D810 Lens Decision - to return or not . (Page 2): 24 105 Sigma stabilisé, super après réglages précis avec le doc, sur un D 850. Louez pour faire votre propre expérience.

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24 105 Sigma stabilisé, super après réglages précis avec le doc, sur un D 850.
Louez pour faire votre propre expérience.

aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM

SafetySam wrote:

...I purchased a refurbished D810 with a refurbished Nikon 24-120mm 1.4G ED ...

I think you meant /b]1:4[/b] (f/4)

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... I soon found that the images were all "soft" ... even with using all adjustments in shooting and the D810 focusing adjustments, nothing changed, still not focusing sharp.

I'm not quite sure how to parse this. Does this mean you took the time to do a proper (and usually necessary) focus fine tune calibration? If so, do you have an sample images from the procedure?

For what it's worth, my 24-120/4 is by far my most used lens.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

Sounds like you need to do Auto Focus Fine Tune adjustments, have you tried that?

SafetySam wrote:

I have jumped back into photography after a 20 year hiatus and wound up doing so in a pretty major way . . I purchased a D7200 and assorted lenses last year (14-24mm, 35mm, 85mm, 70-200 and the kit 18-140mm) and had a great time shooting and learning but never was quite satisfied with the quality of images of a variety of subjects and the printing quality of larger prints was just not . . . .

Being a past Hasselblad user as a commercial photographer in the 70"s, I understood the quality of and wanted larger files to work with, and have now stepped up to the FF D810 with the 24-70 and the 70-200 (using the 14-24 purchased with the D7200), so I have a full range of lens capabilities . . .

For landscape, architecture, animals (not wildlife) and low key portraiture, I purchased a refurbished D810 with a refurbished Nikon 24-120mm 1.4G ED thinking that would be the only lens I would need starting off as a "walk around" lens and then add as needs arose . . I soon found that the images were all "soft" and not as sharp as the D7200 with the 18-140 kit lens, even with using all adjustments in shooting and the D810 focusing adjustments, nothing changed, still not focusing sharp.

I felt disappointed in the results and on a valued suggestion, purchased the 24-70 1.2 (non VR), and the images from this lens is so sharp it would cut paper !!! Nothing changes, just the lens . . (also added the new Tamron 70-200 1.2 - what a gem!)

NOW, I am planning on returning the 24-120 (already have the RMA) BUT every time I pick up the D810 with the 24-70 lens, I realize the "walk around" feature is probably a thing of the past . . . the size and weight is enough to stop my gym membership for upper body strength conditioning! (of course the D7200 is still the "walk around" solution!)

I still have the 24-120 packed in the box waiting to return, but have not sealed it yet . . . any suggestions or comments on why this lens is not as sharp as the reviews say, AND what I should do with this $550 "investment", return it?

Thanks - I look forward to reading the responses!

Sam

I have jumped back into photography after a 20 yea... (show quote)

olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida

Welcome back into photography.

My equipment is older and not as high caliber but I have experienced this: Some lenses just work better with some bodies, and some don't. One example - Tamron 18-270 DI II 72mm w/IS (not the latest version) coupled to my D90 is a fast focusing, sharp shooting machine, like they were made for each other - put that lens on my D3200, it hunts for focus, misses a lot, is slow, hard to get sharp pics on the fly, easier to manual focus, just flat out frustrating and disappointing. I cleaned all contacts on each, that had no effect, different focus modes, etc. I guess they just don't like each other!!

If I only had the D3200, I would have returned the lens, thinking it bad. Stays on my D90 all the time now....the 3200, go figure! Slap any of my Nikons on it and all is good. I have noticed this with other combinations, but this case stands out. Why - don't know. I do like having several different bodies to check lenses when I buy them!

Just my observation.

