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Jun 3, 2018 07:50:40   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
Nikon1201 wrote:
In my camera club we are split about 50/50 on Nikon and Canon and 1 Sony . A friend who was a Nikon person lent me a camera when I was getting into digital and I liked so I went with Nikon , my friend I shoot with has Canon , NO DIFFERENCE IN THE QUALITY of the photos . The difference is Shutter speed , Aperture, and ISO and who uses it correctly , go to a camera rental and rent a Nikon for a few weeks then Canon , if that doesn’t work for you buy a point and shoot .


Try reading the post again.

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Jun 3, 2018 08:10:32   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
In your post you write: "I have been using Canon D5 IV for years with L lenses."... ???

This camera was only introduced into the market in Sept 2016.... For some reason, the word 'years' does NOT match your statement?? I am confused.

Then, like all the other posters... I would agree that Canon VS Nikon is a 'mute' point / question. There are many factors which cause one to 'appear' to be better, or NOT to be better.

Personally, I own the Canon D5 Mk IV, and 'Love.....' what camera is and what it does.. I also own the Canon 1Dx, the Canon 5Ds-R, and the Canon 5D Mk III (backup). I also own nine (9) of the Canon EF 'L' series lenses and some are much sharper than others... You have to know your equipment, and you should know what each does.....

Each of the above cameras have different qualities and should be used for different assignments and/or photo shoot session styles...

Having said all of of the above, ......... The Canon 5D Mk IV is a wonderful piece of equipment....... I would suggest you "focus" (pardon the pun) more on your skills, and the total techniques you use with your 'owned' equipment before spending thousand of $$$$ because you don't know what you already have.....

Keep Clicking and learn more to improve your work.....

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Jun 3, 2018 08:16:30   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
You're saying you know for absolute certainty that there is no fault with his camera.


Well, I own the Canon 5D Mark IV, with "L" lenses. I really like it a lot.

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Jun 3, 2018 15:09:42   #
IBM
 
imagemeister wrote:
I needed a few laughs today, so I decided to look at this post - I was not disappointed ..LOL 8-)


Hay master ,long time no see, Bram boy

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Jun 3, 2018 16:50:22   #
carolh810
 
I have always shot with Nikons. When my husband decided he wanted a good camera that also shot video, I told him we would buy him a Nikon D7000. Big mistake!!!! Everytime I wanted to use a lens, he was using it. So, now we are in the process of buying him good lenses. And, he has since moved up to a D7200. I will get even..my D700 is due for a replacement, so I am looking at buying either a D750 or a D850.

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Jun 3, 2018 20:54:54   #
coffeegrounded
 
I’ve been following Ugly Hedgehog for a couple of months now. Every now and then I’ll come across a post and simply shake my head at the comments that follow a person’s question. Arrogance is one thing, ignorance is another. This gentleman was asking a question, not unlike something many of us non-professionals might ask. What he received, right off the bat, was a barrage of knee-jerk reactions. I do admit that I did not read all of the comments. I was so appalled by the first replies that I wanted to wade out here into the quagmire embrace my poor unknown friend, and offer him some bandaids. Actually, I brought ice bags for all of the bruises received via the arrogant comments. Brush up on your manners, my friends, go back in time and remember when you were green around the edges. Otherwise, you’ll simply come off as a know-it-all.

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Jun 3, 2018 21:42:33   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
graybeard wrote:
That's right, just when people are having fun, shut things down. Throw us in prison why don't you ??

NO, NO, not prison, I just got out last month!!!!! LoL
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Jun 3, 2018 21:47:15   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
coffeegrounded wrote:

Otherwise, you’ll simply come off as a know-it-all.


But if everyone here IS a know-it-all, how else are they supposed to come off?!?!

SS

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Jun 3, 2018 22:24:21   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
SharpShooter wrote:
But if everyone here IS a know-it-all, how else are they supposed to come off?!?!

SS


Besides "Know-It-All" is a hard title to earn and you should be proud of it.

I once had a student walk into the classroom on the first day of school, she looked at her class schedule, looked up at me "I'm so-and-so's sister and you would be the history teacher she calls "The Know It All Who Really Does Know It All".

I had been teaching that subject for more than 20 years at that point so I had better know it all or give up.

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Jun 4, 2018 00:52:31   #
graybeard
 
coffeegrounded wrote:
I’ve been following Ugly Hedgehog for a couple of months now. Every now and then I’ll come across a post and simply shake my head at the comments that follow a person’s question. Arrogance is one thing, ignorance is another. This gentleman was asking a question, not unlike something many of us non-professionals might ask. What he received, right off the bat, was a barrage of knee-jerk reactions. I do admit that I did not read all of the comments. I was so appalled by the first replies that I wanted to wade out here into the quagmire embrace my poor unknown friend, and offer him some bandaids. Actually, I brought ice bags for all of the bruises received via the arrogant comments. Brush up on your manners, my friends, go back in time and remember when you were green around the edges. Otherwise, you’ll simply come off as a know-it-all.
I’ve been following Ugly Hedgehog for a couple of ... (show quote)

Street smarts are required when entering the subject of Nikon vs. Canon. Flying objects, switchblades and straight razors are some of the dangers. Reason and common sense are useless here. A large warning sign should always be posted: Enter at your own risk" !!

