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Mar 8, 2019 18:53:34   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
I currently own, and really like, my Sony a6000 and my Sony Nex7. I am thinking of moving to one of the full frame versions, either the a7 or a7s (36k megapixel).
I will keep the other cameras, at least for now.
I do have one FE lens, 28-70 and a couple of Canon F lenses that I use with a Fotodiox pro converter.
I focus on landscape photography.
Any hogs out there with experience with either the a7 or a7r? thanks

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Mar 8, 2019 19:28:00   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Keep in mind the high resolution camera produces large to huge RAW files. Make sure you have the diskspace and memory on your computer to efficiently process these files. I like my a7II, bought used.

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Mar 8, 2019 19:39:40   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Keep in mind the high resolution camera produces large to huge RAW files. Make sure you have the diskspace and memory on your computer to efficiently process these files. I like my a7II, bought used.


Thanks for the reminder, I have worked on large raw files, so my computer power is okay.

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Mar 8, 2019 20:15:33   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Bike guy wrote:
I currently own, and really like, my Sony a6000 and my Sony Nex7. I am thinking of moving to one of the full frame versions, either the a7 or a7s (36k megapixel).
I will keep the other cameras, at least for now.
I do have one FE lens, 28-70 and a couple of Canon F lenses that I use with a Fotodiox pro converter.
I focus on landscape photography.
Any hogs out there with experience with either the a7 or a7r? thanks


I have the A6000 and the A7Rii. I mostly use the Sony E 18-105 G OSS on the A6000 and the FE 24-105 G OSS on the A7Rii. The FF combo is superb with noticeably better IQ, but I still use the A6000 a lot - especially for travel and walking around. I think most of the IQ improvement comes fom the newer FE lenses rather than the body. I would suggest trying a couple of better FE lenses before you step up to a FF body. The Zeiss Batis 2.8/18 would be a great landscape choice for your A6000. If the sticker price shocks you, forget about going FF. There is no point in going to any of the A7's unless you can afford the lenses. If you do decide to take the leap, be sure to go to at least the second generation (ii) version to get IBIS.

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Mar 8, 2019 20:18:52   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Bike guy wrote:
I currently own, and really like, my Sony a6000 and my Sony Nex7. I am thinking of moving to one of the full frame versions, either the a7 or a7s (36k megapixel).
I will keep the other cameras, at least for now.
I do have one FE lens, 28-70 and a couple of Canon F lenses that I use with a Fotodiox pro converter.
I focus on landscape photography.
Any hogs out there with experience with either the a7 or a7r? thanks


I know a friend who owns a Sony a6000 crop sensor mirrorless camera. It's a great compact camera. Presently, he only has the kit lenses that came with the camera. The 16-50mm and the 55-210mm. He wants to upgrade to the Sony a6500, But has mentioned maybe going to full frame. He mentioned that he is considering a used Sony a7 series full frame. But is reluctant, because New Sony FE lenses are not inexpensive. However, I get occasional alerts, from Sigma, on new lenses. Sigma is now manufacturing full frame E-mount lenses. I haven't compared prices to Sony's line of FE lenses. But, my guess is that they cost less. So. If you decide on purchasing a Sony a7 series camera. Now, you have Sigma lenses to choose from. You will need ample storage on your memory card and computer, shooting in RAW. As mentioned in a previous thread. Good luck.

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Mar 8, 2019 21:19:00   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
mas24 wrote:
I know a friend who owns a Sony a6000 crop sensor mirrorless camera. It's a great compact camera. Presently, he only has the kit lenses that came with the camera. The 16-50mm and the 55-210mm. He wants to upgrade to the Sony a6500, But has mentioned maybe going to full frame. He mentioned that he is considering a used Sony a7 series full frame. But is reluctant, because New Sony FE lenses are not inexpensive. However, I get occasional alerts, from Sigma, on new lenses. Sigma is now manufacturing full frame E-mount lenses. I haven't compared prices to Sony's line of FE lenses. But, my guess is that they cost less. So. If you decide on purchasing a Sony a7 series camera. Now, you have Sigma lenses to choose from. You will need ample storage on your memory card and computer, shooting in RAW. As mentioned in a previous thread. Good luck.
I know a friend who owns a Sony a6000 crop sensor ... (show quote)


Thanks
I do have some Sigma lenses for my 6000 and like them,

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Mar 8, 2019 21:31:05   #
UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT
 
I love my Sony a7riii. I use it with the 24 - 70 lens the most, but the 100 - 400 lens is also excellent.

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Mar 9, 2019 00:02:26   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
UTMike wrote:
I love my Sony a7riii. I use it with the 24 - 70 lens the most, but the 100 - 400 lens is also excellent.


That's a great camera. It's beyond my budget though. $2800. And the best thing about your camera, is that it has the new improved battery. Same as the a9. Many owners of the predecessors, had to always carry an extra charged battery. Not that you still should not, with the newer battery?

