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Pentax K-70 ... is this the most-overlooked APS-C on the planet???
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Feb 12, 2019 14:03:30   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
User ID wrote:
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We are truly in Pentax land here .... debating
over which Pentax wins the "Most Overlooked"
award. Hard to figger how Pentax fell into such
a state. Somebody stopped by the other day
with a Pentax FF outfit. Kinda big and clunky,
but it could walk on water and perform various
other miracles. And "big & clunky" is in no way
unique to Pentax anywho. His camera certainly
must be "Most Overlooked" among FF SLRs :-(

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` br br We are truly in Pentax land here ..... (show quote)


The K-1 can walk on water, can it? …. That'll give good old JC a run for the money, won't it, USER ID?

That's the whole point, USER - all Pentax DSLRs are overlooked … K-1, K-3, KP, K-70, K-S1, K-S2, K50.

But, the K-70 - is a STEAL - at just $600. Try finding as good a DSLR as this - for that kinda money!!!

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Feb 12, 2019 14:08:52   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
lsaguy wrote:
I bought a used K20D from KEH for $175. Used it with the 35-80mm lens off the last Pentax film camera I bought. Then I found a Tamron 28-200mm lens (in UG condition) for $20. Works great. An Amazon basics bag for $30 and a lens cap for the Tamron $9.
Now the K20D is not the latest and greatest, nor is any other of this kit, but I've got a really nice and capable camera kit for less than $250!!!
Match that. :-}


Bought my K-50 brand new for $200, and a Tamron 18-200 XR Macro for it - also for $200. Best "kit" purchase I ever made, Isaguy. It can run rings around every other APS-C camera, out there!!!!

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Feb 12, 2019 14:25:30   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
dick ranez wrote:
Pentax could be a business school case study in how to ruin a company. I still use my Pentax Spotmatics, yes I have multiple ones, on a monthly basis along with a bag full of Takumar prime lenses. I even bought a digital Pentax so I could use those lenses. It's on the trash heap with "unknown errors" after three years. My local camera store "could order one for you" but doesn't stock Pentax anymore ("too hard to deal with"), the local Craigslist lists mainly old Spotmatics and a few M types, and it doesn't appear that Ricoh is seriously in the general photography business. Shame, because Pentax has a loyal user base - witness the comments above - and the brand doesn't deserve to die. On the other hand, I'd rather see them swiftly close it down rather than let it slowly bleed to death.
Pentax could be a business school case study in ho... (show quote)


Dick - the Pentax 645Z is - currently, the LEAST expensive Medium Format Digital DSLR. The K-1 is the LEAST expensive 36MP FF DSLR. The KP is the LEAST expensive 5-axis APS-C DSLR. The K-70 is one of the LEAST expensive 24MP APS-C DSLRs with a fully-articulating LCD. Now, then … what was this about Pentax slowly bleeding to death? … Don't worry, Dick - Ricoh has stocked up on bandages - enough for the next couple of decades, at LEAST!!!!

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Feb 12, 2019 14:31:29   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
Chris T wrote:
Quote: "The Pentax K-70 is a 24 megapixel compact APS-C digital SLR camera announced by Ricoh on June 8, 2016. In contrast to the previously introduced APS-C flagship K-3 II, it includes a flash, flip-out display and built-in Wi-Fi. In common with that camera, the K-70 is capable of Pixel Shift Resolution images, which provide higher color resolution and require the camera to be stationary. It is the first Pentax camera to also include on-sensor PDAF elements that support hybrid autofocus, enabling continuous autofocus during video capture. Like its predecessors K-50 and K-S2, the Pentax K-70 is weather-sealed. Its price level and general features identify it as an upper entry level camera. In contrast to the flagship model, it lacks the second display and second memory card slot. It also uses a lower-specified imaging chip, the PRIME MII, but combines it with "a newly developed accelerator unit". As a Pentax APS-C first, a sensitivity of ISO 102,400 is available, and as a Pentax entry-level first, the camera features 14 bit sensor read-out."

Wow!!! ... And I mean - double-Wow!!! ... This should give the Canon EOS 77D a run for the money, eh? comments? ...
Quote: "The Pentax K-70 is a 24 megapixel com... (show quote)


My copy makes pretty good images too.


(Download)

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Feb 12, 2019 14:38:35   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
rehess wrote:
When I purchased my first Pentax SLR in 1979, they were a leading brand. I switched to Canon in 1995 because their EF-mount looked much better than what Pentax was using; I was still a Canon user when we transitioned from the film age to the digital age, but I understand Pentax didn't handle that very gracefully either; apparently Asahi Optical was taken over by Hoya, which then sold Pentax to Ricoh. I had issues with the reliability of Canon Rebels, and ended up switching back to Pentax in 2015 .... and by that time they had become the "do they still exist?" producer.
When I purchased my first Pentax SLR in 1979, they... (show quote)


RE … this is really not the place to bring this up, since the post is about the Pentax K-70 (plus KP - thanks to you!) but - what issues did you have with the reliability of Canon Rebels? … I have two - as you can see, below … and I've never had any "issues" with either one of them. They are BOTH pretty dependable. But, I HAVE developed an issue with my K-50, however! … Also, an issue has developed with my EOS 60D, and, another DSLR - my Nikon D5300 - also, now - has an issue. Plus, my Sony a58 - has an issue - which it's had right from the get-go!!! … So, I don't think you can label an entire brand - because of individual problems you've had with certain cameras. They ALL develop problems, sooner, or later … !!!

