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Feb 2, 2019 07:40:51   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
I am a photojournalist and would like input from others on their direct experience of owning both the IDX MK II and, the 5D MK4 together for their journalistic work.

I feel the need to:
1. Get an edge or advantage on low light photography.
2. Also an advantage on speed and focus for sports and automotive.

I have read a lot of conflicting information on resolution vs speed ect. The MK4 is supposed to be superior in resolution and, also be more than adequate for most sports with only buffer and burst at a disadvantage. I am happy with my current camera bodies but have no experience with the 1DX MK II.

My question is about possible gains or losses in image quality with the 1DX MK II vs, sticking with the pair of 5D MK4's i have now.

I will keep the two 'MK 4's, considering a purchase of the 1DX MK II, but only if it has measurable worth.

Thanks for any information.

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Feb 2, 2019 07:45:42   #
khorinek
 
I worked for the local newspaper and used my 5D Mark IV and Mark III. A coworker used a Canon 1DX Mark I. You could not tell who's photos came from either camera. I didnt think the 1DX was worth the $$$ over a Mark IV.

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Feb 2, 2019 09:30:19   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
You'd probably be better off to rent the 1DXii and see what it does for you the way you use it.

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Feb 2, 2019 09:34:14   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
catchlight.. wrote:
I am a photojournalist and would like input from others on their direct experience of owning both the IDX MK II and, the 5D MK4 together for their journalistic work.

I feel the need to:
1. Get an edge or advantage on low light photography.
2. Also an advantage on speed and focus for sports and automotive.

I have read a lot of conflicting information on resolution vs speed ect. The MK4 is supposed to be superior in resolution and, also be more than adequate for most sports with only buffer and burst at a disadvantage. I am happy with my current camera bodies but have no experience with the 1DX MK II.

My question is about possible gains or losses in image quality with the 1DX MK II vs, sticking with the pair of 5D MK4's i have now.

I will keep the two 'MK 4's, considering a purchase of the 1DX MK II, but only if it has measurable worth.

Thanks for any information.
I am a photojournalist and would like input from o... (show quote)


There is an old saying about not sending a boy to do a man's job. The 5 series are nice full framed camera bodies. No 5 series can keep up with a 1 DX in any regard. The v. II has only 4-K video and an extra fast CF chip reader/writer that the original ! Dx has not. Save yourself big bucks and get a used copy of the 1 Dx. In low light usage the 1 Dx is superior. In speed there is no comparison. It is big, rugged, and heavy. At this time there is still no other camera like it. Rent one and see how you feel after a week, or so.

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Feb 2, 2019 10:01:55   #
BB4A
 
catchlight.. wrote:
I am a photojournalist and would like input from others on their direct experience of owning both the IDX MK II and, the 5D MK4 together for their journalistic work.

I feel the need to:
1. Get an edge or advantage on low light photography.
2. Also an advantage on speed and focus for sports and automotive.

I have read a lot of conflicting information on resolution vs speed ect. The MK4 is supposed to be superior in resolution and, also be more than adequate for most sports with only buffer and burst at a disadvantage. I am happy with my current camera bodies but have no experience with the 1DX MK II.

My question is about possible gains or losses in image quality with the 1DX MK II vs, sticking with the pair of 5D MK4's i have now.

I will keep the two 'MK 4's, considering a purchase of the 1DX MK II, but only if it has measurable worth.

Thanks for any information.
I am a photojournalist and would like input from o... (show quote)


For photojournalism, I rate the 1DX MKii highly. Yes, it’s heavy, bulky, and expensive. But, in this genre, you may need speed, and this is the body that will give you all the speed you will ever need. It’s also superb for any sports genre where you can “set up camp” and shoot from a relatively stable position, particularly with lenses over 400mm. For image quality, you can’t beat this body currently, if only because, if you have it set up correctly, the speed will give you more opportunities to catch that near-perfect image in a fleeting moment at a sporting event... you won’t experience the dreaded buffering.

Saying all that, I’m a big fan of the 5D Mkiv. I currently own two bodies and use them everywhere that I have to (a) walk any distance to my planned location, (b) may need to shoot targets of opportunity along the way, and (c) where I’m likely to have to hand-hold for most of my shots or just be moving around a lot between shots. Most of the images I’ve published on this site were shot with a 5D Mkiv body; it’s a very versatile body, with bullet-proof ability to produce quality images at all light levels (I really can’t find any difference between the two bodies on low light capture quality). And, it’s a LOT lighter than the 1DX Mkii.

Ultimately, it all comes down to money versus application. If you feel you need the speed to get the shots that will deliver you the best financial return, you are probably right. You might also want to consider a Canon professional contract and then you will have a variety of options to try out the Big Lump?

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Feb 2, 2019 11:34:00   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
At a recent photo journalism class put on by the photographers from our local paper (who has a half dozen photographers), 5 were using a 5D3 or 5D4, but the sports photographer was using a 1DX2. BTW, it was interesting to note that every single one had a 70-200 f2.8L as one of the lenses in their kit.

