Best Beginner DSLR - a Nikon, a Canon, or a Pentax?
Aug 31, 2018 19:43:38 #
My two cents worth is a Pentax K-1 FF. There are many lens out there to use at a reasonable cost.
Aug 31, 2018 20:05:32 #
The absolute best choice will always be the Nikon. When your beginner is ready to advance he will already be familiar with Nikon menus. Nikon is without doubt the best photographic company out. You should not even consider the other ones.
Aug 31, 2018 20:07:46 #
Chris T wrote:
What do you mean by "articulating lcd with night vision" ... is this a reference to a boost, or to LEDs near the fold-out point?
What do you mean by "articulating lcd with night vision" ... is this a reference to a boost, or to LEDs near the fold-out point?
This provides an inverted black-and-red color scheme on the lcd which is more suited to shooting in the dark -- reducing the screen's overall light output while remaining easily readable. Especially nice for astrophotography, but good for any night owls really.
Aug 31, 2018 20:49:51 #
A10 wrote:
My two cents worth is a Pentax K-1 FF. There are many lens out there to use at a reasonable cost.
Oh, yes, of course ... it's on my list, too ... as soon as I have about two grand, spare ... I'll grab one, A10 ...
But, it's hardly - a beginner APS-C DSLR, now - is it?
Oh, btw ... the lead post specifically mentions these four - Canon EOS Rebel T7, Pentax K-70, Nikon D3400 (D3500, too) and the Canon EOS Rebel SL2.
All are within the price range - of $600 ... mentioned later on in the thread ...
Still ... what a wonderful camera, eh, A10?
Aug 31, 2018 21:01:49 #
wetreed wrote:
The absolute best choice will always be the Nikon. When your beginner is ready to advance he will already be familiar with Nikon menus. Nikon is without doubt the best photographic company out. You should not even consider the other ones.
Reed ... my only problem with Nikons ... IS the menu system - which seems to go around in circles, forever and a day ...
In all honesty - I could never recommend it to an absolute neophyte ... far, far - too confusing ...
Having said that - I DO like Nikons - after all, I have five of them - more than any other brand ...
Perhaps, what I'll do - is let her play with one of each brand ... see which one she likes best, and then get her the corresponding pre-picked model ...
I think I'll let her play with the a58, first, then, the D3200, then, the T4i, and lastly - the Pentax K-50 ... the easiest - last ... think that'll work?
Aug 31, 2018 21:03:22 #
jburlinson wrote:
This provides an inverted black-and-red color scheme on the lcd which is more suited to shooting in the dark -- reducing the screen's overall light output while remaining easily readable. Especially nice for astrophotography, but good for any night owls really.
Oh, I see, J ... and, is that - especially - effective, do you think?
Aug 31, 2018 21:58:21 #
Chris T wrote:
Oh, I see, J ... and, is that - especially - effective, do you think?
Yes. You don't impair your eyes' night vision by staring at an overbright screen.
Aug 31, 2018 22:15:39 #
Chris T wrote:
Oh, I see ... harping on THAT one, again - are you?
Thanks ... but that's about three years old, now - right?
Only but the latest technology for my lady ...
Do you mind?
Thanks ... but that's about three years old, now - right?
Only but the latest technology for my lady ...
Do you mind?
It's your money.
Aug 31, 2018 22:34:43 #
If I were just beginning I would not buy a DSLR. I would get a mirrorless. These seem to be the future. At he moment Sony is clearly the leader in this area, especially for full frame cameras. I am sure others will disagree
Aug 31, 2018 22:56:22 #
jburlinson wrote:
Yes. You don't impair your eyes' night vision by staring at an overbright screen.
Well, now, J ... most DSLRs allow the user to turn UP the brightness of the LCD when it turns dark, or - even when you're outside, or - turn it DOWN ...
In fact, I don't think I have one, that doesn't have that feature - somewhere in the menus ...
And Pentax also has this Bright/Dark Warning feature - which can be turned on, or off ... it's yellow - so it shows up nice and bright, in the dark, too ...
My problem is I can never turn the damned thing OFF anymore - no matter whether the box is ticked, or not ...
