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Feb 5, 2019 22:07:38   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Malena73 wrote:
As a two-way radio technician I have to disagree with you on your comment about Motorola lifespan. They will stop supporting the higher end radios around 10 years to force the police and first respondes to replace or upgrade the software. If they are taken care of and not beat to hell then they will be able to repaired for much longer than you would think. The batteries are not usually the cause of having to get a new radio. There are always after market batteries out there, and I have seen some last longer than Motorola brand.

Just my 2 cents worth of knowledge. 😁
As a two-way radio technician I have to disagree w... (show quote)


Motorola has been building high quality commercial radios for a very very long time, and their longevity is excellent even though the protocols may have changed. Many Motorola base stations that are decades old have been successfully repurposed as 24x7 ham radio repeaters.

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Feb 5, 2019 23:32:09   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Malena73 wrote:
As a two-way radio technician I have to disagree with you on your comment about Motorola lifespan. They will stop supporting the higher end radios around 10 years to force the police and first respondes to replace or upgrade the software. If they are taken care of and not beat to hell then they will be able to repaired for much longer than you would think. The batteries are not usually the cause of having to get a new radio. There are always after market batteries out there, and I have seen some last longer than Motorola brand.

Just my 2 cents worth of knowledge. 😁
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You are correct about aftermarket batteries. But the very good and very popular JEDI family (HT1000, JT1000 and others) was largely orphaned by the unavailability of NIMH batteries, at least in this neck of the woods. This was especially problematic for those of us requiring Intrinsically Safe systems, where about 90% of the compliance revolves around the battey.

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Feb 6, 2019 03:50:41   #
hogesinwa Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
 
Kuzano wrote:
Good Luck. It's quite happenstance and your guess is as good as anybody on this or any other site. What will the finance division of your household say if you are wrong and the new model, if one is in the works comes out a week after you deduce you are good for a year.

Take your lumps like we all do. Most decisions are made on the fantasy that the next model will get me over the lumps to nirvana professional.

During the film days that fantasy camera often took 2+ years. With digital, the time lapse is often days or or weeks. A readily tappable home equity loan is in vogue in this era. Take your chances. I went back to film. I'm not fretting over the intro of the next level of film camera. The dissappointment in short waits for advances in digital never did give me a camera that would outshoot my best film days.

Many are going back, which is why I make most of my money selling film Camera's from days of yore on eBay.

Did you EVER shoot film. Ecstacy lives in that realm.
Good Luck. It's quite happenstance and your guess ... (show quote)


Yes, had a Minolta X-700 and backup X-300 from about 1973 on. Plus 2 x Eumig Nautica 8mm Underwater movie cameras.
I am the finance centre in my household so I'm the one that will be irritated if I pay over-the-top for a model that retails for a vast discount shortly after shelling out full asking price.

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Feb 6, 2019 05:57:14   #
BebuLamar
 
hogesinwa wrote:
Yes, had a Minolta X-700 and backup X-300 from about 1973 on. Plus 2 x Eumig Nautica 8mm Underwater movie cameras.
I am the finance centre in my household so I'm the one that will be irritated if I pay over-the-top for a model that retails for a vast discount shortly after shelling out full asking price.


There were no X-700 or X-300 in the 70's.

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Feb 6, 2019 05:59:03   #
BebuLamar
 
hogesinwa wrote:
Yes, had a Minolta X-700 and backup X-300 from about 1973 on. Plus 2 x Eumig Nautica 8mm Underwater movie cameras.
I am the finance centre in my household so I'm the one that will be irritated if I pay over-the-top for a model that retails for a vast discount shortly after shelling out full asking price.


I paid $2730 for my Nikon Df more than 5 years ago and I think the price is still the same today. No vast discount.

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Feb 6, 2019 15:02:32   #
loperR Loc: Medina ,Ohio
 
BebuLamar wrote:
There were no X-700 or X-300 in the 70's.


That's what I thought.

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Feb 6, 2019 20:29:52   #
hogesinwa Loc: Dalyellup Western Australia
 
loperR wrote:
That's what I thought.


I went back and checked. I had the 700 on my first trip to Bali in 1981. Also had the Eumigs before then because I have underwater footage from Bali 81 and before on Rottnest Island. My first scuba dive alone was 1/1/80 so I didn't have them before that.

