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Oct 12, 2018 12:18:43   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
JCullman wrote:
I am in search of a laptop model and configuration that will run Lightroom without the significant delays that I experience today. I am trying to avoid a desktop as I travel frequently.

I would like to cycle between photos in develop mode in 1/2 second vs the 4,5 or more that it takes now.

When I use a large diameter brush it brings the system to its knees.

Thanks in advance for the input.


For the speed you are looking for I would buy the computer with the fastest microprocessor, at least 16 Gb or more of RAM, a SSD and the fastest graphic processor available. The top of the line Macbook Pro will do the trick. If you want a PC, look to others for specific brand and model suggestions.

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Oct 12, 2018 12:48:23   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
JCullman wrote:
Thanks for your comments. Although I do find PS even slower, not sure why.


J, you may want to spend some time on the Puget Systems site. They custom build machines for specific tasks/budgets/software - This is a benchmark test for performance on a variety of platforms

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Lightroom-Classic-CC-Version-7-2-Performance-1110/

You'll find that multi-core CPUs are considerably faster than quad core, more ram does not translate into faster operation (for Lightroom), nor does a separate graphics card. LR does not use those resources much. But preview generation, exporting, and general editing will require a bit of number crunching, and that is why having a fast cpu with 6 or more cores is really going to make a difference. MSI, Alienware, Clevo/Sager and others offer such machines, but they will set you back >$3000, or higher. To my knowledge, Apple has nothing in this performance class at the moment.

This is an example of what I am talking about:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154888&cm_re=mobile_workstation-_-34-154-888-_-Product

There are faster, more expensive machines, but the can cost up to $11,000.

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Oct 12, 2018 13:03:59   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Gene51 wrote:
J, you may want to spend some time on the Puget Systems site. They custom build machines for specific tasks/budgets/software - This is a benchmark test for performance on a variety of platforms

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Lightroom-Classic-CC-Version-7-2-Performance-1110/

You'll find that multi-core CPUs are considerably faster than quad core, more ram does not translate into faster operation (for Lightroom), nor does a separate graphics card. LR does not use those resources much. But preview generation, exporting, and general editing will require a bit of number crunching, and that is why having a fast cpu with 6 or more cores is really going to make a difference. MSI, Alienware, Clevo/Sager and others offer such machines, but they will set you back >$3000, or higher. To my knowledge, Apple has nothing in this performance class at the moment.

This is an example of what I am talking about:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154888&cm_re=mobile_workstation-_-34-154-888-_-Product

There are faster, more expensive machines, but the can cost up to $11,000.
J, you may want to spend some time on the Puget Sy... (show quote)


If he were looking for a desktop, Apple's new bottom of the line iMac Pro at $4,995 has an 8-core processor, SSD, 16Gb RAM and everything else he needs for high editing speed for stills. If he is into complex video editing, the iMac Pro has models with 10, and 18-core processors that can set you back over $15,000.

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Oct 12, 2018 13:23:21   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Gene51 wrote:
J, you may want to spend some time on the Puget Systems site. They custom build machines for specific tasks/budgets/software - This is a benchmark test for performance on a variety of platforms

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Lightroom-Classic-CC-Version-7-2-Performance-1110/

You'll find that multi-core CPUs are considerably faster than quad core, more ram does not translate into faster operation (for Lightroom), nor does a separate graphics card. LR does not use those resources much. But preview generation, exporting, and general editing will require a bit of number crunching, and that is why having a fast cpu with 6 or more cores is really going to make a difference. MSI, Alienware, Clevo/Sager and others offer such machines, but they will set you back >$3000, or higher. To my knowledge, Apple has nothing in this performance class at the moment.

This is an example of what I am talking about:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154888&cm_re=mobile_workstation-_-34-154-888-_-Product

There are faster, more expensive machines, but the can cost up to $11,000.
J, you may want to spend some time on the Puget Sy... (show quote)


Alienware is a Dell product. You can get some awesome savings at their outlet, like this for $2,500 (additional 12% off with this code 12aliencw10):

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Windows 10 Pro
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16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 Non-ECC 2667MHz
15.6 inch UHD (3840 x 2160) 60Hz IPS Display
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Max-Q Design Technology
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Dell Outlet Alienware 15R4 Laptop

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Oct 12, 2018 13:44:51   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I would second storing your images on an external drive...As the HD gets full, it slows down seek time.

