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Nov 29, 2018 19:19:00   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
I have Canon T6i camera lens 70-200f/2.8 IS II USM I used this last year on Grandson Basketball pictures The setting I use was 3200-2.8-3200 on Manual they was okay but would like to get better. I just brought a Canon 80D was going to use it so would I still use the same sitting I was thinking about using the 24-70-f/2.8 L II usm. What do you all think I need to do and please don't say buy another camera :) Thanks DelRae

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Nov 29, 2018 19:47:51   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DelRae wrote:
I have Canon T6i camera lens 70-200f/2.8 IS II USM I used this last year on Grandson Basketball pictures The setting I use was 3200-2.8-3200 on Manual they was okay but would like to get better. I just brought a Canon 80D was going to use it so would I still use the same sitting I was thinking about using the 24-70-f/2.8 L II usm. What do you all think I need to do and please don't say buy another camera :) Thanks DelRae

What to do?

ANS: post 1 to three examples that show the areas you want to improve. Be sure to store the original so we can download and review the shooting parameters from the EXIF data. You may find the 80D is the improvement needed. But, from your quoted exposure parameters, the first obvious change is to shoot around 1/800 to 1/1600, more than fast enough to freeze most basketball action. Lengthening the shutter speed lets you close down the aperture and / or lower the ISO that will have an immediate improvement even before using the advanced AF capabilities of the 80D.

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Dec 1, 2018 16:30:56   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
thank you for getting back to me on this I was trying different setting with my new 80D I put it on M Mode ISO at 5000 Shutter at 3200 Aperture at F 3.5 I have AF 1 point Manual select -on , High speed continuoes , Tungsten light, Manual Focus , AF method face tracking, the ISO is set at 5000 or should I have it at Auto Rang 100 to 1600 what do you think about the setting? here is some pictures. the lighting is good in some spots in there it a new gym I shot from the floor or bottom of the bleachers what do you think?
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What to do?

ANS: post 1 to three examples that show the areas you want to improve. Be sure to store the original so we can download and review the shooting parameters from the EXIF data. You may find the 80D is the improvement needed. But, from your quoted exposure parameters, the first obvious change is to shoot around 1/800 to 1/1600, more than fast enough to freeze most basketball action. Lengthening the shutter speed lets you close down the aperture and / or lower the ISO that will have an immediate improvement even before using the advanced AF capabilities of the 80D.
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Dec 2, 2018 22:39:36   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
last night I had the setting at ISO 3200 Shutter 3200 Aperture f2.8 here is some pictures of the game
DelRae wrote:
thank you for getting back to me on this I was trying different setting with my new 80D I put it on M Mode ISO at 5000 Shutter at 3200 Aperture at F 3.5 I have AF 1 point Manual select -on , High speed continuoes , Tungsten light, Manual Focus , AF method face tracking, the ISO is set at 5000 or should I have it at Auto Rang 100 to 1600 what do you think about the setting? here is some pictures. the lighting is good in some spots in there it a new gym I shot from the floor or bottom of the bleachers what do you think?
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Dec 3, 2018 06:54:40   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Hi DelRae,

I looked at the images and attached an analysis of two of them using Canon's DPP software. Looking at the location and results of using a single-focus point, I suggest you review chapter 3 of the EOS 80D user manual, and specifically the AF Area options. I would try Zone AF with AI Servo. You might try the Large Zone too trying to keep the subject in the Center Zone.

I would also look at the "custom function" AF sensitivity settings, beginning page 416 in the manual. You might print these pages (download the PDF from the USA Canon website) and experiment in pregame warm-ups whether moving left (Locked-On) or right (Responsiveness) is helpful. Looking at your example images, I would begin with -1 (toward left / Locked-on) with an AF Zone, page 416 C.Fn II: Autofocus

I'd also look at page 417 C.Fn II -2 Acceleration/deceleration tracking. Try +1 for say the first half of a game and +2 for the second half. Then, evaluate the results and see if one or either was better for your needs.

I would definitely set the AF point switching to +1 for page 417 C.Fn II -3 AF point auto switching, assuming you begin to use one of the AF Zone settings.

