An Expensive lesson
Jul 28, 2018 16:12:58 #
OviedoPhotos wrote:
This is BS. Since I went digital in 2004 I've always reformatted the card in camera. When I'm done taking pics I place the card into my computer, a MAC btw, copy the card to the HD, and then reformat in the camera. I've had a couple of cards go bad but I usually keep a stock of cards anyway. Not once has a camera ever failed me, granted I usually get a new one every 4 years.
I never format card. Delete all in camera. Have for years. No problem.
Jul 28, 2018 16:30:02 #
Sometimes after hearing these "tech" people say what not to do, you say to yourself "Maybe I shouldn't use this camera ever!" lol. It's like if you listen to the different diets out there on what "not" to eat. You'd be left eating grass.
Jul 28, 2018 16:49:37 #
It seems to me, if all that told to the OP were factual, it would be common knowledge. In fact I believe I once read in some owners manual that you should format your card only in the camera and not on your computer. I am pretty sure if something that is commonly done by a whole lot of camera owners, caused damage to their cameras, it would have been "leaked" (disclosed) long ago. As my father used to say, "it sounds like a whole lot of Hooey to me". 
Jul 28, 2018 16:53:40 #
Since my original post, I spent some time with my A57: Going through the menu for the umteenth time, I ran across an error message that said something about the camera registry. I hit the main set button and the damn camera began to work again. Don't make me explain the exact message because I can't. Now I have the back-up camera that I have always wanted. I had already received a minty A65 body for a good price. The seller sent it with free 2 day shipping. Looks like we all wasted time here, but isn't that what forums are for?
Jul 28, 2018 16:56:55 #
Streets wrote:
A few days ago I powered up my Sony A57 and presse... (show quote)
What did Sony say about your problem?
Jul 28, 2018 17:16:07 #
Streets wrote:
Since my original post, I spent some time with my ... (show quote)
Good result and now you (and everyone else) know to avoid that “camera repair shop” like the plague.
Jul 28, 2018 17:24:40 #
burkphoto wrote:
I bought a Sony TV in 1982. I gave it away in 2009. It still worked, but needed a digital adapter, and I didn't want to bother.
I never had any trouble with it.
I still have a small portable Sony reel-to-reel tape recorder that works fine.
But PlayStations are another matter. We have a PS2 that died an early death.
It is important to note that Sony's camera division is an evolution of Konica Minolta, which was a merger of Konica and Minolta.
I never had any trouble with it.
I still have a small portable Sony reel-to-reel tape recorder that works fine.
But PlayStations are another matter. We have a PS2 that died an early death.
It is important to note that Sony's camera division is an evolution of Konica Minolta, which was a merger of Konica and Minolta.
Seems to depend on the particular product. I have 3 Sony 200 CD changers, a couple of VHS DVRs and a Super Beta DVR that must be at least 15 years old and are still working flawlessly, but I have have had a couple of their Beta VCRs fail (power supply issues), and I personally don’t love the “sound” of their receivers. I still have several of their point and shoot 4-6 MP cameras that are at least 10 years old, and last I looked, they still work - gave them to my grandchildren. Haven’t tried any of their recent high-end cameras, so can’t comment on those, but in general, their products are typically well engineered and reliable from my experience over 20-30 years.
Jul 28, 2018 18:20:20 #
TriX wrote:
Good result and now you (and everyone else) know to avoid that “camera repair shop” like the plague.
When all else fails, reboot! Reset to defaults! Zap the parameter RAM and reset the power manager on a Mac! Remove the backup battery and disconnect the main power source for at least 15 minutes!
MAYBE, if that doesn't work, you have a real problem...
Repair shops of all stripes can be sharks, trolling the waters for users who appear clueless. I found a Toyota dealer like that in my area. EVIL to the core. They'd make stuff up, break stuff, or do whatever it took to add hundreds of dollars to a repair ticket. If you find an honest one, tell all your friends. If you find a dishonest one, tell your enemies, too!
Jul 28, 2018 20:07:35 #
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Jul 28, 2018 20:32:43 #
Eric2018
Loc: Los Angeles, CA, USA
"Looks like we all wasted time here, but isn't that what forums are for?"
Ha Ha. How true.
