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Aug 2, 2018 13:08:23   #
steve48 Loc: Richmond, Texas
 
When I am on vacation I keep a daily log of what I did so I can keyword LR properly and know where each photo was taken. On my last vacation I did that but didn’t put down the frame numbers due to time constraints. When I downloaded my photos to LR 6 it converted the .NEF files to .dng files, and changed the date to the download day!! Now I have to put the cards back in my camera to get the right frame numbers for each day down in my daily log. Frustrating!! Won’t make that mistake again.

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Aug 2, 2018 13:14:56   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
I have not seen this behavior in Lightroom, but I do not bother converting to DNG when importing RAW files anymore. With a Nikon D850, importing 400 images and converting to DNG can take hours. All I do now is Copy\Import and work on the native file formats.

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Aug 2, 2018 16:12:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Are you viewing by import date rather than capture? As rgrenaderphoto notes, LR operates on the RAW directly, so why are you creating DNGs? BTW - LR only operates as you instruct the software, so why did you convert to DNG? If you haven't moved far into the edit processing, you cand just delete (remove) the DNG versions and re-run the import with the corrected parameters.

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Aug 2, 2018 21:15:23   #
steve48 Loc: Richmond, Texas
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
I have not seen this behavior in Lightroom, but I do not bother converting to DNG when importing RAW files anymore. With a Nikon D850, importing 400 images and converting to DNG can take hours. All I do now is Copy\Import and work on the native file formats.

Okay, I see where I could just copy the files into the catalog. So I deleted the .dng files from my hard drive and tried to re-import the files as copies only. LR 6 (standalone version) is telling me I can't do this since the files are already in it's catalog. So what do I do now. I don't know how to delete files (1082) from the catalog. Is this a tedious, one by one process? What do I do now?

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Aug 2, 2018 21:54:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
steve48 wrote:
Okay, I see where I could just copy the files into the catalog. So I deleted the .dng files from my hard drive and tried to re-import the files as copies only. LR 6 (standalone version) is telling me I can't do this since the files are already in it's catalog. So what do I do now. I don't know how to delete files (1082) from the catalog. Is this a tedious, one by one process? What do I do now?


First, access the "All Photographs" view of the Catalog. Or, Previous Import if that was the 1082 was the last successful Import. Then select them all. If needed, find a filter view such as a Metadata filter on the capture date that identifies just these files to be deleted so you don't inadvertently select other files, then CTRL-A on a windows machine. Then <Backspace> and Remove from the prompt. You can also find Select All from the Edit menu when viewing the images in the Library module. You might also choose to sort by Added Date. Then, select the first image (click the image) and scroll up or down for the entire 1082 range, hold your <Shift> key while you click the ending image and the entire range should be highlighted / selected, then <Backspace>.

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Aug 2, 2018 23:12:42   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
steve48 wrote:
Okay, I see where I could just copy the files into the catalog. So I deleted the .dng files from my hard drive and tried to re-import the files as copies only. LR 6 (standalone version) is telling me I can't do this since the files are already in it's catalog. So what do I do now. I don't know how to delete files (1082) from the catalog. Is this a tedious, one by one process? What do I do now?


I'm guessing you deleted the files using your operating system (Finder on a Mac, not sure what Windows calls it). If you did this then LR doesn't know about the deletion and thinks the images are already on the disk. Can you actually open one of the deleted DNG files in the Develop module of LR? In any event, you need to delete the files IN LR before you can re-import.

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Aug 2, 2018 23:31:14   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
steve48 wrote:
Okay, I see where I could just copy the files into the catalog. So I deleted the .dng files from my hard drive and tried to re-import the files as copies only. LR 6 (standalone version) is telling me I can't do this since the files are already in it's catalog. So what do I do now. I don't know how to delete files (1082) from the catalog. Is this a tedious, one by one process? What do I do now?


Did you "unlink" the folder that contained the files?

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Aug 3, 2018 07:15:31   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
via the lens wrote:
Did you "unlink" the folder that contained the files?


If all the pics mention show as its own folder, delete the folder. If lr6 offers the option , choose remove from computer , choose it. Then re- import your photos.

PS. I do not convert to dng anymore either. If I was to I would keep a copy of the originals ( in my case nef ) on a separate external hd.

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Aug 3, 2018 08:34:56   #
akamerica
 
Recently I posed the question if using LR is worth the hassle of having to deal with the Catalog function that seems to cause so much grief and lost time. This is a perfect example when a slip of the mouse "locks" one up to diagnose and solve a software created problem. Windows has a wonderful file system however Adobe adds a file system within a file system with its own set of rules and penalties for failure to confirm.

