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Nov 26, 2018 14:58:34   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Glenn Harve wrote:
Sensors keep getting better, no denying that. The main buggar to many is image quality and thus, for a given sensor size that too keeps getting better. At a certain point great is good enough.
Light weight and smaller size are all the rage. When one adds all of this up, 4/3 makes a lot of sense. The same holds true for DX. If one is in need of more tele reach, even more so.
Markets determine viability. If more folks want smaller lighter (cheaper) photographic tools and recognize image quality that meets their needs, it sticks around.
Cell phones certainly show that sensor size is not the whole story.
Sensors keep getting better, no denying that. The... (show quote)

Thanks very nicely stated🤓

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Nov 26, 2018 15:03:44   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
DrJ wrote:
Linda: Here is my rescue dog Buddy. I have 4 cameras and want another!
Sweet! I seriously hope I don't get the urge (what's that word again? ) to purchase another camera for a long time...

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Nov 26, 2018 15:07:24   #
PierreD
 
Just got a Panasonic Lumix g9 , great camera, does great work, but now I heard 4/3 will die? Can this
Be true????

The real question is: Now that 4/3 cameras are so competitive quality and price-wise, will DSLR die :-)?

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Nov 26, 2018 15:07:28   #
HughB Loc: Minneapolis MN
 
Delderby wrote:
Your pic says it all


And I love my M1 MkII also. and it will take me perhaps the rest of my active life to learn and use all of its software/firmware. In the meantime the camera and my 6 lens are having a wonderful time taking great, in my opinion, photos!

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Nov 26, 2018 15:25:42   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
PierreD wrote:
Just got a Panasonic Lumix g9 , great camera, does great work, but now I heard 4/3 will die? Can this
Be true????

The real question is: Now that 4/3 cameras are so competitive quality and price-wise, will DSLR die :-)?

Your camera the G9 is going to DIE!! But I can help I will take it off your hands for $500😆

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Nov 26, 2018 15:46:53   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
YOU might die if you make that offer to the wrong owner !! :) :)

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Nov 26, 2018 16:00:35   #
John O.
 
I know of one professional photographer who switched from full frame to 4/3rd about 2 years ago. That photographer travels the world and is well published.

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Nov 26, 2018 16:02:08   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
P.Beau wrote:
Hello,
I have been researching the M4/3 cameras for a bit of time and agree it is not on its way out w/all the offerings and new models out there from the major camera co. I do have a ? for those of you who use them. I do a lot of outdoor work, and that includes hiking in New England mountains. I am looking to get a lumix G-7 for the fact of its size in particular. How does it stand up when you do active hiking etc or a lot of outdoor situations. I know it is not sealed like my Pentax K is but any other issues? lastly kit lenses that come w/the G-7 14-42 & 45-150. I am taking a trip to Chile in March so treating myself to this camera possible. Thanks for any thoughts. Paul
Hello, br I have been researching the M4/3 camer... (show quote)


Hi Paul - i've been an amateur "G" fan since the G1. I don't do Vid, so after the G5 I stopped updating - 16 mpx is fine for me. I swapped my G2 for a G3 (also 16mpx). The G3 is the smallest of the G series. I also swapped my 45-200 for a 45-150 f4/f5.6 vari focal - I found it lighter and sharper overall. I have a 14-45 original kit lens from the G1 - once voted best kit lens ever. It might be worth looking for one on ebay. My other lens is a 35-100 - collapsible and tiny. The G3 and the 35-100 make a great all day walk around. The G5 with 14-45 is probably my favourite kit. No issues - everything reliable. I have a Meike dedicated speed light which is pretty good. These cameras with lenses attached fit comfortably tucked beneath an anorak (crossed shoulder straps, either side of back below shoulder blades) in adverse weather.

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Nov 26, 2018 16:25:52   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Bill Koepsel wrote:
Just got a Panasonic Lumix g9 , great camera, does great work, but now I heard 4/3 will die? Can this
Be true????


Love the Mr. Bill avatar! Oh nooooooooo!


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Nov 26, 2018 16:42:35   #
Bipod
 
Bill Koepsel wrote:
Just got a Panasonic Lumix g9 , great camera, does great work, but now I heard 4/3 will die? Can this
Be true????

