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Aug 27, 2018 09:02:17   #
Steve DeMott Loc: St. Louis, Missouri (Oakville area)
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
https://www.dxomark.com/nikon-af-d-lens-reviews/


MTshooter is correct. Look at the list from Nikon https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/camera-lenses/dslr-lenses/index.page
Not one lens is listed as an AF-D. They all read AF Nikkor xxxmm Fx.xD. The D means that the lens can report focus distance info to the camera.

DXO used AF-D lens review in the headline then used the actual lens nominclature below the image.

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Aug 27, 2018 09:05:50   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
One more time: Regarding the "D"
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/tips-and-techniques/how-to-read-your-nikkor-lens-barrel.html
The letter "D" is mentioned after the fourth lens photo.

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Aug 27, 2018 09:12:32   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Ozzie2154 wrote:
I currently own a Nikon D5300. I am considering upgrading to a D7200 or D7500. My question is will my current lenses (Tamron 18-400 and Tamron 10-20 wide angle) fit on the new Nikon Z line. I also have the kit Nikkor lenses with my D5300.

Thanks!


With an adapter both yes and no. Your DX lenses are still DX lenses, the two Z cameras are in essence FX or what ever Nikon is calling FF for MILC.

Side note/question, how good is your Tamron 18 - 400mm? I have a Tamron 18 - 200mm for my Pentax cameras and the darn thing has some edge purple fringing in bright back lighting. Yet my cheap Pentax 100 - 300mm does not (even though it is plastic down to the mounting flange!). I've never seen a fringe or any sort of significant distortion with any of my real Pentax lenses.

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Aug 27, 2018 09:22:56   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Jaackil wrote:
????? Ha ha ha. You must have forgotten they also have the D500.

The 7200 is a great DX camera and anyone who buys one will not be disappointed it is among the best DX cameras Nikon has ever produced. But it is not the D500.
If you are looking in the Z price range and want a DX then the D500 is worth a look also.


Have both the D7200 and D500, both are excellent DX cameras and I like them both and yes, you are right, the D500 is worth looking at, but is more expensive than the D7200 right now. As I mentioned earlier, I trust DxOMark for reviews. The D7200 overall score is 87, D7500 is 86, D500 83. Yes, the D500 is much faster at 10fps compared to 6fps for the D7200, and the D500 has a higher ISO rating, so for sporting events, I take the D500, for everything else, I take the D7200. BTW, the D850 scores a 100.

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Aug 27, 2018 09:42:35   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Yes, with an additional $250 adapter, all F-mount lenses can be used on the new Z mirrorless bodies.


I suggest caution here. Nikon's FTZ adapter was designed for NIKON lenses. How well it will work with other brands is, as of yet, undetermined. If this is a hard concern, it's probably best to wait and see. Best of luck.

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Aug 27, 2018 09:56:11   #
aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Sorry but there is no such thing as an "AF-D" lens.
AF, AF-I, AF-S, and AF-P. The only one that will NOT autofocus on the Z bodies with the FTZ adaptor are the AF lenses.

Opps.

Maybe this page on the Nikon web site aids the confusion:

Nikon AF Lens Designation

What they say is in complete agreement with you MT Shooter, they none-the-less use the label AF-D. (And, AF-G!)

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Aug 27, 2018 10:01:22   #
jcboy3
 
cjc2 wrote:
I suggest caution here. Nikon's FTZ adapter was designed for NIKON lenses. How well it will work with other brands is, as of yet, undetermined. If this is a hard concern, it's probably best to wait and see. Best of luck.


Wait and see on everything about these cameras. Reviews are all against pre-production models.

Personally, since I picked up three additional bodies (Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic) in the past year, I will be waiting a while for a new camera body. And I want to see how well the issues with these cameras are addressed in the production models.

And most important, I want to see if Nikon releases firmware updates not only to fix deficiencies (necessary), but add features (nice, and quite unlike Nikon in my opinion).

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Aug 27, 2018 10:29:08   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Regarding the "D"
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/tips-and-techniques/how-to-read-your-nikkor-lens-barrel.html
The letter "D" is mentioned after the fourth lens photo. I post this with no comment one way or the other, purely as info about the letter "D".


This article states that the all recent Nikon lenses have distance encoders. The "D" designation, supposedly indicated "Distance" from my understanding, and was replaced by the "G" lens. I almost purchased a used Nikon 85mm f1.8 "D" lens, but decided that if I got a 85mm lens, I would prefer it to be a refurbished or used Nikon 85mm f1.8G. They were selling brand new from B&H with a $50 discount from $476 not long ago. Probably never again at that price for Brand New. A one time offer that was?

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Aug 27, 2018 11:02:24   #
hainesr007
 
Both of the two above answers are as accurate as you're going to get. They are both spot-on. But regardless, it is way more than worth the wait to explore not only the new mirrorless from Nikon, but also Canon and especially Sony which is way ahead of the Curve. Mirrorless is the wave of the future just like DSLR replaced film years ago. In fact Canon and Nikon both have hinted that they're not going to put much research into DSLRs moving forward but concentrate mainly on mirrorless, or any other new technology that may come along.

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Aug 27, 2018 11:24:58   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Ozzie2154 wrote:
I currently own a Nikon D5300. I am considering upgrading to a D7200 or D7500. My question is will my current lenses (Tamron 18-400 and Tamron 10-20 wide angle) fit on the new Nikon Z line. I also have the kit Nikkor lenses with my D5300.