Finally, many sports / bird-in-flight photographers using a configuration called Back-Button Focus (BBF). In this configuration, you separate the AF operation from the shutter release. You assign AF to a button on the back of the camera and use your thumb to maintain autofocus in AI Servo at all times and then release the shutter with your index finger. If you take the image example below where player #24 dribbling with the ball toward the camera, you would set your Zone AF group in the center or center-top and track the player in BBF from the in-bounding of the ball. As the player approaches a shooting distance, say half court, you then begin releasing the shutter. With good technique and the custom functions set above, the player should be in perfect focus, on their chest or face.

One final point of clarification, your text repeatedly references 1/3200 as shutter. The actual value is 1/320. Given the light in this gym, you probably will be better served staying at f/2.8 and a bit faster on the shutter, even if just 1/3 stop to 1/400 or faster (if light and ISO at ISO-5000 less) to 1/500.

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Dec 4, 2018 10:20:49   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
Thank you so much on getting back to me on this I will do some more reading :)
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hi DelRae,

I looked at the images and attached an analysis of two of them using Canon's DPP software. Looking at the location and results of using a single-focus point, I suggest you review chapter 3 of the EOS 80D user manual, and specifically the AF Area options. I would try Zone AF with AI Servo. You might try the Large Zone too trying to keep the subject in the Center Zone.

I would also look at the "custom function" AF sensitivity settings, beginning page 416 in the manual. You might print these pages (download the PDF from the USA Canon website) and experiment in pregame warm-ups whether moving left (Locked-On) or right (Responsiveness) is helpful. Looking at your example images, I would begin with -1 (toward left / Locked-on) with an AF Zone, page 416 C.Fn II: Autofocus

I'd also look at page 417 C.Fn II -2 Acceleration/deceleration tracking. Try +1 for say the first half of a game and +2 for the second half. Then, evaluate the results and see if one or either was better for your needs.

I would definitely set the AF point switching to +1 for page 417 C.Fn II -3 AF point auto switching, assuming you begin to use one of the AF Zone settings.

Finally, many sports / bird-in-flight photographers using a configuration called Back-Button Focus (BBF). In this configuration, you separate the AF operation from the shutter release. You assign AF to a button on the back of the camera and use your thumb to maintain autofocus in AI Servo at all times and then release the shutter with your index finger. If you take the image example below where player #24 dribbling with the ball toward the camera, you would set your Zone AF group in the center or center-top and track the player in BBF from the in-bounding of the ball. As the player approaches a shooting distance, say half court, you then begin releasing the shutter. With good technique and the custom functions set above, the player should be in perfect focus, on their chest or face.

One final point of clarification, your text repeatedly references 1/3200 as shutter. The actual value is 1/320. Given the light in this gym, you probably will be better served staying at f/2.8 and a bit faster on the shutter, even if just 1/3 stop to 1/400 or faster (if light and ISO at ISO-5000 less) to 1/500.

/paul
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Dec 5, 2018 07:20:58   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
DelRae wrote:
Thank you so much on getting back to me on this I will do some more reading :)

Glad to help and look forward to new results. It takes a good deal of practice and the experience with the various configuration settings that practice provides. Your framing is good and the colors and exposure from the lens / camera look good too. Nailing the focus should bring it all together.

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Dec 23, 2018 10:43:28   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
Can you please help me out again I brought the Canon 80D I mess up my lenses are not working that good on this camera I think I really need a full frame camera. so the lenses work better for a good full frame camera that will get me better pictures I do Grand kids high school Basketball and soccer games and some nice family pictures. I am hoping they will take the Camera back but I don,t what camera to replace it with what would do it for me I am 67 love taking pictures I thought if I go ahead and brought the lenses they would go with any camera I paid 999.99 I can put 200.00 more on new camera hoping canon will take it back the 80D. feeling down help please Thank you DelRae

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Dec 23, 2018 10:45:29   #
DelRae Loc: Oregon
 
P.S. theses are my leases I have
1. EF 70-200 f 2.8 L IS II USM this one I have been using for sports
2 EF 24-70mm f2.8 L II USM for pictures
3. EF 50 mm f/1.4 for pictures too

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