dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

I have had Adobe Cloud since its inception. As I understand it, Adobe is phasing out their stand alone product in favor of the Cloud. Please understand that you do NOT have to use Cloud storage. It is JUST available. I store all of my images locally. BUT, I do use the cloud to transfer images at times. The Cloud is almost a misnomer. Just think of it as a delivery device. All of my Adobe product is installed on my local computer. Speaking of that, by purchasing the Adobe Cloud, you are entitled to 2 active installs at a time. NOW, this does not mean that you can only have it installed on 2 computers... it just means that ONLY 2 computers can use it at once. I have it installed on 2 desktop computers and 2 laptops. If I "activate" one of my laptops, it signs me out of the desktops to free up licenses. I can always long into the second desktop again, or the other laptop. You can also, individually log out of one of the active licenses at a time... (if you remember to) in order to free up the license for the laptop or another computer. Doing this, really allows you to have it installed on as many computers as you want, as long as only two are logged into Adobe at a time.

By the way... I personally only use Lightroom Classic on the computer... the ONLY reason I would use Lightroom CC is on my cell phone.... or maybe a tablet.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Actually LR Classic has more features than LR CC

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

I have never had PS Classic Or Photoshop "Crash" and have been using both a lot for years. What is the nature of your many crashes?




when Adobe crashes (it happens more than you -- or they would like you to -- think)

thegrover Loc: Yorba Linda, CA

Great package and a bargain, your always have the latest Lightrooml Photoshop and Bridge. I use all three a lot. Use Lightroom Classic CC and you photos all are on your computer. All of my plugins work. It is important to learn and completely understand the organizational capabilities of Lightroom. It is important to use keywording and collections. You can also install a smugmug uploader in LR and it works great. Read https://www.lightroomqueen.com/

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

1. Thousands of UHH'ers use the Adobe CC photography plan.

2. It is wonderful. I've used every version of Photoshop since 1.0, and every version of Lightroom since 2.0 beta 1.

3. Yes, all the plug-ins you're used to work fine in Lr and Ps.

4. NO, you are not limited to cloud storage! In fact, if you use Lightroom CLASSIC CC 2018, you don't have to put anything in the Adobe Cloud at all! I don't.

Beyond your questions, there's something else you need to know:

Adobe used to have a product called Lightroom Mobile. They had another product called Lightroom CC. They had yet another product known as Lightroom 6.

In late 2017, they changed the names of what were Lightroom Mobile, Lightroom CC, and Lightroom 6:

• The product known as Lightroom Mobile evolved into the cloud-based Lightroom CC 2018, an entirely new product!

• The *stand-alone* Lightroom 6 is no longer supported. While you can still find it, its feature set is frozen as of 1/1/2018.

• The old *desktop-based* Lightroom CC evolved into Lightroom CLASSIC CC 2018, which is also the only real replacement for Lightroom 6.

Lightroom CC 2018 is the version that runs on phones, tablets, and computers, and is made to take advantage of the Adobe Cloud. If you don't want to work that way, you don't have to!

Lightroom CLASSIC CC 2018 is an evolution of both Lightroom 6 and the OLD Lightroom CC desktop software. Most advanced and professional photographers working on desktop and laptop/notebook computers prefer it.

The subscription includes several apps, including Photoshop CC 2018, Lightroom CC 2018, Lightroom CLASSIC CC 2018, and Adobe Bridge. Various plans are available, based on the amount of cloud storage you want to buy. If you don't want much (or any) cloud storage, the basic plan is $9.99/month US plus tax.

Lightroom Classic CC is a workflow tool designed by professional photographers for the most common professional needs. It is a COMPLEMENT to Photoshop. If you're a working pro and use Adobe apps, you need both. I spend 75% to 80% of my post-processing time in Lightroom CLASSIC, and 10% to 12% in Photoshop CC, and the rest in other apps. MOST of what I need to do to most images can be done in Lightroom. When I need layers, composites, masks, bitmap editing at the pixel level, filters not found in Lr, text, CMYK color separations, and other advanced tools, I send an image to Photoshop for finishing, then send it back to Lightroom for cataloging, exporting, web posting, or printing.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Adobe is NOT phasing out Lightroom Classic CC. Adobe has repeatedly said the opposite. Somehow the renaming to of the traditional file and folder based Lightroom to Classic and the dropping of "mobile" from Lightroom Mobile allowed pundits to believe there were signals in the tea leaves. Since the renaming noticeable feature updates have come to Classic. A few weeks ago they released an upgrade/update with some new features.

