Third shoot with this model (Page 2): Follow up Not to sound harsh before, but Here's how I had envisioned this photo shoot.. the model should NOT had purple hair.. she should have...

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Follow up

Not to sound harsh before, but Here's how I had envisioned this photo shoot.. the model should NOT had purple hair.. she should have worn a frilly dress that flows as she walks. then ask her to walk down the bridge (away from the camera) looking over her shoulder, maybe even laughing at you. Maybe even have her hop, skip jump a few times as if she's excited that it's snowing.. common people, let's be a bit more creative..

Shutterbug57

Bokehen wrote:

Follow up

Not to sound harsh before, but Here's how I had envisioned this photo shoot.. the model should NOT had purple hair.. she should have worn a frilly dress that flows as she walks. then ask her to walk down the bridge (away from the camera) looking over her shoulder, maybe even laughing at you. Maybe even have her hop, skip jump a few times as if she's excited that it's snowing.. common people, let's be a bit more creative..

It’s not every day you get to shoot a goth with purple hair.

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Shutterbug57 wrote:

It’s not every day you get to shoot a
goth with purple hair.

... in the falling snow !

They melt when wet, don't they ?

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Stephan G

out4life2016 wrote:

This is the third shoot I have done with this youn... (show quote)

Have you sat down with her and asked if there are examples of the shots in magazines that appeal to her? Or presented to her your ideas from magazines examples? How about what her self-image may be? Is she trying to be Goth? You both need to get an idea of the expectations for the shoot.

There are a lot of videos available that present how to work with models and the variety of poses that work. You might want to sit with her and discuss what you are looking at.

Use the opportunity to cooperate with each other to make the shots.

Question. Did she also pick the location? I would suggest shooting locations without models so that you can concentrate on the technical aspects needed for the spots. When you use a model, you can concentrate on the model more in the spots.

The best solution is to keep talking with the model while you are shooting. You both are learning.

davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel

out4life2016 wrote:

This is the third shoot I have done with this youn... (show quote)

Your model was far more relaxed in your previous shoot. She appears to be more distant and remote.

Wanda Krack Loc: Tennessee, USA

I agree with Jerry, I like the snow scenes for portraits and you don't see them often. The main problem I see is the fact that she is in the center of most of the images, and due to her facial landscape, her eyes are not visible in some of the shots. You got a lot of good advice here about various things, but everyone reacts different, and that's ok. If the client is pleased, you have been successful.

Sharona Loc: Alpharetta, Georgia

Suggestion on fashion as I am not a portrait photographer. A long sleeve, soft or even furry, not too oversized sweater or jacket would look nice in the snow along with a smile. If she prefers an edgy look than a leather or fabric coat, not bulky. Some smoothing of the skin as well would improve the image.

pappleg

A major key to portraiture is the eyes, make sure your primary focus is there. You need either supplemental lighting (softened flash) or, at least, a reflector to get some light into those eyes producing a "catchlight" meaning a specular reflection of a lightsource in the eye. As others have noted your model has little or no animation in her facial expressions-every image is closed mouthed which makes for rather flat/boring subjects. Pat

charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA

there have been some cruel responses to your post...attacking your model is uncalled for...suggesting that she smile and try to relax are great suggestions...if she/you are going for the morose look she still needs to relax...engage with her...have her move into the positions not just pose...as someone mentioned use bursts to take the photo...with her moving a little...i think i would prefer the last 2 shots if you were away from the wall more...she needs a little arch in her back to not appear so stiff...I think that the sitting shot in this circumstance is not so good...maybe have her head tilt down some to aid in the morose look...and of course fill flash would have helped the shot a lot...

the snow is cool or should i say cold...

Keep practicing and it will come together for you...and the model

photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State

Whatcom Falls Park?

Murray Loc: New Westminster

I hope you bought her a hot coffee😀

George Kravis

Yes all that and more. What's worse, she needs better facial illumination; nothing worse than dark eye sockets, eyes being an important consideration in portraiture!

out4life2016 Loc: Bellingham, Washington

photogeneralist wrote:

Whatcom Falls Park?

Yes this was Whatcom Falls Park.

out4life2016 Loc: Bellingham, Washington

George Kravis wrote:

Yes all that and more. What's worse, she needs better facial illumination; nothing worse than dark eye sockets, eyes being an important consideration in portraiture!

I agree the speedlight would have help a lot in this shoot. Unfortantly she was not agreeing and instead of continueing an argument I went ahead and left it turned off. It really wasn't a good day for the two of us to work together, I just cant seem to get her to relax or listen to me about clothing. She wants to portray this Goth type tough girl and unfortantly doesn't have the skills for it. Im trying to find better subjects to use and thankfully as of next month will be moving to a new location. The only good thing is it gives me practice with the camera ands working with people.

out4life2016 Loc: Bellingham, Washington

Murray wrote:

I hope you bought her a hot coffee😀

Yes, Hot coffee and lunch is normally provided.