I have a lot of shots from my first trip to Singapore in 1976 but can't remember what I used. I thought it was the Minolta but must have been something prior to that.

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Feb 7, 2019 15:32:31   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Well, let's see.... the 5D Mark IV was introduced in the Fall of 2016.... so it's just about a 2.5 year old model now.

The 5D Mark III that preceded it was intro'd in the Spring of 2012.... so it had a 4.5 year "life".

The original 6D also had a full 5 year product life and the 6D Mark II is closing in on something similar.

The original 7D also saw a full 5 years on the shelf and the 7D Mark II will soon be heading into it's 5th year.

And the 5DS/5DS-R are just shy of their 4th birthday.

So I suspect 5DIV will be around for a year to two years longer, if they hold true to form. Plus, Canon has signaled in recent interviews and their annual report that their focus is going to be more on mirrorless, less on DSLRs. Canon aren't going to let DSLRs slide, they're still the bulk of sales. But I suspect new DSLR models will be introduced at a slower pace and there may even be some reduction in the number of DSLRs Canon offers in the future, while their list of MILC models grows.

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Feb 7, 2019 15:56:52   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Well, let's see.... the 5D Mark IV was introduced in the Fall of 2016.... so it's just about a 2.5 year old model now.

The 5D Mark III that preceded it was intro'd in the Spring of 2012.... so it had a 4.5 year "life".

The original 6D also had a full 5 year product life and the 6D Mark II is closing in on something similar.

The original 7D also saw a full 5 years on the shelf and the 7D Mark II will soon be heading into it's 5th year.

And the 5DS/5DS-R are just shy of their 4th birthday.

So I suspect 5DIV will be around for a year to two years longer, if they hold true to form. Plus, Canon has signaled in recent interviews and their annual report that their focus is going to be more on mirrorless, less on DSLRs. Canon aren't going to let DSLRs slide, they're still the bulk of sales. But I suspect new DSLR models will be introduced at a slower pace and there may even be some reduction in the number of DSLRs Canon offers in the future, while their list of MILC models grows.
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👍👍 Good data, and I didn’t even think twice when I traded up my 5D3 for a 5D4 last week. It delivers the performance and features I need, and as long as it works or can be repaired, I could care less what the new product cycle is - it’s an excellent body. My only regret is that I really couldn’t justify keeping both as I don’t shoot weddings anymore, and I really loved the 5D3 - you can get really attached to a fine tool that serves you well.

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Feb 8, 2019 19:29:37   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
b roll wanabee wrote:
I guess it is more about what it will do. If you have $4000 to spend on camera bodies why not get a 5ds and for video get a c series.

How much better is a 5dmkii vs a 5dmkiii at taking pictures. Not that much in my opinion.
Do you really need a 50mp camera?


It kind of boils down to wanting vs needing. Do most people need the super detailed resolution of the 5Dsr? No. But once you've seen what it see's, you may definitely want one.

When it first came out, I had no intension of getting one, and my thirst for detail was still quenched by my 6D and 7DII. Then a friend, who worked at a camera store, convinced me to try a 5Ds for a few hours. Among the photos I took was a Red Tail Hawk at a distance of about 30 feet. The detail in the images was amazing. You could clearly see the individual barbs in the hawks feathers. I didn't need this camera but I sure wanted one, just needed a good excuse (rationalization) to buy one.
My birthday and Christmas are just over a month apart, so, happy birthday/happy Christmas to me.
I quickly learned that as great a camera the 5Dsr is, it's not necessarily an ideal every day shooter. For one, its image files are quite large. The 5Dsr isn't really an action camera either. It likes, and pretty much demands, really good light. Not exactly the camera for use in less than ideal lighting conditions as there's really no cranking up the ISO. So, now I use my 5Dsr for more specific shooting and my 5DIV for every day shooting. I usually hang the long lenses on my 80D.
I read somewhere that Canon is planning on replacing the 5Ds/r with a super high resolution mirrorless with no low pass filter, somewhere in the 60 to 75 megapixel range. That would be pretty cool but they really need to seriously concentrate on reducing the file sizes. the 4K files my 5DIV produces are far, far larger than they could be. Come on Canon, how about some realistic compression software. You guys are smart; it's just mathematics.

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