Not according to Mr. Michiharu Uematsu, Ms. Emi Fujiwara and Mr. Taku Kariyazaki from Panasonic:
https://photorumors.com/2018/10/15/personalview-interview-with-panasonic-on-the-new-l-mount/

Panasonic says it sees FF and MFT format as different markets. It says it is planning new MFT products.
Of course it would say that---but in this case, the MFT cameras seem to have sold pretty well (although
Panasonic doesn't report sales by product line, so good numbers are hard to come by).

Nothing is certain in business, but to recreate the DMC-G line in APS-C format as L-mount
would cost Panasonic a lot of money and would be unlikely to result in a bunch of additional sales.

If anything, Panasonic's participation in the L-Alliance will tend to keep existing MFT product
prices lower--which is a good thing for consumers and will help keep sales robust.

From what I've seen with other manufacturers, Panasonic is probably not too thrilled about paying
L-mount licensing fees to Leica. I have no inside information, but I don't think it wants to put all
its eggs in the L Alliance basket.

Panasonic is a huge company with a lot of digital camera lines and as long as it stays in the digital
camera business, it's likely to have many lines.

Smart phone users who ware looking to move up to a digital camera will probably find MFT more
congenial than expensive L or similar products. As a very big company, Panasonic is looking for a
big market.

One question: why start a topic with a subject line that assumes MFT is dying: "is it dead? Or dying?"
you asked. Why the presumption? Repeating rumors in topic headings is not helpful .

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Nov 26, 2018 18:59:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DrJ wrote:
Dear burkphoto: I've enjoyed your posts over the years. I use cheap, made in China, adapters for $6-10 on my mirrorless cameras and don't mind MF. I shoot in aperture preferred mode and the camera selects the shutter speed. It makes me feel more like a photographer! Attached is a fall photo with my Olympus OM-D-E-M5 using a MF lens and $8 adapter. DrJ



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Nov 26, 2018 20:30:50   #
DrJ
 
Delderby wrote:
Hi Paul - i've been an amateur "G" fan since the G1. I don't do Vid, so after the G5 I stopped updating - 16 mpx is fine for me. I swapped my G2 for a G3 (also 16mpx). The G3 is the smallest of the G series. I also swapped my 45-200 for a 45-150 f4/f5.6 vari focal - I found it lighter and sharper overall. I have a 14-45 original kit lens from the G1 - once voted best kit lens ever. It might be worth looking for one on ebay. My other lens is a 35-100 - collapsible and tiny. The G3 and the 35-100 make a great all day walk around. The G5 with 14-45 is probably my favourite kit. No issues - everything reliable. I have a Meike dedicated speed light which is pretty good. These cameras with lenses attached fit comfortably tucked beneath an anorak (crossed shoulder straps, either side of back below shoulder blades) in adverse weather.
Hi Paul - i've been an amateur "G" fan s... (show quote)


Delderby: I agree with your observations and have had similar experiences. I had a Lumix G-1 and it was a pathfinder camera. I upgraded to the G-5 and the IQ is even better. I kept the Lumix 14-45 lens and it is indeed a fine kit lens. I borrowed my friend's Olympus OM-D-E-M5, which received dpreview's camera of the year award several years back, and it actually had better IQ than the G-5. Perhaps this is because of the in-body stabilization in the Olympus. I still have both. I read the reports in Photozone and looked for a used Lumix 45-150 but didn't win one on e-bay after several bids on different specimens. I stumbled upon a like-new Lumix 45-200 at a camera show and got it for a great bargain. I found a second Lumix 14-45 kit lens at a camera show so I have one for each of the Lumix G-5 and Olympus M5. The 45-200 is better than I expected. I also use several MF primes with these M4/3 bodies including the excellent Canon FD 50/1.8, 50/1.4; Olympus 200 f4 MC, and Tamron adaptall 90 f2.5 and 135 f2.5. DrJ

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Nov 26, 2018 20:45:00   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Four thirds has been dying for at least a decade, and will be dying for a long time to come. Olympus's new camera with those previously unavailable features and their two new lenses coming out in January will certainly pave the pathway to doom.

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Nov 26, 2018 20:50:31   #
jj56 Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
MrBob wrote:
May I suggest a good read... " Living in the Now ". Way Too much anxiety worrying about tomorrow; There is NO tomorrow, only the present. So go out and enjoy that marvelous camera you have and capture some of that Present.



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Nov 26, 2018 21:07:45   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
I have always thought that 4/3 referred to the width/height ratio of the image. What print paper sizes or image display sizes are compatible with 4/3. Two others, 3/2 and 16/9, face the same question. A common print size is 8 x 10, but no sensor size matches that without cropping.

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