

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