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Mar 9, 2019 08:26:31   #
wireloose
 
I went from the a6000 to the a6500 for the ibis and the focusing system. Added an A7R- I think I paid $650 for it- liked the images and resolution but the shutter is incredibly noisy. Traded up to The A7Rii for an extra $400 or so, all on eBay, and that is my main walkabout camera now, usually with either the 24-105 G or the 24-240. As others have observed though its the lenses that determine the weight, so if I want a smaller travel kit its back to the 6500 and a couple of the older primes. The A7Rii sensor is amazing, and buying used I think the camera is a steal. Like you I have some Canon glass and the Sigma adapter works well with those and the newer Sonys (not the 6000), AF a bit slower than Native e-mount but very usable outside of that.

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Mar 9, 2019 08:43:21   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
I also have the A7111 and the A6500. I have the 16-70 f4 on the 6500 and the 24-105 on the A7111. I also have the Sony 100-400 with the 1.4 teleconverter for wildlife. This is the combo I will be taking to Kenya in the summer.
I am a long time Nikon user and have 2 Nikons with lenses. I do find I am using my Sony's more and more. Love the quick focus, eye focus and the in camera stabilization.

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Mar 9, 2019 09:23:24   #
Bike guy Loc: Atlanta
 
Appreciate all the excellent responses. After having done more research, the IBIS feature is a necessity for me due to arthritis shake, etc. And 36megapx isn't that important. Plus the A7Rii is more than I want to pay.
I will look for anA7ii which along with my a6000 igives me a good pair of cameras.

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Mar 9, 2019 10:15:32   #
rwoodvira
 
I made the switch from Canon to a Sony full frame just after Christmas - big learning curve. I got a deal on Greentoe on the A7Riii and like it. As was pointed out with the r series it creates big files. The price difference at the time because of the demand for the a7ii was $400. That was a no-brainer for my needs. I have the 24-105 and 50 1.8 and am about to get the 70-300. That will be it for this year unless I have a death wish from my wife.

You do have the opportunity to move to APS-C which I use when I'm doing family parties, etc.. When I do birds, landscape, etc. I use the full frame - I need the size there. You go from 42.5 to 18 with the Riii if you move down to APS-C.

You can do the same with the a7iii, but the move is to 12 which I thought, rightly or wrongly, wasn't enough.

Another caution is that the lenses for full frame tend to be a tad expensive. The plus is they seem so far to be really good. Good luck on your quest.

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Mar 9, 2019 11:00:09   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I have two A7Rm2. I love this camera. Since the A7Riii has been on the market the price of the A7Rm2 has been reduced. You should be able to get one for around $2000 now.

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Mar 9, 2019 11:33:02   #
flightdog
 
Hi, I was kind of in your spot too, wanton no to try FF photography. However with family a new camera wasn’t where I wanted to spend my money.

I have a Sony NEX 7 that I’m happy with, it’s quirky for sure , however a unique and interesting camera.

I opted for a used Canon 5D that I bought on eBay. Very happy with this choice. I’ve since upgraded to a 5Dii that I purchased from MBP.com and am very happy with this upgrade (2x the camera of the 5D).

I have 2 lenses that I bought used an EF 300 Lf4.0 is and an EF 200 f2.0. I also purchased new an EF 50 f1.8, all at very reasonable prices from MBP and B&H.

My more portable set up is NEX 7 with a Sigma 30 f1.4.

Canon 5Dii and tele get used for my sons baseball games and some hiking etc. my NEX7 goes with me in the cockpit of my 777 just in case I see something I want to capture. IQ suffers a bit due to shooting through windscreen but...good enough for some unique perspective!

Point is, used equipment is plenty good, affordable and usually more than enough for my attempts at the art of photography.

Good luck and I can recommend mob.com for buying and selling, they are always upfront and quick.

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Mar 9, 2019 11:40:18   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
repleo wrote:
I have the A6000 and the A7Rii. I mostly use the Sony E 18-105 G OSS on the A6000 and the FE 24-105 G OSS on the A7Rii. The FF combo is superb with noticeably better IQ, but I still use the A6000 a lot - especially for travel and walking around. I think most of the IQ improvement comes fom the newer FE lenses rather than the body. I would suggest trying a couple of better FE lenses before you step up to a FF body. The Zeiss Batis 2.8/18 would be a great landscape choice for your A6000. If the sticker price shocks you, forget about going FF. There is no point in going to any of the A7's unless you can afford the lenses. If you do decide to take the leap, be sure to go to at least the second generation (ii) version to get IBIS.
I have the A6000 and the A7Rii. I mostly use the ... (show quote)


Leo - ALL Sony cameras employ some form of IBIS. But, second generation a7 series (plus the a9) and the a6500 (and a99 II) all utilize 5-axis stabilization. I think this is what you meant. First generation a7 series do not have that, though - you're right, there. But all 2nd and 3rd generation FF a-series sport it.

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