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Jun 4, 2018 00:58:25   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
graybeard wrote:
Street smarts are required when entering the subject of Nikon vs. Canon. Flying objects, switchblades and straight razors are some of the dangers. Reason and common sense are useless here. A large warning sign should always be posted: Enter at your own risk" !!

But I have a "Cannon", in fact two.

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Jun 4, 2018 03:07:51   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
graybeard wrote:
Street smarts are required when entering the subject of Nikon vs. Canon. Flying objects, switchblades and straight razors are some of the dangers. Reason and common sense are useless here. A large warning sign should always be posted: Enter at your own risk" !!


Perhaps reading the actual post would help too. It's not Nikon vs Canon. Many people responding here clearly haven't done so. Hence there is little actual reasonable advice, as nobody here actually knows what the issues are the OP is having.

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Jun 4, 2018 07:55:33   #
Dun1 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
The problem is more than likely not a result of a camera or lens problem. As earlier mentioned posting a sample of the some images you consider being out of focus might help you with your problem. If you wear glasses do you adjust the diopter to correct for the lens correction

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Jun 4, 2018 14:14:09   #
snapshot18
 
Not necessarily. I've owned both Nikon (film only) and Canon Digital (T2i), but never compared them to each other. I use Fuji S5 Pros (I have four of them) exclusively and take a lot of 'Flak' because of their low (12.2) Megapixel number. However, having an open mind and care MORE about Results ( as any Professional should) than specifications (or Rules, for that matter), I did test my Fuji against a Canon T2i (18.1 Mp) with a Tamron SP 17-50mm f2.8 lens. The Fuji had a Tamron SP 17-35 f2.8, so lenses should not be a major issue (Both same brand; both same max aperture; both approximately same/similar focal length (17-35 against 17-50). One would expect the Canon T2i, with 150% the number of Mps as the Fuji to be superior- at least in resolution. WRONG! See attached.
Image 1- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at max aperture of f2.8 at max tele setting. Make your own judgment.
Image 2- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at aperture of f8.0 at max tele setting. Make your own judgment.
Image 3- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at max aperture of f2.8 at max wide angle setting. Make your own judgment.
Image 4- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at aperture of f8.0 at max wide angle setting. Make your own judgment.
NONE of the images were retouched in ANY manner except for Red text ID typed in via Photoshop CS3.
Also, not only does the Fuji exceed the Canon in Resolution, it is also superior in both Contrast and Color quality and Saturation. Actually and under proper lighting conditions, the Fuji images are similar to Canon & Nikon images taken with a Circular Polarizer.
Bottom line: I'll buy a better camera when someone makes one )I haven't used the new Fuji mirrorless!)






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Jun 4, 2018 16:29:09   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
snapshot18 wrote:
Not necessarily. I've owned both Nikon (film only) and Canon Digital (T2i), but never compared them to each other. I use Fuji S5 Pros (I have four of them) exclusively and take a lot of 'Flak' because of their low (12.2) Megapixel number. However, having an open mind and care MORE about Results ( as any Professional should) than specifications (or Rules, for that matter), I did test my Fuji against a Canon T2i (18.1 Mp) with a Tamron SP 17-50mm f2.8 lens. The Fuji had a Tamron SP 17-35 f2.8, so lenses should not be a major issue (Both same brand; both same max aperture; both approximately same/similar focal length (17-35 against 17-50). One would expect the Canon T2i, with 150% the number of Mps as the Fuji to be superior- at least in resolution. WRONG! See attached.
Image 1- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at max aperture of f2.8 at max tele setting. Make your own judgment.
Image 2- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at aperture of f8.0 at max tele setting. Make your own judgment.
Image 3- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at max aperture of f2.8 at max wide angle setting. Make your own judgment.
Image 4- both cameras (Canon above Fuji) taken at aperture of f8.0 at max wide angle setting. Make your own judgment.
NONE of the images were retouched in ANY manner except for Red text ID typed in via Photoshop CS3.
Also, not only does the Fuji exceed the Canon in Resolution, it is also superior in both Contrast and Color quality and Saturation. Actually and under proper lighting conditions, the Fuji images are similar to Canon & Nikon images taken with a Circular Polarizer.
Bottom line: I'll buy a better camera when someone makes one )I haven't used the new Fuji mirrorless!)
Not necessarily. I've owned both Nikon (film onl... (show quote)

Well, if you did not post process them, then the Fuji camera did. Every Fuji image has unacceptable amounts of over sharpening as indicated by the very significant while halos around every character! The t2i is very long in the tooth, but having owned one I know its capable of much better results then you're displaying here. By the way, what model is your Fuji? To level the playing field shoot raw in both cameras and convert to jpeg without any in camera settings. Make sure all the settings are as equal as possible. The Fuji might still win, but what you are presenting is not a good test. If the Fuji results remain the same with the extreme haloing then it is either defective or not a very good camera and I would never want to use it.

Attached is an old image I took with the t2i back in 2011 using the EFs 18-55 II at f/4.5. That lens was an acceptable but generally mediocre kit lens. It was originally shot as a JPEG and this image represents a 100% crop of a small section of the original image, straight out of the camera. As you can see everything is almost tack sharp even at a 100% crop. Not sure why your images with your t2i look as lousy as they do, but its not a limitation or the fault of the camera.

t2i 100% crop of section of original image
t2i 100% crop of section of original image...
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