Thanks!


If you are upgrading to D7200 or D7500, why in the world does it matter if your lenses will work on the new Z line cameras?

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Aug 27, 2018 12:25:32   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
hainesr007 wrote:
Both of the two above answers are as accurate as you're going to get. They are both spot-on. But regardless, it is way more than worth the wait to explore not only the new mirrorless from Nikon, but also Canon and especially Sony which is way ahead of the Curve. Mirrorless is the wave of the future just like DSLR replaced film years ago. In fact Canon and Nikon both have hinted that they're not going to put much research into DSLRs moving forward but concentrate mainly on mirrorless, or any other new technology that may come along.
Both of the two above answers are as accurate as y... (show quote)


This is Nikon's first attempt at a real mirrorless camera. I will give them credit for trying to tackle a new field for them. They have issues it appears from initial reviews. It took them a while to get a good DSLR. And remember that the original F was a home run. Allow a couple of iterations to get things worked out.
Also as far as Canon is concerned they have been doing mirrorless for a long time. What do you think Video is? Their 700 series cinema cameras have a greater dynamic range than the Vaunted Sony mirrorless cameras and the DPAF currently has no peer and is for mirrorless.
We are seeing new products with teething problems but in the transition to AF cameras we saw the same shake up until most all have finally adopted the in lens motor now. Who knows what innovations will die and which will survive.
Good start Nikon and I hope it gets better from here as competition is good for us consumers.

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Aug 27, 2018 13:27:53   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Charlie'smom wrote:
https://www.dxomark.com/nikon-af-d-lens-reviews/


Exactly. AF-D is an acronym used so people don't have to say or write "Autofocus Nikkor with Distance information." It's use seems to be pretty much universal and understood and refers to a specific series of Nikon Autofocus lenses that do not have a motor in the lens for focusing. I don't know why anyone would object to its use, but multiple users lately in different posts have objected to it. What's the objection to using commonly used and understood acronyms, or is that FUBAR.

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Aug 27, 2018 13:37:32   #
gwilliams6
 
Strodav wrote:
This is my personal opinion, please do your own research and do your best to pull out the facts in the middle of all the hype. I would wait on the Z technology for a while. Tony and Chelsea Northrup are very talented and very knowledgeable professional photographers and writers that are all about protecting their readers. I trust them on all things photographic. You might want to watch their pre-production review of the Z7 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUii9dTwPkw before pre-ordering your Z6 or Z7. IF you decide to go mirrorless right now, look at Sony, but then you would need new glass. If you are going to stay with a Nikon dslr body, I highly recommend the D7200. Its arguably the best DX camera in the Nikon lineup and you can get some really great deals right now as it has been replaced by the D7500. DxOMark.com, which is another organization I really trust, rates the D7200 above the D7500. Your Tamron 18-400mm (have one myself), and 10-24mm (sure it isn't a Sigma 10-20mm, which I also have) glass will work well with the D7200.

As far as F mount lenses working on Z bodies, my understanding is any modern F mount lens with its own AF motor will work on Z bodies with a $250 adapter that you can buy with a Z camera body. I know the 18-400 has its own AF motor, I am not as sure with the 10-24mm. Now, I have not seen anything about 3rd party lenses being supported with the adapter. Nikon only talks about the adapter supporting its own Nikkor brand, but I can't see why modern 3rd party lenses wouldn't work, but I believe both the Z6 and Z7 cameras are full frame (FF) and your two lenses are DX lenses so while they might work, they will not fill the entire frame. You will probably want new FX glass if you go Nikon mirrorless.
This is my personal opinion, please do your own re... (show quote)


Good post and advice. Jared Polin who was at the Nikon event in NYC , and was the only one who brought a third part lens (in F-Mount) to try with the FTZ adapter. He brought a Sigma 35mm lens in Nikon F-Mount and Jared said it worked fine with the FTZ adapter on the z-cameras.

But Just like Tony and Chelsea Northrup who were also there, they ALL have some serious reservations about these Z-cameras. They dont really live up to the hype or even live up to their listed performance specs. Do some research before you spend your hard-earned money on these cameras, and are disappointed. If you must have a Nikon mirrorless cameras, I would advice holding off until Nikon upgrades these in the next generation. Dont buy into the hype that is being done by Nikon and the big camera sellers. Cheers

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Aug 27, 2018 13:55:25   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Both the Z6 and Z7 are full-frame cameras. The lenses you have are for DX, so you may not get full use out of the bigger sensor.


Will they come out with a DX sensored mirrorless? Who knows?


Plus, using the Nikon adapter, you will lose additional coverage using DX lenses, more than what is currently lost mounting a DX lens on a DSLR FF camera because of the fact that the adapter acts like a teleconverter and lessons the angle of view. ie. if you mount a 20 mm DX lens on a FF camera the angle of view lessons to about 30mm, so, mounting this same 20 mm DX lens on a Z ff with the adapter, that 20 mm lens could end up closer to a 40 mm or even 50 mm angle of view.

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Aug 27, 2018 13:57:32   #
ChristianHJensen
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Yes, with an additional $250 adapter, all F-mount lenses can be used on the new Z mirrorless bodies.


Well that is a bold (and maybe false) statement. Sure they will physically fit the adapter but it remains to be seen if they communicate with the camera as they are off-brand lenses - I personally wouldn't make that statement before trying it out or seeing a thorough test done by others

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