And, ironically, what it came down to is the old adage, "read the manual."
I'm glad you got it figured out, learned some important info about one "repair" shop, and got the camera you had been wanting.
Ha Ha. How true.
And, ironically, what it came down to is the old adage, "read the manual."
I'm glad you got it figured out, learned some important info about one "repair" shop, and got the camera you had been wanting.
Jul 28, 2018 23:11:27 #
zzzynick wrote:
Sony builds planned obsolesce, into everything they make.
They build it to break. Look at all the dead play stations.
I wouldn't buy anything from Sony.
They build it to break. Look at all the dead play stations.
I wouldn't buy anything from Sony.
I think everyone does! If it lasts too long, they lose sales! NOTHING is made to last. They don’t make ‘enough like they used to.
I’ve been happy with every Sony product I’ve ever owned.
Jul 28, 2018 23:36:11 #
Off topic, but to address that mistaken concept of planned obsolescence, I’ll tell you who else makes rock-solid products besides Sony - Yamaha. I have a CR1020 reciever that I bought over 40 years ago, never had a failure, works like new and still makes distortion, power, S/N and sensitivity published specs. I have two more of their receivers, both over 15 years old, and one, which handles my TV audio, stays on 24x7. Both perform as new - now that’s what I call good engineering and excellent quality. And yes, I know this has nothing directly to do with photography, but just pointing out that there are manufacturers in the world (many of them Japanese) that make products built to last with no thought of planned obsolescence. And while I’m at it, I’d include Canon (never had a failure of any kind in over 50 years across many bodies and lenses) and Toyota/Lexus, just to name a couple more. In general, the Japanese seem to get “IT”.
Jul 29, 2018 02:31:06 #
nikonuser750
Loc: Monroe, LA
I did not "Quote Reply" because these are general comments on topics mentioned in this thread and not to those who commented. Unfortunately none of this has to do with the OP. 😕 Sorry.
As for all you who never format your cards but just delete, you might keep in mind that you leave a lot of fragmented files when you just delete. This does affect your read/write speeds. If you never shoot more than one shot at a time and you never do video, well maybe it really doesn't matter. ☺️
As for Sony reliability, they are a very large corporation with many divisions which are not all the same. Some of their products I like and some I don't. I personally don't like their computers. I had one with a known defect that showed up after the warranty expired and Sony would not help owners of that model. I still have my last Sony Betamax which had high quality sound and a great picture quality for the time. I've owned Sony Trinatron TV's from the 70's to current HD TV's. I've owned Sony CD players and a great Sony CD changer that I still use. I've owned Sony DVD and Blue-Ray players. All good products but I have had some of them stop working and had to replace them. It happens with all companies. As for Sony cameras, remember that as has been said on here, they came from Konica Minolta which is another division of Sony. Still another division makes professional video equipment. I said all that to say all Sony products are not the same. Some are of better quality than others and I believe you can say that of most large companies with many divisions.
As for all you who never format your cards but just delete, you might keep in mind that you leave a lot of fragmented files when you just delete. This does affect your read/write speeds. If you never shoot more than one shot at a time and you never do video, well maybe it really doesn't matter. ☺️
As for Sony reliability, they are a very large corporation with many divisions which are not all the same. Some of their products I like and some I don't. I personally don't like their computers. I had one with a known defect that showed up after the warranty expired and Sony would not help owners of that model. I still have my last Sony Betamax which had high quality sound and a great picture quality for the time. I've owned Sony Trinatron TV's from the 70's to current HD TV's. I've owned Sony CD players and a great Sony CD changer that I still use. I've owned Sony DVD and Blue-Ray players. All good products but I have had some of them stop working and had to replace them. It happens with all companies. As for Sony cameras, remember that as has been said on here, they came from Konica Minolta which is another division of Sony. Still another division makes professional video equipment. I said all that to say all Sony products are not the same. Some are of better quality than others and I believe you can say that of most large companies with many divisions.
Jul 29, 2018 02:54:33 #
Tracy B. wrote:
Sometimes after hearing these "tech" people say what not to do, you say to yourself "Maybe I shouldn't use this camera ever!" lol. It's like if you listen to the different diets out there on what "not" to eat. You'd be left eating grass.
Good analogy (to me anyway).
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