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Mar 14, 2019 23:16:15   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
scphoto wrote:
Hi Polonis - Any updates on the out of focus issue? Have you received the camera yet?


Yes, I received the camera 2 days ago. I looked thru the settings last evening. Everything looks good. I took two pictures inside with the flash and they are not the sharpest but okay. Hopefully I will get out with it in the next few days and find the problem. It seems that close ups are reasonably sharp and the ones far away like a 100 yds., are out of focus. I thinking possibility it's the lens. I will post what I find out.

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May 7, 2019 16:28:52   #
cowboydid2 Loc: The highways and byways of America
 
It is now May 7th, and having invested this much time reading every post in this thread, am really curious as to the outcome. Camera, lens, or user error?

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May 7, 2019 17:34:20   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Well, I took the camera out with two different lenses. The stock lens an 18-140mm and the lens in question a 75-300mm. The 18-140 gave better results. The pictures were considerably better with both lenses than the problem photos. However they were not as sharp as my Sony A77MII with equivalent lenses. I think that the problem was a combination of all three. The Camera, Lens and user error. Attached are 2 of the best pictures with the 77-300mm that was used to take the bad ones and 1 with the 18-140mm. I wanted to do further testing however she needed the camera. I will try again later this year when I get the camera again.

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May 7, 2019 20:01:26   #
Grahame Loc: Fiji
 
polonois wrote:
Well, I took the camera out with two different lenses. The stock lens an 18-140mm and the lens in question a 75-300mm. The 18-140 gave better results. The pictures were considerably better with both lenses than the problem photos. However they were not as sharp as my Sony A77MII with equivalent lenses. I think that the problem was a combination of all three. The Camera, Lens and user error. Attached are 2 of the best pictures with the 77-300mm that was used to take the bad ones and 1 with the 18-140mm. I wanted to do further testing however she needed the camera. I will try again later this year when I get the camera again.
Well, I took the camera out with two different len... (show quote)


I would recommend that if you are assessing the 'sharpness' of a lens that you do it at base ISO of the camera.

Looking at the images we do not really know the following,

a) what affect 'noise' has had on apparent sharpness
b) where your focus point was so that we know where the 'sharpest' plane should be

For 'tests' choose subjects/scenes where there are known good sharp edges in the focus depth in front and to the rear of the focus plane.

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May 9, 2019 18:41:24   #
ozmerelda Loc: Osprey, FL
 
Perhaps a call to Nikon technical support would help.

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May 11, 2019 11:14:16   #
joncogar Loc: WV
 
I agree focus is a issue on the photos. Also metering allowed the light background to over ride the sensor causing the turkeys to be dark. Watch this video. It will explain the 7200 auto focus system and suggest how to set the focus for different scenes.
https://youtu.be/JbwvBe3Zxr4

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May 13, 2019 22:45:48   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
polonois wrote:
Thank you I will check that this week. I'm not familiar with the Nikon settings as I shoot all Sony.


There is a menu item to set release priority. It needs to be set to focus. Then it will not fire when out of focus.

She should use AF-S and wait for the green focus box before releasing.

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May 13, 2019 23:10:09   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
cjc2 wrote:
There is NO such thing as Center Weighted or Spot focusing. Those are METERING methods and the third, and the one I use the most, is Matrix Metering.


Center weighted is a metering choice.

But spot focus is a choice. The other focus choices enable the camera to choose from a specified number of potential focus points or an average distance betwen them. But a lens can only focus on one distance.

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May 14, 2019 10:29:23   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
joncogar wrote:
I agree focus is a issue on the photos. Also metering allowed the light background to over ride the sensor causing the turkeys to be dark. Watch this video. It will explain the 7200 auto focus system and suggest how to set the focus for different scenes.
https://youtu.be/JbwvBe3Zxr4


Thank you, The link is very informative. I forwarded it to my daughter. She told me the other day she is disgusted with the D7200 and put it back in the box. She is going to use her D90 instead. I am going to see if she will drop it off with me again so I can hopefully find her problem.

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May 14, 2019 15:23:37   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
cjc2 wrote:
There is NO such thing as Center Weighted or Spot focusing. Those are METERING methods and the third, and the one I use the most, is Matrix Metering.


I can't say about Nikon but my Canon 7d spot focuses and spot meters

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May 14, 2019 15:42:07   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
polonois wrote:
Well, I took the camera out with two different lenses. The stock lens an 18-140mm and the lens in question a 75-300mm. The 18-140 gave better results. The pictures were considerably better with both lenses than the problem photos. However they were not as sharp as my Sony A77MII with equivalent lenses. I think that the problem was a combination of all three. The Camera, Lens and user error. Attached are 2 of the best pictures with the 77-300mm that was used to take the bad ones and 1 with the 18-140mm. I wanted to do further testing however she needed the camera. I will try again later this year when I get the camera again.
Well, I took the camera out with two different len... (show quote)


Focus on the white duck is good, but DOF on it and others seems shallow. Using at least f8?

Are you using AF-S with single point focus, and assuring you have green focus point before release? Have you set release to focus priority?

Might want to try some shots in Auto to see how it does.

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May 14, 2019 15:45:12   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
boberic wrote:
I can't say about Nikon but my Canon 7d spot focuses and spot meters


Apparantly a few Canons do. But for most the spot metering does not follow the focus point: center only. It differs from center weighted in that it uses a spot in the center vs. average around the center.

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May 24, 2019 13:35:57   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
My question is has she used her D90 with the 2 lenses, previously mentioned? What are her results? If she is getting pictures in focus with the D90 it might be she has a bad D7200 camera. Since it is so new return it to get it fixed or replaced.

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May 24, 2019 16:11:25   #
polonois Loc: Lancaster County,PA.
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
My question is has she used her D90 with the 2 lenses, previously mentioned? What are her results? If she is getting pictures in focus with the D90 it might be she has a bad D7200 camera. Since it is so new return it to get it fixed or replaced.


She has a D80 and a D90 and takes excellent photos with both lenses. When she uses them on the 7200 it's hard to get a picture anywhere as good as with the D90 regardless of the mode or settings. I get better results with the 7200 than she does however only the close ups seem to be in fairly sharp focus. See the close ups below.


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Jun 11, 2019 18:25:42   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
Good answer!

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