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Oct 12, 2018 14:24:18   #
JCullman
 
Thanks for the tips. Some have asked how much RAM so I’ll give you all relevant specs

Dell XPS 15 9560
Intel i7 2.8 GHz
16 GB ram
Graphic processor
Windows 10 Home
1 TB SSD

Hope this helps you guys help me. I’ll run some time trials to make sure our subjective descriptions of fast align.

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Oct 12, 2018 14:37:41   #
JCullman
 
First Open = 35 seconds
Develop Mode - next picture 4.0 seconds
Switch develop to library 4.0 seconds.

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Oct 12, 2018 21:45:50   #
MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs
 
JCullman wrote:
First Open = 35 seconds
Develop Mode - next picture 4.0 seconds
Switch develop to library 4.0 seconds.


My MacBook Pro has less memory (8 MEG) and slower processor (Intel i5, 2.7 Gig) and not using an external HD. 5 seconds to open. Relatively instantaneous going from Develop to Library and back. I have to believe there is something going on with your computer.

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Oct 12, 2018 21:57:42   #
JCullman
 
Thanks for the reference data. I will spend time on troubleshooting rather than shell out for a new machine.

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Oct 12, 2018 22:12:01   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
JCullman wrote:
It is about 1 year old. A Dell with graphics processor, 1TB SSD hard drive, and gobs of ram. I had Geek Squad tune it up also.

I shoot raw, so files are 40 mb each. Probably have 1500 photos.


Your lucky it even works after geek squad touched it. I have heard too many horrer stories, machines ended up worse.. and lost data.... your better of going to the local computer store that builds them and repairs them...... in fact i would start hanging out in their shop once in awhile and get to be friendly....... it just might pay.

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Oct 12, 2018 22:13:36   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bpulv wrote:
If he were looking for a desktop, Apple's new bottom of the line iMac Pro at $4,995 has an 8-core processor, SSD, 16Gb RAM and everything else he needs for high editing speed for stills. If he is into complex video editing, the iMac Pro has models with 10, and 18-core processors that can set you back over $15,000.


But he's not. And that makes your post irrelevant.

I was responding specifically to his request for a workstation-class laptop. No, Apple has nothing to offer him. For what it's worth, the iMac Pro, while nice, is still priced about 50% higher than the comparable PC. But this is not about PC vs Mac. It's about who offers a decent higher-end laptop to make Lightroom go faster. Unless I totally misunderstood the question.

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Oct 12, 2018 22:15:16   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
JCullman wrote:
First Open = 35 seconds
Develop Mode - next picture 4.0 seconds
Switch develop to library 4.0 seconds.


Sounds like you are creating large previews on import.

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Oct 12, 2018 22:16:05   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
You have enough to run ok.....it could be better but it should be faster..... what else do you have loaded and running, what do you have left for LR.


JCullman wrote:
Thanks for the tips. Some have asked how much RAM so I’ll give you all relevant specs

Dell XPS 15 9560
Intel i7 2.8 GHz
16 GB ram
Graphic processor
Windows 10 Home
1 TB SSD

Hope this helps you guys help me. I’ll run some time trials to make sure our subjective descriptions of fast align.

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Oct 12, 2018 22:20:19   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
External drives will have the same problem as they fill up, will they not. They are great for backup and portability though.


Screamin Scott wrote:
I would second storing your images on an external drive...As the HD gets full, it slows down seek time.

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Oct 13, 2018 15:00:31   #
nikonuser750 Loc: Monroe, LA
 
JCullman wrote:
Thanks for the tips. Some have asked how much RAM so I’ll give you all relevant specs

Dell XPS 15 9560
Intel i7 2.8 GHz
16 GB ram
Graphic processor
Windows 10 Home
1 TB SSD

Hope this helps you guys help me. I’ll run some time trials to make sure our subjective descriptions of fast align.


Specs look good. Other than it is a Dell which I don't like (my personal opinion) I have no idea why it would be so slow. I have a 4+ year old Lenovo laptop with an i7 processor but only 8gig of Ram. It does have a separate Nvidia graphics processor and a 1TB SSD HD. It runs like a champ.

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