Is the Earth Flat? (Page 6): and as every differential equations student knows, 2+2=5, for very large values of "2"...

I Derfdog

and as every differential equations student knows, 2+2=5, for very large values of "2"

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

exakta56 wrote:

The flat earth people VOTE therein lies the problem. You say delusional? You must include Donny , then.

Spot on ....👍

Stan

MilRic

Give each a shovel, tell them you'll meet them on the other side.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

jerryc41 wrote:

So, if you want your calculator to say that 1 + 1 = 3, modify your calculator.

I'm pretty sure that's how some scientists determined that we are in global warming. Just keep experimenting until 1 out of thousands shows results they want you to see.

rhadams824 Loc: Arkansas

I Derfdog wrote:

and as every differential equations student knows, 2+2=5, for very large values of "2"

Lets' not restrict our discussion just to people that believe in that the earth is flat.
How about Rumpology, Psychic Surgery, Vampires, Witches, Pyramid Power, Attachment Therapy, Melanin Theory,
Body Earthing, Urine Therapy, Memetics, Dowsing, ANCIENT ALIENS, UFOS ARE VISITING EARTH TODAY,
HOLOCAUST DENIAL, MORPHIC RESONANCE AND ESP, JFK CONSPIRACY THEORIES, 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES, THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING (AGAIN) (and they know when), playing the lottery is a good financial plan, and on and on with go.

But I really hope we don't go anywhere near any of these.

I really enjoy your photography post and continue to learn. I thank you for that.

Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas

Ricardo, there were no clocks or calendars in the beginning, to God a day was like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day. Adam and Eve, I believe Adam was mankind and Eve was womankind, not two
people, but many. How else would Cane take off to another land (Nod) and there find himself a wife. Evolution has nothing to do with it.

ricardo7 wrote:

Where, in all the science of evolution, does it support the creation of
Earth in 6 days or the myth of Adam and Eve?

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Earnest Botello wrote:

Ricardo, there were no clocks or calendars in the beginning, to God a day was like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day.

Except that the verse you are quoting has nothing to do with long ages or millions of years or gaps in the Genesis account. It's ONLY talking about God being patient to gather His elect.

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Adam and Eve, I believe Adam was mankind and Eve was womankind, not two people, but many.

Then you'd be wrong and need to repent of your rebellion.

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How else would Cane take off to another land (Nod) and there find himself a wife. Evolution has nothing to do with it.

Cain married a close relative; sister or otherwise.

This is also just as bad as total unbelief, the willingness to pick and choose what you'll believe or not and to modify what God has said to suit your self.

exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire

It is much easier to rely on the concept of some supernatural being who does all the things that we take for truth. However, despite the fact that no one knows what in hell this cosmos is all about, some choose to take a more cause and effect approach. Not as much drama for sure. No wrath, no inexplicable actions which leave the faithful puzzled... why me? sort of thing. The mysteries of nature are immense and are slowly being understood..that seems to be plenty for many. And it is fact, as immutable as we will ever know. Isn't that enough?

SteveR Loc: Michigan

jerryc41 wrote:

I watched a documentary on Netflix last night - "Beyond the Curve." It was about the growing popularity of the flat earth movement. It was disappointing. I expected members to offer their "proof." The only thing they did in terms of proof was saying something vague about planes flying in the southern hemisphere and being able to see buildings in the distance. Actually, I'm surprised they used the term "hemisphere."

They did put a lot of emphasis on two scientific experiments, one using a $20,000 gyroscope and the other using lasers over a distance of several miles. These two experiments were going to prove that the earth was flat. The gyro experiment didn't turn out the way they wanted, so they tried it two more times in different ways. Now they are planning to try something else with the gyroscope. It was the same with the laser experiment. When they didn't get the result they wanted, they said they would have to try it a different way. So, if you want your calculator to say that 1 + 1 = 3, modify your calculator.