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Feb 2, 2019 14:29:08   #
BB4A
 
TriX wrote:
At a recent photo journalism class put on by the photographers from our local paper (who has a half dozen photographers), 5 were using a 5D3 or 5D4, but the sports photographer was using a 1DX2. BTW, it was interesting to note that every single one had a 70-200 f2.8L as one of the lenses in their kit.


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Feb 3, 2019 06:06:43   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I have had my MkII since October 2016. I have no regrets. I consider it the Canon low light champ. I want only one body that can do most any shooting I need. It is big and heavy but that can be an advantage in some respects such as balancing the weight of larger lenses. It is a tank build wise and I prefer the built in vertical grip and controls. It really comes down to what you want to do with it. The 5D4 would be my second choice and it will be interesting to see what a 7D3 might offer too when that comes along.

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Feb 3, 2019 06:49:57   #
jameyward Loc: North Carolina
 
I own both and the biggest advantages of the 1DX Mk2 are the 14fps and larger battery. A battery grip for the 5D Mk4 would even the playing field for battery life and you only need 14fps if you are shooting very fast moving objects. A great example of this is to consider a basketball player dunking the ball. This can be done in one second or less. The 5D will get you 3-4 shots of this. The 1DX will produce 10-12.

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Feb 3, 2019 08:36:49   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Renting? Now that's a thought. But if you have a good working camera continue to use it. Don't fix what "ain't" broke. The 1Dx Mark II is heavier i think.

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Feb 3, 2019 08:38:32   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
Wow I never thought of it that way. Personally, I go for quality rather than quantity.

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Feb 3, 2019 08:43:44   #
ronz Loc: Florida
 
Even for sports I have a very hard time justifying the 1DX. Just carrying it around for a few hours really gets old in a hurry. Sure it is a little faster but consider, how many time do you "have to shoot" 3 to 4 more fps than the 5d or 7d ll will give you? Even the 7d ll is very fast and great for sports. The cost difference is a consideration but as I always do, if I need it I will buy it. Just haven't found a must have for it yet. Was shooting beside a photographer at a game last week and was using one of my 7d ll, he was more interested in using mine than his and he just shook his head and couldn't believe it. Still, I love the 5div, who wouldn't???????????

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Feb 3, 2019 11:01:40   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
4 of my 5 grand kids play basketball. I have a 5d3 mk2 which handles high ISO well but is painfully slow for shooting sports. I also have a 7d mk2 which has the speed but gets very noisy north of ISO 800. I got the 1DX a month ago hoping it would combine the two. Couldn't be happier with its performance!! Other than cropping and sharpening, this is a raw shot at 20,000 ISO with no noise reduction. A bonus feature that I really find handy is the dedicated buttons for the basic settings like white balance, metering etc. I find it faster & more convenient than going through a menu.


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Feb 3, 2019 12:18:50   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
If I was a professional sports shooter or shot in really nasty conditions and could afford the price, I would buy the 1DX MKII in a second - it is a GREAT camera, and you’ll see them at every major sporting event. In terms of weight, it is a little over a pound heavier than a 5D4, but by the time you add the battery grip and 2 batteries to the 5D, they are very similar and the low light ISO performance and DR charts are almost identical. The other big differences are that the IDX has twice the burst FPS rate of the 5D4 and a huge buffer to boot, while the 5D4 is 30MP and the IDX is 21, and of course the price of the 1DX is 2X. You pays your money and takes your choice.

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Feb 3, 2019 15:39:00   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
When I was making my decision in August- September 2016 the 5D4 was still coming and the 7D2 was a couple years old. The MkII has almost the same MPs as the 5D3 which had been the Canon go to camera for many professional shooters. So, you could get similar MPs with 14-16 FPS. The MkII has better video capabilities than the 5D4. Since I had a 1D MkIII I was used to that size, form and functional layout. If I would buy a 7D2 or 5D4 I would add a vertical grip and extra batteries. At the time that would have made the price about $4k vs $6k between the MkII and the 5D4.

One thing I did consider was getting both the 5D4 and 7D2 for about the same money as the MkII. But I prefer to have a single body...just my choice.

The MkII also has a ton of processing power for focus and moving data. It also has 360k and 200plus zones sensor for metering and does an amazing job of matrix metering even in difficult conditions. It is also rated for 400k shutter actuations and built for rugged use.

Bottom line is any camera is a compromise in one way or another. There are different choices for different reasons and every body will be eclipsed down the road. If they had full touch screen capabilities like the 5D4 it would be even better. I think that could be implemented within the software but don’t expect it to be. The button layout is easy to learn and duplicated in both horizontal and vertical grip layouts.

TriX wrote:
If I was a professional sports shooter or shot in really nasty conditions and could afford the price, I would buy the 1DX MKII in a second - it is a GREAT camera, and you’ll see them at every major sporting event. In terms of weight, it is a little over a pound heavier than a 5D4, but by the time you add the battery grip and 2 batteries to the 5D, they are very similar and the low light ISO performance and DR charts are almost identical. The other big differences are that the IDX has twice the burst FPS rate of the 5D4 and a huge buffer to boot, while the 5D4 is 30MP and the IDX is 21, and of course the price of the 1DX is 2X. You pays your money and takes your choice.
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