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Jan 15, 2019 20:11:57   #
jcboy3
 
Never negotiate with terrorists or extortionists.

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Jan 15, 2019 20:17:35   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Math

5 billion for one time cost!

Cost figures of illegal immigrants above 54 billion a year. With anywhere between 11,000,000 and 33,000,000 illegals in this country and rising every day.

Within one year that would start saving up to 49 billion freed up for infrastructure. And then jump to 54 billion the next year. But of course these figures would not reach that high of a goal. At least not until you capture the ones here and eject them form the country. But of course i0ot would start slowing the ranks that are increasing everyday adding to the 54 billion.

Why do people go and get things on sale when they would only need it in the future. To Free up money later!
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Except that 5 billion would only be a down payment, and would accomplish so much more it terms of illegals deterred spent differently.

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Jan 15, 2019 21:19:12   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
Except that 5 billion would only be a down payment, and would accomplish so much more it terms of illegals deterred spent differently.


Would you care to translate this for me?

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Jan 15, 2019 22:21:59   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
Would you care to translate this for me?


Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to write a book. 5 billion dollars is only a down payment on putting a fence from one end to the other of the southern border. I believe 5 billion would do a lot more towards eliminating illegal aliens in the country by being applied to methods other than a fence. Where the existing fence needs repaired or replaced, I don't have an objection. Only if people from south of our border (brown people) are your major concern, is there a chance that a southern border fence would be effective. Most illegal aliens no longer come in that way. Most fly in. Some come in hidden in vehicles. The fence would do nothing to curtail that at all. A lot of property would have to be bought to complete this fence and a lot of the property owners object very strongly. In some areas a fence will severely mess with commerce and may even make ghost towns out of some towns.

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Jan 15, 2019 22:37:43   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
thom w wrote:
Except that 5 billion would only be a down payment, and would accomplish so much more it terms of illegals deterred spent differently.


Your right, he needs 25 billion in one lump sum to save money and get the job comprehensively done nationally.
Thanks I’ll let him know...

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Jan 15, 2019 22:59:04   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to write a book. 5 billion dollars is only a down payment on putting a fence from one end to the other of the southern border. I believe 5 billion would do a lot more towards eliminating illegal aliens in the country by being applied to methods other than a fence. Where the existing fence needs repaired or replaced, I don't have an objection. Only if people from south of our border (brown people) are your major concern, is there a chance that a southern border fence would be effective. Most illegal aliens no longer come in that way. Most fly in. Some come in hidden in vehicles. The fence would do nothing to curtail that at all. A lot of property would have to be bought to complete this fence and a lot of the property owners object very strongly. In some areas a fence will severely mess with commerce and may even make ghost towns out of some towns.
Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to ... (show quote)


Most do not fly in, that is a misstatement of fact. Next be aware that this is not about the color of the illegal intruder's skin. Finally, he addition of more fence and wall at the San Diego, El Paso, and one other problem area has cut the illegal crossings by as much as 90%, fences and walls do work. If Satan himself wanted to build the walls I would support him.

The US is a great attraction to those that live in the failing countries that are within walking distance of our southern border, do not blame them for taking advantage of our poorly protected border in an effort to better themselves. In our personal life we build walls to protect ourselves from unwanted intruders, we put doors and locks on our walls and only allow those that knock, ask for entry, and identify themselves, the same needs to be applied to our country.

The US is probably the only civilized country that does not enforce it's visa time limits, and does not actively search and deport those that overstay.

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Jan 16, 2019 02:28:17   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
thom w wrote:
Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to write a book. 5 billion dollars is only a down payment on putting a fence from one end to the other of the southern border. I believe 5 billion would do a lot more towards eliminating illegal aliens in the country by being applied to methods other than a fence. Where the existing fence needs repaired or replaced, I don't have an objection. Only if people from south of our border (brown people) are your major concern, is there a chance that a southern border fence would be effective. Most illegal aliens no longer come in that way. Most fly in. Some come in hidden in vehicles. The fence would do nothing to curtail that at all. A lot of property would have to be bought to complete this fence and a lot of the property owners object very strongly. In some areas a fence will severely mess with commerce and may even make ghost towns out of some towns.
Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to ... (show quote)


You are a RACIST! Your Quote:" Only if people from south of our border (brown people) are your major concern," The only person who has brought race into this is you.

If you do a little research you will find there is a percentage of people from around the world that is coming through the southern border. Not just brown Mexican, and Central Americans. Arabs (many countries), African (many countries), Chinese, etc are coming.

