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Nov 2, 2018 14:45:27   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
Navywife66 wrote:
The first mirrorless was in 2004. 2006 Nikon announced the end of production of film cameras..


Geeeeeeeeeeeeee, that's why they still make TWO FILM CAMERAS, eh ? The F6, which I own and use regularly, and the FM10 ????

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Nov 2, 2018 15:31:03   #
PH CIB
 
burkphoto wrote:
There are many great reasons to switch to Micro 4/3 mirrorless. Few of them have to do with sports and wildlife action, unless you record video. Still, there is the 100-400mm Leica zoom that has the effective reach of a 200-800mm f/4-f/6.3 on full frame!

For video, it's hard to beat the Lumix GH5 and GH5s for less than $3500, no matter what the form factor. Few dSLRs appeal to filmmakers more than a GH5/GH5s.

Everyone wants all the benefits of both Phase Detect (speed) and Contrast Detect AF (accuracy), and we want them in every focus mode on the camera. That just won't happen with any camera right now. Some are better than others, at some things. You have to decide what's important for what you photograph, and choose accordingly. Just as important as having the right technology is using its features appropriately.

Image "quality" is usually assumed to be some combination of resolution, size, color depth, noiselessness, sharpness, focus accuracy, desirable depth of field, i.e.; optical performance. But there is FAR MORE to owning and using a camera system than just that.

Most of the time, our images will wind up being viewed on screens. Very few prints are made in 2018, compared to 1998. We email, text, and share our images via a multitude of sharing platforms. Few of us want prints of family and family events, with the possible exception being the wedding album. For screen viewing, even a smartphone will make decent images, especially the latest ones with all their processing intelligence. For more advanced uses, there are several classes of pocket cameras and superzoom travel cameras. Then there are Micro 4/3, APS-C, and full frame interchangeable lens cameras.

Which to choose? There are no perfect cameras! There are only cameras that serve your needs, right now. Maybe you need and use several different ones, one at a time. Choice depends on hundreds of factors.

Lumix Micro 4/3 (a GH4 and three lenses) appealed to me for several reasons:

> I could replace a Canon EOS 50D still camera system and a Canon GL2 video camera system in two big Pelican cases with one Lumix system in a much smaller, lighter bag that fits under an airline seat. I pay fewer excess baggage charges, and worry less about equipment security — and going through security.

> Because of the age of my old gear, I could drastically improve video quality for the work I do (replacing 480P with Full HD and 4K for training content production).

> I have better audio quality and audio control for video than I had with the older Canon GL2.

> I have improved still image quality over APS-C (although in the context of what I do, that simply does not matter... it was already good enough for PDF, booklet, and eLearning media).

> I can often record 4K video and extract still images from it that are suitable for my uses, negating the need to make stills and video of the same content for use in different media.

> The gear works the same way for stills and video, because it is the same gear!

> JPEG images and video look the same, so I can insert stills into video content without a major visual difference.

> The combination of EVF and absolutely silent electronic shutter make surreptitious photography a reality. I can photograph a stage play without anyone knowing I'm doing so.

I could go on and on and on about the advantages of Micro 4/3 I never had with dSLRs or film. Mirrorless works well for me. It might not work for someone else. Use what you need. The camera market IS NOT a zero-sum game.
There are many great reasons to switch to Micro 4/... (show quote)


Well Said !!!

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Nov 2, 2018 19:48:34   #
East Banana
 
in the 90's they kept saying film is but all dead, digital baby ! that's where it's at .... now I see film being demanded and old film lens demand rising, small business ops opening teaching developing ....enlargers and kits bringing increased profits.....higher interest in film related questions..... sure mft is all but dead, and carrying around 85 lbs of gear is really in though right? dinky small lenses and small sensors, itty bitty cameras, packing a camera and 4 lenses in a bag my poodle could carry it's all so puny small~! Who needs tiny lightweight little dinky gear anyway?

Please contact me immediately I will safely dispose of all your dead M4/3 stuff free of charge call this number; (discrete confidential earth safe free disposal)

BR-549





"my sensor is exactly the same as your sensor, after that nothing is the same at all"

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Nov 2, 2018 20:06:24   #
ronz Loc: Florida
 
Shot a concert a few weeks ago for one of the sponsors. There was only myself and another pro who were shooting. After the concert ended a fan came over to me and ask me to look at his phone shots. He showed me two attachments (lens) he had just purchased to use and I must admit most were pretty good. Yes, I definitely believe the 4/3ds are gone. Glad I don't need to fight this for too many years as the 35mm may be next, well not too quick.

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Nov 2, 2018 20:34:18   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
ronz wrote:
Shot a concert a few weeks ago for one of the sponsors. There was only myself and another pro who were shooting. After the concert ended a fan came over to me and ask me to look at his phone shots. He showed me two attachments (lens) he had just purchased to use and I must admit most were pretty good. Yes, I definitely believe the 4/3ds are gone. Glad I don't need to fight this for too many years as the 35mm may be next, well not too quick.