Lenf Loc: Strasburg,PA

Sam , I have a D 810 and a D 850 , both are amazing cameras , I love them both, I use a 24-70 tamron 2.8 and get crystal clear results , i use the 70-200 Nikon 2.8 also awesome, and a 200-500 Nikon sometimes with a 1.4 ex.
These cameras are the best , I keep them calibrated , sensors cleaned and tuned , and also have the Lenses calibrate with cameras , software updated . Since I have been doing that I have found quite a bit of noticeable difference in the quality of the photo. Otherwise it’s just my fault .
I use perfect image in Lancaster pa for this , excellent service well worth the peanuts to maintain these cameras. I just had a new Z7 for two months and it was great but failed miserably and broke on a photo event . I returned it . Nothing beats the photos from my D810 and the best of all is my D850 . Try having them calabrated , it just like keeping your car in time , so many photographers fail to do this.

cytafex Loc: Clarksburg MA

SafetySam wrote:

I have jumped back into photography after a 20 year hiatus and wound up doing so in a pretty major way . . I purchased a D7200 and assorted lenses last year (14-24mm, 35mm, 85mm, 70-200 and the kit 18-140mm) and had a great time shooting and learning but never was quite satisfied with the quality of images of a variety of subjects and the printing quality of larger prints was just not . . . .

Being a past Hasselblad user as a commercial photographer in the 70"s, I understood the quality of and wanted larger files to work with, and have now stepped up to the FF D810 with the 24-70 and the 70-200 (using the 14-24 purchased with the D7200), so I have a full range of lens capabilities . . .

For landscape, architecture, animals (not wildlife) and low key portraiture, I purchased a refurbished D810 with a refurbished Nikon 24-120mm 1.4G ED thinking that would be the only lens I would need starting off as a "walk around" lens and then add as needs arose . . I soon found that the images were all "soft" and not as sharp as the D7200 with the 18-140 kit lens, even with using all adjustments in shooting and the D810 focusing adjustments, nothing changed, still not focusing sharp.

I felt disappointed in the results and on a valued suggestion, purchased the 24-70 1.2 (non VR), and the images from this lens is so sharp it would cut paper !!! Nothing changes, just the lens . . (also added the new Tamron 70-200 1.2 - what a gem!)

NOW, I am planning on returning the 24-120 (already have the RMA) BUT every time I pick up the D810 with the 24-70 lens, I realize the "walk around" feature is probably a thing of the past . . . the size and weight is enough to stop my gym membership for upper body strength conditioning! (of course the D7200 is still the "walk around" solution!)

I still have the 24-120 packed in the box waiting to return, but have not sealed it yet . . . any suggestions or comments on why this lens is not as sharp as the reviews say, AND what I should do with this $550 "investment", return it?

My first 24-120 wasn't very sharp and I bought an older version and it's much better.

Thanks - I look forward to reading the responses!

Sam

I have jumped back into photography after a 20 yea... (show quote)

SafetySam Loc: Colorado

Bill_de wrote:

The D810 with the 24-70 is a great solution as a walk around. Between the walking and the upper body strength conditioning the heavy camera/lens combinations provides, you can give up the gym membership and spend more time taking pictures.

I never had a gym membership but I have come to love the feel of the D850 + battery grip, with the 24-70 Nikkor.

Good Luck

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SafetySam Loc: Colorado

rgrenaderphoto wrote:

It ain't easy going full frame; just wait until you hold a D850 with the 24-70 lens. That being said, I find the benefits of a full frame Nikon far outweigh the negatives. If you don't like the results of the 24-120, return it; it's not going to get any better for you. The only other addition would be the Nikkor 28-300, which is a great Fx all in one lens.

I will look at that lens. Thanks for the suggestion!

SafetySam Loc: Colorado

cameraf4 wrote:

Sam, keep in mind that Nikon produced 3 versions of the 24-120mm. The "middle" version has been called a real dog by many photo articles. You can recognize it by the RED "VR" letters on the lens to designate Vibration Reduction. The newer/better version has those letters in GOLD. If that is the zoom range you want, you should check that one out.

This is the latest version with the gold “VR”. Possibly a bad lens but solved the sharpness issue with the 24-70. Just disappointing when plans don’t fully work out.