I wasn't aware, J ... you could impair your vision by looking at an over-bright camera screen ... perhaps, the light on a copier ... but, camera???
Most use a 3" screen ... recent Nikons have 3.2" screens ... some beginner models have less - 2.5" or 2.7" ... how much can that hurt?
Aug 31, 2018 23:08:01 #
tropics68 wrote:
It's your money.
To tell you the God's Honest, Tropics ... if I went THAT route - I suspect I'd be a little jealous ... as I'm still dealing with a T4i !!!!
It's just not in the cards, anyway ... the lead post specified - SL2, T7, K-70 or D3400/now - D3500 ... all beginner cams - you know?
When I'm ready to get a new Canon for myself, I'm pretty sure it'll be an EOS 77D ... unless something better comes along, meanwhile - maybe - 90D?
A Beginner dig cam like the T7, and the Nikon entries - guides their users thru the settings on screen ... which'll be good for my lady friend ...
The only one of those specified - which blurs the bar a little, is the SL2 ... more advanced than she needs, really - but, still ... the K-70 is in that area, too, actually ... but, Pentax no longer markets anything below ... the K-S1, K-S2, and K-50 are all discontinued, apparently - whatever next?
Aug 31, 2018 23:15:31 #
Imagine you're out in the dark wanting to shoot some stars or something equally nocturnal. After a while of sitting around, your pupils open up in order to gather as much light as they can. You start to see a little bit better, don't you? If you then start gazing into a bright lcd screen, what do your pupils do? They close down in reaction to the extra light. Now how do things look when you turn away from the lcd screen?
Your vision isn't permanently impaired, no -- you're right about that. But your eyes do have to adjust and then re-adjust -- no?
Your vision isn't permanently impaired, no -- you're right about that. But your eyes do have to adjust and then re-adjust -- no?
Aug 31, 2018 23:20:45 #
greenhead wrote:
If I were just beginning I would not buy a DSLR. I would get a mirrorless. These seem to be the future. At he moment Sony is clearly the leader in this area, especially for full frame cameras. I am sure others will disagree
Greenhead ... makes perfect sense ... everyone seems to be saying mirror-less is the wave of the future - now, even Nikon's gotten on the wagon, huh?
Personally, I would not go that route ... I prefer to see subject matter thru the taking lens, rather than thru a complicated EVF ...
Plus, the expense - particularly, of the Sony FF MILCs - is outrageous ... and, certainly not in MY budget ....
The point of the post, anyway - is to discover what folks think is the best of those 4 DSLRs mentioned, in the lead post ... (T7, K-70, D3400/3500, SL2)
All of these - also - are either AT the $600 level, mentioned further into the thread, or well within it ...
The post seeks out the best unit - for a BEGINNER ... based on three DSLR systems - Nikon, Canon, Pentax ... as I have lenses for all of them ...
And once I choose and purchase one of these, I will give it to my friend, and she will then be able to use the lenses I have already ...
Aug 31, 2018 23:29:10 #
jburlinson wrote:
Imagine you're out in the dark wanting to shoot so... (show quote)
J ... I guess so, but I really don't pixel-pick - on an LCD, anyway ... all of my cameras have VFs ... and some of them, turn OFF the LCD - as soon as you put the VF to your eye ... when looking for a star to shoot ... I'd be much more inclined to be looking THRU the VF and on thru the lens ... couldn't IMAGINE doing it any other way ... what good would THAT do? ... I rely on my one GOOD eye, looking thru the VF ... if I look at the LCD ... then my bad eye also sees the images ... compromising the overall result ...
Sep 1, 2018 00:03:25 #
Chris T wrote:
J ... I guess so, but I really don't pixel-pick - ... (show quote)
It's totally up to you. You don't have to enable this function if you don't want to. It's just a little extra nicety that Pentax dreamed up. Lots of people like to chimp. Also, if the camera is on a tripod (as it very well might be a night), you might be using the articulating screen for your framing -- at least if your back is as bad as mine.
If this is a gift to a lady friend, you could point out this feature and say, "this will reduce the stress on those lovely eyes of yours. Nothing is too good for you."
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