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Feb 12, 2019 14:42:21   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tropics68 wrote:
My copy makes pretty good images too.


Wow, Tropics … NICE SHOT!!! … er - what lens was on it when you shot that? … 18-55 or the 18-135?

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Feb 12, 2019 14:51:01   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Chris T wrote:
RE … this is really not the place to bring this up, since the post is about the Pentax K-70 (plus KP - thanks to you!) but - what issues did you have with the reliability of Canon Rebels? … I have two - as you can see, below … and I've never had any "issues" with either one of them. They are BOTH pretty dependable. But, I HAVE developed an issue with my K-50, however! … Also, an issue has developed with my EOS 60D, and, another DSLR - my Nikon D5300 - also, now - has an issue. Plus, my Sony a58 - has an issue - which it's had right from the get-go!!! … So, I don't think you can label an entire brand - because of individual problems you've had with certain cameras. They ALL develop problems, sooner, or later … !!!
RE … this is really not the place to bring this up... (show quote)

Two consecutive ones died of processor failure with a total shutter count of under 5K, each having progressive processor failure in the months leading to the final failure. The second one lasted 20 months.

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Feb 12, 2019 15:09:02   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
Chris T wrote:
Wow, Tropics … NICE SHOT!!! … er - what lens was on it when you shot that? … 18-55 or the 18-135?


18-135

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Feb 12, 2019 15:14:37   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
rehess wrote:
Two consecutive ones died of processor failure with a total shutter count of under 5K, each having progressive processor failure in the months leading to the final failure. The second one lasted 20 months.


Oh, that's a shame, RE … er - which Rebel models were they? … What happened when you contacted CanonUSA for help and advice?

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Feb 12, 2019 15:24:30   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Chris T wrote:
Oh, that's a shame, RE … er - which Rebel models were they? … What happened when you contacted CanonUSA for help and advice?
I don't remember models.
The warranties had expired, so I didn't bother Canon.

My K-30 has succumbed to the Dark Image Syndrome, by it still works fine with aperture ring lenses, so it now is my backup with a FA 28-105 as its primary lens - the first time I've had a backup body since I went digital.

You are right that consumer cameras have issues.

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Feb 12, 2019 15:34:51   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tropics68 wrote:
18-135


That's a nice lens, Tropics … one of the better ones in the Pentax arsenal. I daresay you could've gotten similar results with the K-50, K-30, K-S2, or even the K-S1 …

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Feb 12, 2019 15:42:27   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
rehess wrote:
I don't remember models.
The warranties had expired, so I didn't bother Canon.

My K-30 has succumbed to the Dark Image Syndrome, by it still works fine with aperture ring lenses, so it now is my backup with a FA 28-105 as its primary lens - the first time I've had a backup body since I went digital.

You are right that consumer cameras have issues.


Oh, I see … well, apart from an accumulation of dust and hairs on the sensor - which no amount of cleaning seems to get rid of - my Rebel T3 - is still performing admirably - when I use it … but I've never had a moment of problems with my Rebel T4i - I consider it one of my best cameras ....

Dark Image Syndrome, huh? ... shame, RE ... my K-50 has developed the dreaded Blinks!!! ... You know that thing which brings attention to the lost highlights? ... Does it all the time, now ... even in PB mode!

The KP is your back-up to the K-30 - is it? ... Or, the other way around, RE?

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Feb 12, 2019 15:51:17   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Chris T wrote:
Oh, I see … well, apart from an accumulation of dust and hairs on the sensor - which no amount of cleaning seems to get rid of - my Rebel T3 - is still performing admirably - when I use it … but I've never had a moment of problems with my Rebel T4i - I consider it one of my best cameras ....

Dark Image Syndrome, huh? ... shame, RE ... my K-50 has developed the dreaded Blinks!!! ... You know that thing which brings attention to the lost highlights? ... Does it all the time, now ... even in PB mode!

The KP is your back-up to the K-30 - is it? ... Or, the other way around, RE?
Oh, I see … well, apart from an accumulation of du... (show quote)

KP is main camera .... so much better!

With the K-30 my self-imposed limit was ISO 800.
With the KP my current self-imposed limit is ISO 12800.

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Feb 12, 2019 16:34:31   #
tropics68 Loc: Georgia
 
Chris T wrote:
That's a nice lens, Tropics … one of the better ones in the Pentax arsenal. I daresay you could've gotten similar results with the K-50, K-30, K-S2, or even the K-S1 …


Perhaps. Never used any of them. Never owned a Pentax until about a year ago. I have a K-5 also. Got it pretty reasonable used, after I bought the K-70. Great low light handling. I keep it hooked up to a Pentax 100mm f2.8 macro. That combo makes some very nice images. It may be the best prime lens I have.

I am partial to zooms however. They are just more versatile. Zooming with my feet is not my cup of tea. The K-70, with the 18-135 and the 55-300 is my walk around "kit", & covers pretty much anything I might come across.

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Feb 12, 2019 16:59:13   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
rehess wrote:
KP is main camera .... so much better!

With the K-30 my self-imposed limit was ISO 800.
With the KP my current self-imposed limit is ISO 12800.


Yes, RE - and it's - supposedly - good up to 819,200 … if you should want to go that high, RE …

And, I just read it also has an electronic shutter, good to 1/24000th …. wow!!! … neat !!!!

But, also - the review I just read, indicated there were problems with continual AF …

Have you experienced such problems, RE?

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-kp-review/

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