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Nov 14, 2018 12:04:55   #
PeterBergh
 
robertcbyrd wrote:
... I am completely reliant on my Canon 80D, for which I have several nice lenses and I have been jonesing for a second 80D body ...


Murphy is a very powerful man. If anything bad can happen, it eventually will. You have to decide whether the loss of an entire shooting session costs more than an additional body. Personally, I'm in favor of wearing belt and suspenders.

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Nov 14, 2018 12:44:43   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
robertcbyrd wrote:
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite a lot of photos (around 1,500 to 2,000 per month). I am the de facto photographer for several music events in my area. (Note: I am frugal in not taking a lot of shots of the same thing.)

My current dilemma is this.

I am completely reliant on my Canon 80D, for which I have several nice lenses and I have been jonesing for a second 80D body and I found a great deal for a used one. The struggle is whether to pull the trigger on my retirement budget. (I can come up with the cash.)

It would mostly be a backup but would also occasionally be used for quick lens changes at various venues.

So, while I can come up with the cash, I am unsure whether I should.

I am sure that some of you here have found yourselves in a similar situation and my question to you is; how important is it to have a backup camera body in a situation such as I have described?

And, yes, I know, ultimately I have to make this decision. I am purely looking for advice from the experienced peeps here.

All the best and I love UHH.
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite ... (show quote)


If you are shooting for somebody else then get it.
This is from personal experience shooting classical music concerts.
Nowdays I shoot with two identical (except one is black) m4/3 bodies.

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Nov 14, 2018 13:04:46   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
robertcbyrd wrote:
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite a lot of photos (around 1,500 to 2,000 per month). I am the de facto photographer for several music events in my area. (Note: I am frugal in not taking a lot of shots of the same thing.)

My current dilemma is this.

I am completely reliant on my Canon 80D, for which I have several nice lenses and I have been jonesing for a second 80D body and I found a great deal for a used one. The struggle is whether to pull the trigger on my retirement budget. (I can come up with the cash.)

It would mostly be a backup but would also occasionally be used for quick lens changes at various venues.

So, while I can come up with the cash, I am unsure whether I should.

I am sure that some of you here have found yourselves in a similar situation and my question to you is; how important is it to have a backup camera body in a situation such as I have described?

And, yes, I know, ultimately I have to make this decision. I am purely looking for advice from the experienced peeps here.

All the best and I love UHH.
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite ... (show quote)


Robert, FORGET the second body. If your only camera stops working and you'll get sued because you don't deliver, you need a backup body! Amateurs don't get sued.
It's a waste of your money, like having two cars in case one breaks down but you're retired and no longer drive to work!!!
Use the money to get something that will make a DIFFERENCE in your photography, like a faster or wider lens!!
Cameras eventually can no longer be sold and become worthless, then you'll have TWO worthless cameras.
Unless, of course, they are making you MONEY, but then you wouldn't be an amateur!!!
Take yourself a nice photo trip instead!!! Good luck
SS

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Nov 14, 2018 15:58:12   #
TBPJr Loc: South Carolina
 
robertcbyrd wrote:
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite a lot of photos (around 1,500 to 2,000 per month). I am the de facto photographer for several music events in my area. (Note: I am frugal in not taking a lot of shots of the same thing.)

My current dilemma is this.

I am completely reliant on my Canon 80D, for which I have several nice lenses and I have been jonesing for a second 80D body and I found a great deal for a used one. The struggle is whether to pull the trigger on my retirement budget. (I can come up with the cash.)

It would mostly be a backup but would also occasionally be used for quick lens changes at various venues.
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite ... (show quote)


I still have a Canon 20D, but I never take it with me anywhere, and haven't since I took delivery of a Canon 5D Mark III in 2012. I use only my 5D III; I have considered buying another body more advanced than my 20D (whether a second 5D III, the 5D IV, or something else), but have not done so. In October, I went on a river cruise along the Danube, starting in Budapest. On my first afternoon of the trip, I was walking and taking pictures in the city; I got to one of the sites/sights I had hoped to photograph and decided I needed a wide-angle shot. I cleverly turned loose of my camera body while trying to change lenses--of course, I had taken the strap from around my neck, too. So, my 5D III dropped to the concrete sidewalk from just above waist height. There was no visible physical damage, but the LCD carried the message, "Err 20 Shooting is not possible due to an error. Turn the camera off and on again or re-install the battery." Of course, nothing helped. So, for the next eight or nine days, I either had the camera and lenses in my room or shuttled the gear from hotel to boat to bus--thus, no pictures. A second body would have left me with a better choice for pictures than my cell phone (but, in reality, I would have trouble carrying another body without getting rid of something--that limitation does not apply when you are in your own vehicle or just traveling in your own locale). The day after I got home, I went online to get Canon repair; I shipped it that same afternoon (on a Monday); by two days later, I had an estimate and I paid by credit card. My camera was supposed to be delivered to me on Friday afternoon, but I finally got it Monday morning (don't ask)--it had to have a new shutter assembly installed. So, although I got only a few pictures on my trip, I now have a 5D III with essentially no shutter actuations that also just has been checked by Canon factory service (I have taken a couple of hundred pictures since I got it back).

The point of this is that unforeseen events occur--to the extent that you are obligated (or even just determined) to get the pictures you need/want at your events without fail, you need to have a backup, whether it's a second body just like you are using, a previous model from which you have upgraded, or some other camera altogether. My waiting to get another body only leaves me disappointed when I lose the use of my camera--I am not breaching a promise or a duty to anyone else. Of course, if you are not obligated to someone else to get the pictures, then it is your choice/preference; if your are obligated to produce the pictures, you need to plan for damage to or failure of your primary camera and prepare an alternative.