What's scary about this group is that they reject facts. As more people accept the idea that the earth is flat, there will be more people willing to reject facts and believe conspiracy theories. Supposedly, NASA and all the governments of the world are involved in a conspiracy to maintain the idea of an earth shaped like a ball. This great lie has been maintained for hundreds of years. A reporter asked their "king" why they couldn't just travel to the edge of the world. He said they are getting funding to do just that.

Their king said that doing a search on Google used to bring up 50,000 items. Now, you get 90 million. Stupidity, gullibility, and rejection of facts are dangerous characteristics of a population. For example, we didn't really land on the moon, lizard people are ruling us, the government is holding aliens at Area 51, there is a secret alien base on the dark side of the moon, chemtrails are poisoning us, the shooting at the Sandy Hook school never happened.

I watched a documentary on Netflix last night - &q... (show quote)

I have an idea that the Flat Earth Society is composed of a bunch of individuals having a good time at the expense of the obvious.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

exakta56 wrote:

It is much easier to rely on the concept of some s... (show quote)

Not if you are a rational thinker it's not.

For example, for a person's worldview to hold any credibility it's got to answer the most basic questions there are; our purpose, origins, the basic mechanics of our universe, the origin of those basics, basic morality, etc. It's not just a "good to know" it's recognized as necessary (unless you've never taken a basic philosophy course then maybe you've never thought about it or cared)

The Christian worldview is the only one that can answer all of that in a logical fashion. Just saying "well, I'm fine with my life and everything works so I don't care" is one way to deal with it but as adults, that's not good enough. We are expected to have good reasons for the beliefs we have about reality.

For example: We are all using the laws of logic to communicate here on this thread. We'd all agree on that.

One prominent law is the law of non-contradiction which is: "A cannot be A and non-A at the same time and in the same sense." That's just basic logic.

Then a person's worldview must account for that basic fundamental thing we all use.

Why should it exist?

What is the origin of this law?

What are the properties of this law?

Simple stuff.

The Christian can answer these questions just fine. (even if folks don't agree, that's beside the point, the Christian is answering these questions in a rational, logical way using good argumentation.)

The laws of logic exist because they reflect the mind of God who is infinitely rational and logical. Their origin is with Him, they reflect His thinking.

What are the properties of these laws?

They are immaterial, transcendent, and universal in nature. That is, they aren't made of matter, they have always existed, and they are in force no matter where you go in the universe.

The atheist (or any brand of non-believer) cannot give an account for them, (not a rational one anyway) and thus their worldview is to be discarded as flawed.

Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas

Bob, I had great respect for you, until your responses to my post, you really believe your response are facts, and every body else is wrong, you are very narrow minded in your beliefs my friend, lighten up.

rpavich wrote:

Cain married a close relative; sister or otherwise.

This is also just as bad as total unbelief, the willingness to pick and choose what you'll believe or not and to modify what God has said to suit your self.

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Earnest Botello wrote:

Bob, I had great respect for you, until your responses to my post, you really believe your response are facts, and every body else is wrong, you are very narrow minded in your beliefs my friend, lighten up.

Don't you believe you are correct in what you think? Of course. If not then you wouldn't be a rational thinker (believing something you know is false)

If you were not narrow in your thinking you wouldn't have responded to me either...you'd assume that my conclusion was just as valid as yours...right?

I'm sorry if you didn't like it...that's too bad but if there is truth (and I think that there is) then we don't get to "make it up as we go along" and still call ourselves Christian.

A Christian believes what God has said and he didn't say "oh...Adam and Eve?...they are just fictional representations of a whole race..."

So while I'm sorry that you disbelieve his word, I'm not sorry for correcting you. Truth, by definition, is narrow.

1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA

So, you believe that the "flat earth society" is earnest in that postulation and that the whole thing in not "tongue in cheek"?

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

Ahhh, flat earth. First there was Edwin A. Roberts “Flatland” published in 1884 said to be a classic of popular mathematics. Now we have Flatterland by Ian Stewart (2001) subtitled “like flatland, only more so.” Dust jscket says it is the story of a heroines voyage through the Mathiverse.

1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA

Balboa wrote:

Needless to say easy to guess their political affiliation...reality is just a nuisance,

No, I wouldn't guess that ALL the leftists think that way.