Another incorrect conjecture is that Lightroom CC (the one that stores your files on Adobe servers and once called "LR Mobile) is going to morph into a program that duplicates all the traditional features of Lightroom Classic (the one that stores your files on your computer). Adobe repeatedly has said they are being developed in parallel, but to aim at different needs and workflows. For example, Lightroom CC (server based) does not accommodate photographers that make prints on their own printers. Lightroom Classic (file based) has a complete and thorough Print module. Will Lightroom CC get a print module? If it does, what will it be? Adobe says that it depends on what user customers do and want to do with a server based system. If

Are Adobe products reliable? Do they crash? Of course. But, so far, never on my computer. Put it in perspective. Business journals report that Adobe has around 9 or 10 million subscribers to their CC plans. They all have computers with unique configurations and maybe some hardware issues or software conflicts. If you can find 1000 users suffering from consistent, repeatable crashes on any or all of the active forum or support sites, Adobe software is still 99.99% reliable.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

Yes, plugins will work in both Photoshop CC and Lightroom Classic CC. Most plugins are made for Adobe products. As far as the cloud storage goes, I don't have any cloud storage and will never use cloud storage. All my images are on my computer's internal hard drive or on one of several external hard drives. Aodbe's CC products confuse many people with the CC part of the name that implies "Cloud". In fact, "Cloud" has very little to do with this product. Your computer needs access to the internet at least once a month so that Adobe can verify that you are using the product on a correct number of machines and that you are who you say you are and that you account is up to date (paid in full). If you try to put the applications on 3 machines, it won't let you. If you don't pay, it will stop working. If you lose internet for more than a month, it will stop working. None of the Adobe applications are on the web, they are on "your" machine. And all the images are on your machine. If you decide to use some of the free cloud storage that they provide, you wouldn't edit an image from the cloud, you'd only store them there for future use or editing. You'd download that image to your machine, edit, then let their cloud store it again after you've edited the image. But the image would still be on your computer. The cloud would be a safeguard or backup of your content.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Lets start a rumor right here and now. Photoshop 2018 CC is going to be renamed Photoshop Classic and is being phased out to be replaced with the new Photoshop iA CC. It will use artificial intelligence to do everything for you. It will run in the cloud and come with a decoder ring that reads your mind's imagination. You won't need to have a computer, know how to type or even have a camera because your decoder ring will connect to your iPhone. It will do stills and videos. You will review your work on your 4K TV. It will be here before 2019 and all other Adobe imaging software will be phased out.

(I'm typing from a campground on the Washington coast and only had two cups of coffee so far. My mid day Lighthouse picture are not coming out with the expected glow. So I'm typing here instead of in Lightroom CC/Classic/Photshop/Topaz/NIK)

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

I rather find it dirt cheap, PS CC for under 10 bucks, I was just offered all Adobe applications (all 40 of them) for $39 a month, really got me thinking now!

tropics68 Loc: Georgia

I do not use cloud storage and frankly haven't any need for it. I back up on external drives. To each his own.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Personally, I don't love CC. It's quirky and slow compared to the old CS6 Photoshop and Bridge. I'm keeping both old and new though.

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

Us LR Classic it is the update to CS6

grichie5

I have used the Photo Shop and Light Room subscription for many months and have had no issues. I use Lightroom classic and store all of my files on a second hard drive in the computer. The programs are frequently updated, all included in the subscription cost.

I use both Topaz, Topaz Studio and Nik filters all of which work as plug ins.

The monthly fee is a bit more than the upgrades used to cost, but the programs are well worth the cost.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

I don't disagree that the Adobe programs themselves are the world standard indispensable software for photographers.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

If you open Lightroom CC on your system, you have the option of downloading to a folder on your local hard disk. The only way I use it is as a transition point between images modified on my iPhoe or iPad using the Lightroom app and my desktop Lightroom Classic CC.