SafetySam Loc: Colorado

treadwl wrote:

I'm 73 years old, next month. I currently "walkaround" with my Nikon D810 and the 24-70 lens is married to that body. I
want to take good photos and like you said the 24-70 lens is razor sharp. I'll carry the camera. If I was using a walker--I'm put the rig in the basked on the front. Just my opinion.

Thanks Larry, I turned 73 in September. Still work 50 hours per week and photograph on Saturdays and Sundays most weeks with 5 mile “walks” to do landscapes in the mountains.

Sometimes I wish for a pocket cam to lighten the load but all is good for now.

Thanks for the encouragement!!

SafetySam Loc: Colorado

denis.fr wrote:

24 105 Sigma stabilisé, super après réglages précis avec le doc, sur un D 850.
Louez pour faire votre propre expérience.

Gratze!

saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee

I have the d810 and the 24x120 f/4 lens that came with it. I have had no issues with this lens although I realize it is not considered one of Nikon's top of the line lenses (even though it is a "gold ring" lens). Feel free to take a look at my shots of the Palouse in eastern Washington that I posted earlier this year to see the kind of results I get with that camera/lens combination. Nikon puts out a bad lens every so often. Could be you got one. Don't delay. Return it.

SafetySam Loc: Colorado

saxman71 wrote:

I have the d810 and the 24x120 f/4 lens that came with it. I have had no issues with this lens although I realize it is not considered one of Nikon's top of the line lenses (even though it is a "gold ring" lens). Feel free to take a look at my shots of the Palouse in eastern Washington that I posted earlier this year to see the kind of results I get with that camera/lens combination. Nikon puts out a bad lens every so often. Could be you got one. Don't delay. Return it.

Beautiful landscape work with that lens. I MUST have gotten a bad copy as my results don’t compare to the sharpness of your work.

At this point with the already step up to the 24-70 I am committed. Maybe the opportunity to pick up another 24-120 will come in the future and I can try again. Thanks for your reply.

SafetySam Loc: Colorado

Lenf wrote:

Sam , I have a D 810 and a D 850 , both are amazin... (show quote)

Thanks for the advice. If this continues I will definitely pursue a calibration. With the cost of good equipment for the right job, it pays to keep them “tuned up”.

silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.

SafetySam wrote:

I have jumped back into photography after a 20 year hiatus and wound up doing so in a pretty major way . . I purchased a D7200 and assorted lenses last year (14-24mm, 35mm, 85mm, 70-200 and the kit 18-140mm) and had a great time shooting and learning but never was quite satisfied with the quality of images of a variety of subjects and the printing quality of larger prints was just not . . . .

Being a past Hasselblad user as a commercial photographer in the 70"s, I understood the quality of and wanted larger files to work with, and have now stepped up to the FF D810 with the 24-70 and the 70-200 (using the 14-24 purchased with the D7200), so I have a full range of lens capabilities . . .

For landscape, architecture, animals (not wildlife) and low key portraiture, I purchased a refurbished D810 with a refurbished Nikon 24-120mm 1.4G ED thinking that would be the only lens I would need starting off as a "walk around" lens and then add as needs arose . . I soon found that the images were all "soft" and not as sharp as the D7200 with the 18-140 kit lens, even with using all adjustments in shooting and the D810 focusing adjustments, nothing changed, still not focusing sharp.

I felt disappointed in the results and on a valued suggestion, purchased the 24-70 1.2 (non VR), and the images from this lens is so sharp it would cut paper !!! Nothing changes, just the lens . . (also added the new Tamron 70-200 1.2 - what a gem!)

NOW, I am planning on returning the 24-120 (already have the RMA) BUT every time I pick up the D810 with the 24-70 lens, I realize the "walk around" feature is probably a thing of the past . . . the size and weight is enough to stop my gym membership for upper body strength conditioning! (of course the D7200 is still the "walk around" solution!)

I still have the 24-120 packed in the box waiting to return, but have not sealed it yet . . . any suggestions or comments on why this lens is not as sharp as the reviews say, AND what I should do with this $550 "investment", return it?

Thanks - I look forward to reading the responses!

Sam

I have jumped back into photography after a 20 yea... (show quote)