I would love to use LR but without all the fancy-dancy file management nonsense I have avoided using Camera Raw.

Any way to use LR without all the obligations of Catalog???

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Aug 3, 2018 09:34:28   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
akamerica wrote:
Recently I posed the question if using LR is worth the hassle of having to deal with the Catalog function that seems to cause so much grief and lost time. This is a perfect example when a slip of the mouse "locks" one up to diagnose and solve a software created problem. Windows has a wonderful file system however Adobe adds a file system within a file system with its own set of rules and penalties for failure to confirm.

I would love to use LR but without all the fancy-dancy file management nonsense I have avoided using Camera Raw.

Any way to use LR without all the obligations of Catalog???
Recently I posed the question if using LR is worth... (show quote)


The catalog is the key to how the software operates. If you don't want to manage your images with a searchable database, no one is saying you have to. Choose any other software you desire. As said in another comment in this thread, the software does only what the human at the keyboard instructs the software to do. If the human does not want training, is too busy to do their homework or makes an uninformed choice when setting parameters during usage, that's the software user and not the software. Although we haven't heard from the OP on why they decided to use an DNG, the correction to the problem they posted is just a few keystrokes to undo the prior import. For an experienced and knowledgeable user, there was nothing about their issue that was 'grief or lost time'. There are hours upon hours of 100% free training available on utube and Adobe's site for how to set-up and use Lightroom. However, if you desire to sit down and play and think you'll learn by doing, this is not that software. Training shouldn't be considered grief or wasted time.

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Aug 3, 2018 10:00:08   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I use ViewNX2, which came with my camera, and can also be downloaded from the Nikon site. That permits a variety of ways to transfer and name files during transfer.
--Bob

steve48 wrote:
When I am on vacation I keep a daily log of what I did so I can keyword LR properly and know where each photo was taken. On my last vacation I did that but didn’t put down the frame numbers due to time constraints. When I downloaded my photos to LR 6 it converted the .NEF files to .dng files, and changed the date to the download day!! Now I have to put the cards back in my camera to get the right frame numbers for each day down in my daily log. Frustrating!! Won’t make that mistake again.

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Aug 3, 2018 10:04:00   #
thegrover Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
 
I agree, well said:
CHG_CANON wrote:
The catalog is the key to how the software operates. If you don't want to manage your images with a searchable database, no one is saying you have to. Chose any other software you desire. As said in another comment in this thread, the software does only what the human at the keyboard instructs the software to do. If the human does not want training, is too busy to do their homework or makes an uninformed choice when setting parameters during usage, that's the software user and not the software. Although we haven't heard from the OP on why they decided to use an DNG, the correction to the problem they posted is just a few keystrokes to undo the prior import. For an experienced and knowledgeable user, there was nothing about their issue that was 'grief or lost time'. There are hours upon hours of 100% free training available on utube and Adobe's site for how to set-up and use Lightroom. However, if you desire to sit down and play and think you'll learn by doing, this is not that software. Training shouldn't be considered grief or wasted time.
The catalog is the key to how the software operate... (show quote)

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Aug 3, 2018 10:34:18   #
GLKTN Loc: TN
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Are you viewing by import date rather than capture? As rgrenaderphoto notes, LR operates on the RAW directly, so why are you creating DNGs? BTW - LR only operates as you instruct the software, so why did you convert to DNG? If you haven't moved far into the edit processing, you cand just delete (remove) the DNG versions and re-run the import with the corrected parameters.


LR6 works fine with my Nikon d750 NEF files but to process in PS 5.1 and Adobe RAW, I need to convert to DNG. I don't PP enough to use PS cc. My question, how much raw info. is lost converting from NEF to DNG?

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Aug 3, 2018 11:25:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
GLKTN wrote:
LR6 works fine with my Nikon d750 NEF files but to process in PS 5.1 and Adobe RAW, I need to convert to DNG. I don't PP enough to use PS cc. My question, how much raw info. is lost converting from NEF to DNG?


The image portion of the data is unchanged. The header data that is specific to the camera is stripped and replaced with Adobe data. The RAW file that was available to the camera manufacturer's software now can be read only by software that can read DNGs.

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Aug 3, 2018 11:35:08   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
I have a micnova gps that attaches to the camera and records gps data to the EXIF file. It workes on both the d5500 and the D7200. Helps with I’d of where you are. I also keep a log but not very detailed

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