Would you consider both these Pics to be photographs?
Feb 22, 2019 08:48:09 #
Well, #1 is a photograph, #2 is an ArtOgraph. an interpretation of the #1 photograph. I do this same thing in various forms with some of my Images.
Don
Don
Feb 22, 2019 09:41:54 #
ricardo7 wrote:
Yes, but neither very good.
I don't know if that was necessary. I don't enjoy the first image, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not very good.
The second image I didn't enjoy at first, but as I continued to look at it, the more I liked it...especially considering that it came from an original image that wasn't all that inspiring, to begin with.
Feb 22, 2019 09:58:52 #
coyotecall
Loc: New Mexico
I've run into this problem when our local VA runs a photo contest once a year. I used to finish in the top 3, even won a "First" one year, but then Photoshop experts began to enter and I could no longer compete, not just because I was not very adept at PS, but also because I preferred not to "enhance" much of my stuff. Perhaps there should be a category for enhanced, but where do you draw the line? Some percent of enhancement perhaps? I don't know. It's too bad that a line cannot be drawn because those of us who choose photos that are closer to "natural" lose out. We can shoot, and work with a photo to a small degree, as in darken a sky, or bring up a color, and yet we are no competition to a judge who is blown away by complex elaborations.
Frankly, I finally gave up competing and just shoot and sell to those who are as simple-minded as I am. By the way, I HAVE done "elaborations" via Photomatix Pro and liked them, but I haven't made it a habit. ....
Frankly, I finally gave up competing and just shoot and sell to those who are as simple-minded as I am. By the way, I HAVE done "elaborations" via Photomatix Pro and liked them, but I haven't made it a habit. ....
Linda From Maine wrote:
You could use the "realistic" benchmark,... (show quote)
Feb 22, 2019 14:31:00 #
Feb 22, 2019 15:06:39 #
@LindaFromVermont Nice answer! Appreciated for sure!
k a i t o o/daniel
k a i t o o/daniel
Feb 22, 2019 16:30:25 #
ricardo7 wrote:
Yes, but neither very good.
You mean they are very very good?
PS - they were intended for main discussion section.
Feb 22, 2019 16:57:36 #
Linda From Maine wrote:
You could use the "realistic" benchmark,... (show quote)
Now that we have millions of camera phone photographs being generated on a daily basis, most without PP, perhaps a simple "P" to indicate a post processed photograph might be worth considering? eg "Pphoto"
Feb 22, 2019 17:29:03 #
I would call the second a graphic interpretation of the original. The only time it might be significant is if it violates the rules of some contest.
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Feb 22, 2019 20:36:41 #
Kozan
Loc: Trenton Tennessee
orrie smith wrote:
Art is in the eyes of the beholder, no need to be rude.
I think ricardo7 is just being honest.
I get sick of the benign comments on here about peoples' terrible pictures. People say "Great job" "I like it", etc. When they are really talking about a terrible shot. It doesn't do anybody any good to give these good comments on crappy pictures. It just makes them think they are good photographers when they are really pathetic.
I think being honest is really what we need here, instead of stroking everyone's ego.
Feb 22, 2019 22:33:25 #
billbarcus
Loc: IPNW
No. 1 is definitely a photograph ... as for no.2, I don't consider any image enhanced by Photoshop or other PP software to be photographs. PP is an insult to photography.
Feb 23, 2019 00:47:09 #
billbarcus wrote:
No. 1 is definitely a photograph ... as for no.2, I don't consider any image enhanced by Photoshop or other PP software to be photographs. PP is an insult to photography.
I understand your sentiments. But what about simple sharpening to correct minor sensor issues? or correcting lens aberrations? or correcting white balance? or cropping?
The camera first captures a RAW photograph. Then produces a JPG after that using default or operator settings or both - is this not PP using the cameras's internal computer?
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