Bet those phone shots which look good on a 2” square screen don’t look quite so good at 16x20

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Nov 2, 2018 20:44:17   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm in your camp on this one, TriX
--Bob
TriX wrote:
Bet those phone shots which look good on a 2” square screen don’t look quite so good at 16x20

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Nov 2, 2018 20:54:47   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm in your camp on this one, TriX
--Bob


Me too.

Andy

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Nov 2, 2018 23:00:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
East Banana wrote:
in the 90's they kept saying film is but all dead, digital baby ! that's where it's at .... now I see film being demanded and old film lens demand rising, small business ops opening teaching developing ....enlargers and kits bringing increased profits.....higher interest in film related questions..... sure mft is all but dead, and carrying around 85 lbs of gear is really in though right? dinky small lenses and small sensors, itty bitty cameras, packing a camera and 4 lenses in a bag my poodle could carry it's all so puny small~! Who needs tiny lightweight little dinky gear anyway?

Please contact me immediately I will safely dispose of all your dead M4/3 stuff free of charge call this number; (discrete confidential earth safe free disposal)

BR-549





"my sensor is exactly the same as your sensor, after that nothing is the same at all"
in the 90's they kept saying film is but all dead,... (show quote)


ROTFL!

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Nov 2, 2018 23:17:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TriX wrote:
Bet those phone shots which look good on a 2” square screen don’t look quite so good at 16x20


My wife put three 20x16 prints on our entrance hall wall, made from her old iPhone 5c images. From a normal viewing distance, 26” to 39”, they look fabulous.

If you pixel peep them, yes, the image breaks up a little. But only a snooty photo club judge would do that...

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Nov 2, 2018 23:36:56   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
burkphoto wrote:
My wife put three 20x16 prints on our entrance hall wall, made from her old iPhone 5c images. From a normal viewing distance, 26” to 39”, they look fabulous.

If you pixel peep them, yes, the image breaks up a little. But only a snooty photo club judge would do that...


So Bill, I guess then you could save some serious $ shooting all your still photos with your IPhone - is that what you’re using for your work?

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Nov 2, 2018 23:41:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
East Banana wrote:
in the 90's they kept saying film is but all dead, digital baby ! that's where it's at .... now I see film being demanded and old film lens demand rising, small business ops opening teaching developing ....enlargers and kits bringing increased profits.....higher interest in film related questions..... sure mft is all but dead, and carrying around 85 lbs of gear is really in though right? dinky small lenses and small sensors, itty bitty cameras, packing a camera and 4 lenses in a bag my poodle could carry it's all so puny small~! Who needs tiny lightweight little dinky gear anyway?

Please contact me immediately I will safely dispose of all your dead M4/3 stuff free of charge call this number; (discrete confidential earth safe free disposal)

BR-549

"my sensor is exactly the same as your sensor, after that nothing is the same at all"
in the 90's they kept saying film is but all dead,... (show quote)


Ha ha ha. Great reply. FYI I’m keeping my M43 gear. Not for sale.

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Nov 2, 2018 23:45:20   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
And the other thing to consider is TN has a very San Francisco American centric point of view. M43 is popular in Europe and Asia. Huh? There are markets outside the US? Surprise! Yes there are.

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Nov 2, 2018 23:49:01   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Navywife66 wrote:
No worries I just was quoted before as saying something I never said. It’s surprising to me that this happened to be honest. Having your words twisted and written by another is wrong but it is what it is. I have never seen him before to be honest and watched the whole video though. I really don’t believe that it will be a couple of years that the Dslr will be done with.. I believe it will take a much longer time span than that and even then because of all the lenses that will needs adapters? Ehh..it remains to be seen..thanks for your message. Have a wonderful weekend!
No worries I just was quoted before as saying some... (show quote)


I've been watching the Northrup's videos for several years. I have two of their books and their educational video series. I even purchased a Canon L lens from them. I find them to be very entertaining and from an educational perspective, technical proficient. But I've heard Tony say some pretty ridiculous things. I think he attempts to be trendy with his predictions but has often been way of target. One of the things I like about their reviews is they are not paid by the equipment makers. One thing I don't like about their reviews is Tony editorializes maybe a bit too much.

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Nov 2, 2018 23:56:10   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I've been watching the Northrup's videos for several years. I have two of their books and their educational video series. I even purchased a Canon L lens from them. I find then to be very entertaining and from an educational perspective, technical proficient. But I've heard Tony say some pretty ridiculous things. I think he attempts to be trendy with his predictions but has often been way of target. One of the things I like about their reviews is they are not pain by the equipment makers. One thing I don't like about their reviews is Tony editorializes maybe a bit too much.
I've been watching the Northrup's videos for sever... (show quote)



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Nov 3, 2018 00:37:17   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
JD750 wrote:
And the other thing to consider is TN has a very San Francisco American centric point of view. M43 is popular in Europe and Asia. Huh? There are markets outside the US? Surprise! Yes there are.


I'm curious about the meaning of, very San Francisco American centric point of view.
To the best of my knowledge, TN is from the Binghamton NY area and currently resides in Waterford Connecticut.
I know he use to write technical books for the IT industry but, San Francisco American centric?! What does that mean.

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