Not my photo but...
Not my photo but...
similar of shots of Asian girl in Native American outfit. liked the photo and submit it few ideas in posing with props.
I'm really torn between the aesthetics of using a head dress as a prop, and the "appropriation" of something that has spiritual meaning for a different culture. Except for four years in the service, I have lived my entire life in the southwest. I had two models who met with my wife and me to discuss costumes. One girl was a very dark Anglo with black hair, and the other was half Apache. We settled on leather vest and loin cloth, with turquoise accessories but drew the line at anything specifically tribal or religious. I have seen some striking photos with the head dress on non-Indians, but have always had an uncomfortable feeling about it. It's not unlike the sensation I felt after returning from Southeast Asia, seeing people who obviously had not served wearing uniform parts with full insignia. This is way different than the girl with the prom dress, (or the model in a loin cloth).
It's still a great photo, though.
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
I am actually not convinced that the young lady IS Asian. Harry, are you positive she is?
There was a series of photo posted in this group within the last week that were of an Asian girl ib some native American attire. I posed this to show a different , I thought, very nice pose for people to consider. The head dress issue is well above my pay grade and I'm sure NO DISRESPECT was intended.
Check out "Desert Grace" from earlier this week.
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
Yes, Harry, I saw those, and that model was definitely Asian. It sounded to me like you were saying the girl in your posted photo was Asian, but maybe you were referring to the Desert Grace thread.
Your posted photo looks like a shot of a lovely Indian maiden who may have every right to wear the headdress.
while I concur that this is an outstanding photograph I do question the nationality of the model. In any case she is very lovely.
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
Not my photo but...
similar of shots of Asian girl in Native American outfit. liked the photo and submit it few ideas in posing with props.
The model and the headdress are both beautiful. I don't give a damn whether the model is Apache or Sioux or Jewish...she is beautiful. She complements the headdress (which looks authentic to me) and vice versa.
We need to be less concerned about offending the snowflakes and more concerned about freedom of expression. The photographer should be especially concerned about this.
Now I'll stop my rant.
It's a great photo, Harry.... to heck with the uber PC wackos put there.
Great photo. Regarding ethnicity: when we were in Lhasa, Tibet I realized that a lot of the Tibetans looked like they could be Navajo or some other US southwestern group. Turns out that DNA testing has discovered that our Natives are likely derived from western Asia. It's not a stretch to conclude one group migrated to Tibet and another came all the way to America.
Naptown Gaijin wrote:
The model and the headdress are both beautiful. I don't give a damn whether the model is Apache or Sioux or Jewish...she is beautiful. She complements the headdress (which looks authentic to me) and vice versa.
We need to be less concerned about offending the snowflakes and more concerned about freedom of expression. The photographer should be especially concerned about this.
Now I'll stop my rant.
It's a great photo, Harry.... to heck with the uber PC wackos put there.
I'm sorry if my post came off as a rant. I am probably one of the least PC people here. My sensitivity probably comes from my wife, who was previously married to a Mescalaro Apache, and living in Arizona for about 60 years. Over the years of casually studying Native history, I can easily see her points.
buckwheat wrote:
I'm really torn between the aesthetics of using a head dress as a prop, and the "appropriation" of something that has spiritual meaning for a different culture. Except for four years in the service, I have lived my entire life in the southwest. I had two models who met with my wife and me to discuss costumes. One girl was a very dark Anglo with black hair, and the other was half Apache. We settled on leather vest and loin cloth, with turquoise accessories but drew the line at anything specifically tribal or religious. I have seen some striking photos with the head dress on non-Indians, but have always had an uncomfortable feeling about it. It's not unlike the sensation I felt after returning from Southeast Asia, seeing people who obviously had not served wearing uniform parts with full insignia. This is way different than the girl with the prom dress, (or the model in a loin cloth).
It's still a great photo, though.
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Very nice image.
Cultural appropriation is always a touchy subject made even more difficult because there is a sliding scale of outrage within all of these communities whether they be Native American, Pacific Islander, etc. Some members love the recognition and forgive misappropriation and others stay perpetually offended. Some of this cultural push-back is recent. I lived in both Texas and Colorado as a youngster and we traveled all over the American west on vacations. Back in the 60s, you could by all kinds of Native American headdresses and garments in shops on tribal land, stuff that wasn't made in China. Obviously to some tribes back then having Anglos wear their stuff wasn't a big deal.
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