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Dec 10, 2018 23:47:41   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
imagemeister wrote:
F3.5 + 2 stops = f7.1, 3 stops = f10

Correct.

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Dec 10, 2018 23:59:12   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Jsykes wrote:
Thanks

I am seeing f/3.5>>f/4.0>>f/4.5>>f/5.6>>f/6.7>>f8.0>>f/9.5>>f11


Typical one-third-stop f-number scale. The bolded numbers are the full stops. One stop from f/3.5 would be f/5. Two Stops would be f/7.1. Three stops would be f/10. But for landscapes on sunny days you might want to try f/11 to f/16. Depending on the lens you could also try around f/22 but you might start to lose some sharpness due to diffraction.

1.2, 1.4,1.6, 1.8, 2, 2.2, 2.5, 2.8,3.2, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5.0, 5.6, 6.3, 7.1, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 25, 29, 32

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Dec 11, 2018 02:34:56   #
User ID
 
imagemeister wrote:
F3.5 + 2 stops = f7.1, 3 stops = f10



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Dec 11, 2018 02:39:05   #
User ID
 
Strodav wrote:
what about diffraction?


Of zero consequence. Just geek noise.

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Dec 11, 2018 02:48:19   #
Jsykes
 
Thanks

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Dec 11, 2018 03:42:59   #
Jsykes
 
Thanks

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Dec 11, 2018 04:28:58   #
Shutterbug57
 
IDguy wrote:
The masters of sharpness, like Ansel Adams, belonged to the f64 group.

Focus stacking isn’t easy. You have to know how to take the images and process them. Neither is trivial.


You do realize that Adams used a LF camera for most of his career - right?

As far as focus stacking goes, if you are shooting digital, it’s not all that hard. If you have a live view capable camera, it’s easy. Then there are the newer cameras that do the focusing for you and the in camera part is simply automated. The rest is software. Now focus stacking Adam’s 8x10, that ain’t easy.

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Dec 11, 2018 07:06:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Those are not full stops.


Said the cop as he wrote the ticket.

I've gotten into the habit of stopping at a Stop sign and counting 1-2-3 before I start. The cops here have a tendency to hide and catch cars that do not come to a full stop. My son got a ticket while leaving work at 11:00 PM. The cop who was in hiding said he didn't make a complete stop - in the mall parking lot. I went to court with him, and lots of people were there for the same Stop sign. "To Protect and Serve" Right!

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Dec 11, 2018 07:15:01   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
OK, here's an f/32 photograph. I'm sure I can find one take at f/64. It's just this one was easier to locate and I knew it was either of those two stops. If there is any diffraction, it's not visible here, or in the 16x20 print.
--Bob

Jsykes wrote:
Having problems with the (often published) recommendation(s) of how to "squeeze the maximum levels of image sharpness out of your lens by simply stopping your lens aperture down 2.5 to 3-stops from the lens's maximum aperture" i.e. for a lens that has a maximum aperture of f/3.5, the sweet spot of your lens resides somewhere between f/8 and f/11.

Using my 18-55mm kit lens and its' max aperture of f/3.5, two F stops would be f/4.5 and three F stops f/5.6.

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(Download)

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Dec 11, 2018 07:18:39   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
You are talking about landscape photography and in that particular area usually small apertures will give you sharpness from foreground to background. I am talking about f11 and f16.
The sweet spot of a lens is not necessarily an acceptable f stop for landscapes. I am sure you do not want to shoot landscapes at f4.5 although f8 could be acceptable depending on your interpretation of the landscape.

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Dec 11, 2018 07:51:31   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Jsykes wrote:
Having problems with the (often published) recommendation(s) of how to "squeeze the maximum levels of image sharpness out of your lens by simply stopping your lens aperture down 2.5 to 3-stops from the lens's maximum aperture" i.e. for a lens that has a maximum aperture of f/3.5, the sweet spot of your lens resides somewhere between f/8 and f/11.

Using my 18-55mm kit lens and its' max aperture of f/3.5, two F stops would be f/4.5 and three F stops f/5.6.

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Use whichever aperture is required for the desired effect. For landscapes, hyperfocal focusing will be beneficial too.



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Dec 11, 2018 08:00:13   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
User ID wrote:
Of zero consequence. Just geek noise.


Depending on the lens, your subject, and your distance from it, it can be more than "geek noise". But I agree that most of the time in most situations it's not really an issue.

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Dec 11, 2018 08:01:03   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Kiron Kid wrote:
Use whichever aperture is required for the desired effect. For landscapes, hyperfocal focusing will be beneficial too.


Very nice image!!

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Dec 11, 2018 08:08:11   #
alby Loc: very eastern pa.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Those are not full stops. See:
https://shuttermuse.com/f-stop-chart/

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interesting.... thanks

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Dec 11, 2018 08:12:25   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Jsykes wrote:
Having problems with the (often published) recommendation(s) of how to "squeeze the maximum levels of image sharpness out of your lens by simply stopping your lens aperture down 2.5 to 3-stops from the lens's maximum aperture" i.e. for a lens that has a maximum aperture of f/3.5, the sweet spot of your lens resides somewhere between f/8 and f/11.

Using my 18-55mm kit lens and its' max aperture of f/3.5, two F stops would be f/4.5 and three F stops f/5.6.

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Rules of thumb are really meant to be very general guidelines. And your calculations are off. F3.5 to F5 is one stop, F5 to 7.1 is another, and F7.1 to F10 is one more.

However, each lens is different and some peak out at maximum sharpness when stopped 2 stops down from maximum aperture, and others at 3 stops. Some lenses, like super telephotos - are best used wide open, and some actually suffer from closing down the aperture even one stop. The only gain would be in depth of field.

If your lens is a Nikkor AF-S DX 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR, then this review and MTF chart indicates that the best overall aperture for sharpness may be F8, but this must be balanced against your desire for depth of field.

http://www.opticallimits.com/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests/632-nikkor18553556vr?start=1

No lens intended for digital crop or full sensor cameras should be used at apertures smaller than F16 - yes, a general rule - but it is based on sharpness limited by diffraction and sensor size (which implies magnification when printing). it's the reason why crop and smaller cameras show negative impacts on sharpness from diffraction at wider openings than full frame and medium format cameras.

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