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Feb 21, 2019 11:35:17   #
angler Loc: StHelens England
 
Nice work Delderby.

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Feb 21, 2019 11:36:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
When I enlarged the second one, I liked it quite a bit. I think the OP was looking for "constructive" criticism.

I thought he was asking if both were considered photographs.

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Feb 21, 2019 11:39:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Ava'sPapa wrote:
I think the OP was looking for "constructive" criticism.
Re-read the title of the topic. This is a subject that comes up often for discussion, but there is no answer

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Feb 21, 2019 11:46:48   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
Both are photographs. Post Processing alters the reality of the original as shown in number 2.

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Feb 21, 2019 12:16:44   #
Dannj
 
Delderby wrote:
Thanks to all who have replied. I was / am looking for a point at which PP might prevent a picture being thought of as a photograph?


Well, if a “photograph” is defined as “a picture taken by a camera” once it’s changed...the first click in the modification process...it’s no longer a “photograph” unless we attach an adjective to it. “Edited”, “re-touched”, or “photoshopped”, in today’s vernacular., are some positive examples. “Doctored” also works but that has a negative connotation.
By the same thing token, what about a “pizza”? Generally, a “pizza” is dough, tomato sauce and cheese. If we modify it by adding pepperoni is it still a “pizza”?

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Feb 21, 2019 12:47:49   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
The question was answered with the question itself..... The OP referenced BOTH of these as "PICS" in his initial question; a PIC, in the context of this forum, is a photographed image.... A Photograph is by definition an image captured by a camera. We are now on page 2; how far into the weeds do you think us talking avatars " With nothing better to do all day " will take this ?

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Feb 21, 2019 13:03:50   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
MrBob wrote:
The question was answered with the question itself..... The OP referenced BOTH of these as "PICS" in his initial question; a PIC, in the context of this forum, is a photographed image.... A Photograph is by definition an image captured by a camera. We are now on page 2; how far into the weeds do you think us talking avatars " With nothing better to do all day " will take this ?



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Feb 21, 2019 14:34:53   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
MrBob wrote:
... We are now on page 2; how far into the weeds do you think us talking avatars " With nothing better to do all day " will take this ?
"Did you bokeh my child" is currently at eight pages. "A Theoretical Question - How Many Focal Points are TOO Many?" is at 13 pages. Topic length is all relative on UHH 🙄

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Feb 21, 2019 17:10:00   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
Delderby wrote:
Thanks to all who have replied. I was / am looking for a point at which PP might prevent a picture being thought of as a photograph?


You have reached that point. Even though your photos are both considered photography, the first one would be considered normal photography, reality, while the second one would be considered art, removed from reality through post processing.

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Feb 22, 2019 06:37:17   #
Jupiter Creek
 
A photograph is an event created by light interacting with a light sensitive media. Get over it!
Next thing you will argue is if a painting needs paint. Or a sculpture needs -- sculpt!

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Feb 22, 2019 06:39:37   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
Good question. A camera is a tool. It can be used in the traditional sense, or as the source for the sketch which generates the painting.

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Feb 22, 2019 07:33:36   #
Stephan G
 
Delderby wrote:
Well, #1 is a photograph - but what about #2?
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Both are photographs.

Then we can delve into the the adjectives that can be placed before the term. This is the point where we can be very tangential in our personal interpretation with use of such adjective.

I enjoy going to art galleries for picking up new and arbitrary descriptions. One of the best ones came from a six year old. "It is a pretty picture."

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Feb 22, 2019 07:38:10   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
At my club and in area competitions, the second falls into the digital manipulation category.

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Feb 22, 2019 08:11:59   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I would call the second one "photo-based digital art." What you call something only matters if it's entered into a contest or an exhibit where categorizing the artwork is important.

It's similar to the age-old arguments about different means of painting.

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Feb 22, 2019 08:18:09   #
Stephan G
 
AzPicLady wrote:
...It's similar to the age-old arguments about different means of painting.


One finger or two?


Sorry. I just had to daub into this one.


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