Mexico was caught selling $3.000 visas to their country 'in foreign lands' at their embassies so those people could enter our southern border. So it is not just against brown people.

Oh! l have grandkids and great grandkids that are Mexican descendants. So I am well acquainted with brown people! I have great friends that are various brown people! You are a RACIST!

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Jan 16, 2019 07:43:05   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Only in your dreams!

The traitor is currently occupying the Oval Office!

Benedict Arnold comes to mind, but instead of selling out to the British, trump has sold out his country to Russia.


Shutterbug, have a good day, but I see obummer as a very evil, lying, manipulative person who tried to destroy the US and almost succeeded. Trump was elected BECAUSE OF OBAMA AND HIS DICTATORSHIP.

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Jan 16, 2019 07:44:31   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Now you are really showing how difficult your mental deficiency is. You talk about “showing your intelligence for all to see why you use foolishly childish terms like “ hildabeast. Oh wait that was you using childish terms.


She is a Hildabeast, that is on her. I could have also called her a crook, a liar, a manipulator and a criminal.

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Jan 16, 2019 07:46:45   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
Except that 5 billion would only be a down payment, and would accomplish so much more it terms of illegals deterred spent differently.


Little tommie half the country wants a wall. You are just spewing crap again. "It could accomplish so much more".....how would you know that? You don't, you are just spewing your very lib fascist socialist opinion again.

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Jan 16, 2019 07:50:22   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to write a book. 5 billion dollars is only a down payment on putting a fence from one end to the other of the southern border. I believe 5 billion would do a lot more towards eliminating illegal aliens in the country by being applied to methods other than a fence. Where the existing fence needs repaired or replaced, I don't have an objection. Only if people from south of our border (brown people) are your major concern, is there a chance that a southern border fence would be effective. Most illegal aliens no longer come in that way. Most fly in. Some come in hidden in vehicles. The fence would do nothing to curtail that at all. A lot of property would have to be bought to complete this fence and a lot of the property owners object very strongly. In some areas a fence will severely mess with commerce and may even make ghost towns out of some towns.
Sure, I meant to be clear but I was trying not to ... (show quote)


Little tommie you are a died in the wool racist. You are constantly referring to skin color. So, a racist and you lie prolifically and have ZERO credibility. The fact is, YOU do not get to decide what the country needs and you have no facts to back up what you are saying. This is the crap that gets you to ZERO credibility.

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Jan 16, 2019 07:50:50   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
letmedance wrote:
Most do not fly in, that is a misstatement of fact. Next be aware that this is not about the color of the illegal intruder's skin. Finally, he addition of more fence and wall at the San Diego, El Paso, and one other problem area has cut the illegal crossings by as much as 90%, fences and walls do work. If Satan himself wanted to build the walls I would support him.

The US is a great attraction to those that live in the failing countries that are within walking distance of our southern border, do not blame them for taking advantage of our poorly protected border in an effort to better themselves. In our personal life we build walls to protect ourselves from unwanted intruders, we put doors and locks on our walls and only allow those that knock, ask for entry, and identify themselves, the same needs to be applied to our country.

The US is probably the only civilized country that does not enforce it's visa time limits, and does not actively search and deport those that overstay.
Most do not fly in, that is a misstatement of fact... (show quote)



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Jan 16, 2019 07:53:00   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Ka2azman wrote:
You are a RACIST! Your Quote:" Only if people from south of our border (brown people) are your major concern," The only person who has brought race into this is you.

If you do a little research you will find there is a percentage of people from around the world that is coming through the southern border. Not just brown Mexican, and Central Americans. Arabs (many countries), African (many countries), Chinese, etc are coming.

Mexico was caught selling $3.000 visas to their country 'in foreign lands' at their embassies so those people could enter our southern border. So it is not just against brown people.

Oh! l have grandkids and great grandkids that are Mexican descendants. So I am well acquainted with brown people! I have great friends that are various brown people! You are a RACIST!
You are a RACIST! Your Quote:" Only if people... (show quote)



I agree Kaz and he is the worst kind of racist. He disgusts me.

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Jan 16, 2019 12:39:59   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Little tommie you are a died in the wool racist. You are constantly referring to skin color. So, a racist and you lie prolifically and have ZERO credibility. The fact is, YOU do not get to decide what the country needs and you have no facts to back up what you are saying. This is the crap that gets you to ZERO credibility.


So what you are saying is that he would be a good Republican.

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Jan 16, 2019 12:49:11   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So what you are saying is that he would be a good Republican.



Upside down flag guy, you sound like little tommie trying to be clever and insult and having his usual epic fail at it.

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