I want to get a new camera--six years have produced some good advances--and I would be inclined to get the next 5D iteration (or perhaps a mirrorless when the Canon pro version hits the market) or even a 5DS r. But in any case, I would keep my 5D III (unless I get two newer ones) to be the backup/other choice, especially if I were operating as a photographer for hire.

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Nov 14, 2018 16:27:39   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
robertcbyrd wrote:
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite a lot of photos (around 1,500 to 2,000 per month). I am the de facto photographer for several music events in my area. (Note: I am frugal in not taking a lot of shots of the same thing.)

My current dilemma is this.

I am completely reliant on my Canon 80D, for which I have several nice lenses and I have been jonesing for a second 80D body and I found a great deal for a used one. The struggle is whether to pull the trigger on my retirement budget. (I can come up with the cash.)

It would mostly be a backup but would also occasionally be used for quick lens changes at various venues.

So, while I can come up with the cash, I am unsure whether I should.

I am sure that some of you here have found yourselves in a similar situation and my question to you is; how important is it to have a backup camera body in a situation such as I have described?

And, yes, I know, ultimately I have to make this decision. I am purely looking for advice from the experienced peeps here.

All the best and I love UHH.
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite ... (show quote)

You don't discuss your shooting style or the subjects of the photographs you take at your events. I do an occasional event, usually staged presentations. I find having two identical bodies with different lenses very helpful...one for the entire stage (or a major part of it) and one set up for individual performers or soloists. I can leave one set for overall stage framing and lighting and the other for the follow spot, which generally has a different color temperature. I can switch quickly between cameras. And is one should fail, I can fairly quickly make any necessary lens changes.

Your events and your approach may not favor using two bodies this way. But having the option might be very helpful lfor you.

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Nov 15, 2018 06:56:17   #
robertcbyrd Loc: 28754
 
Thanks for all of your advice.

I went ahead and got the second body. It has a lower shutter release count and came with two batteries. Glad to have it!!

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Nov 15, 2018 07:07:09   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
robertcbyrd wrote:
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite a lot of photos (around 1,500 to 2,000 per month). I am the de facto photographer for several music events in my area. (Note: I am frugal in not taking a lot of shots of the same thing.)

My current dilemma is this.

I am completely reliant on my Canon 80D, for which I have several nice lenses and I have been jonesing for a second 80D body and I found a great deal for a used one. The struggle is whether to pull the trigger on my retirement budget. (I can come up with the cash.)

It would mostly be a backup but would also occasionally be used for quick lens changes at various venues.

So, while I can come up with the cash, I am unsure whether I should.

I am sure that some of you here have found yourselves in a similar situation and my question to you is; how important is it to have a backup camera body in a situation such as I have described?

And, yes, I know, ultimately I have to make this decision. I am purely looking for advice from the experienced peeps here.

All the best and I love UHH.
I am a rank amateur photographer and I take quite ... (show quote)


Do you make any money doing this?? I think common sense would be your guiding light. That would be a greater value than anyone here would give you. Just to have something for the sake of having something does not make sense.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:11:58   #
delottphoto
 
Get it!

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Nov 15, 2018 07:13:43   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Is there a second lens that you'd like to be able to switch to quickly quite often? If so, get the second body for that purpose as much as for a backup. Never having to change lenses is a luxury. There are some nice straps out there designed for two bodies. Somehow I hope that if you're taking that many shots as the de facto photographer for several music groups that you're receiving some kind of remuneration. If you're doing this totally as a volunteer you might go to them and indicate that while you're providing photos for FREE....you do need some help in the cost of equipment. Hopefully these groups will be willing to come through for you.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:43:04   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Find a way to put it off, when the 90D or the 7DMkIII comes out you will again experience a new bout of GAS... There is no reason to purchase two of the same bodies, if you really can't get over it consider a Sony or Fuji mirrorless and explore the wonderful world of old cheap vintage lenses.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:45:41   #
ELNikkor
 
Usually in that situation, I would suggest getting the used 80D in excellent condition for a good price. The 80D is all the camera you need for your type of shooting, but it might help if you plan to pay for it with the money you make from shooting, that way, it justifies the cost.

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Nov 15, 2018 07:48:49   #
tmehrkam Loc: Houston,Tx
 
I had a back up camera in the film days. I ended up with the backup when my primary camera needed some warranty repair "Canon A1". I dropped it off for repair and there was a nice used AE1 in the case. I purchased that and had my backup camera. Neither camera gave me any problems after that and both are in my office just in case I need to shoot film.


In the film days backup camera made a lot of sense. I kept them both loaded with different film and used both all the time. With digital cameras ?

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Nov 15, 2018 07:49:45   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Zooman 1 wrote:
Get it, since you seem to be shooting one of a kind music events, a back up should be a must! Having a second body which uses the same lenses and batteries is a plus!



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Nov 15, 2018 07:58:31   #
kdogg Loc: Gallipolis Ferry WV
 
I have used two bodies since my film days both 35mm and medium format. I use one body with a prime lens and then other with a zoom. Never liked fussing with changing lenses in the field.
Now I use a 7D and a 7DII, I guess old have die hard.

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Nov 15, 2018 08:27:44   #
badapple Loc: Twin Lake, Michigan
 
Never steal money from your retirement budget! It will come back to bite you later in life. Save till the funds are available for the the backup you desire but don't tap into your future comfort.

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