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Apr 28, 2018 17:26:34   #
toptrainer Loc: Wellington
 
Its funny, they usually let me do what I want, and make an announcement "no photos from the parents until i'm done"

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Apr 28, 2018 17:27:31   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
rehess wrote:
OP used the words 'First Communion'; those words usually go with 'worship service', which conventionally goes with the words 'no flash'.


Traditionally, photographs taken to commemorate Confirmation and Communion events are not taken douleur the Mass. Individual portraits or group photos are made after the services.

At certain celebratory events, some churches allow some flash photography during services. It is best to consult with the clergy, in advance, as to permissions and restrictions.

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Apr 28, 2018 17:43:30   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
OP used the words 'First Communion'; those words usually go with 'worship service', which conventionally goes with the words 'no flash'.


Some priests do allow flash in the "First Communion". Back in 1979 my friend had his wedding at a church where the priest never allowed any flash but he allowed me to use the flash because I knew him personally very well. So you don't know what the OP situation is.

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Apr 28, 2018 18:08:50   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
BHC wrote:
One question. Bounced flash? Bounced off high ceilings? Thanks.


Depends on how high and the color of the ceiling and the power of your flash. Can you get in during the week and take some test shots? I have had good exposures of medium groups (12-15 people) in our church which has a vaulted, natural wood ceiling about 20’ in the center using a single Canon 600 EX-RT flash (guide# 60 meters) bounced straight up with the the white catchlight card extended. If I wanted even light over a larger group or the entire alter, I’d use 2 of the same flashes with umbrellas and remote triggering placed in the front corners of the church and pointed up at an angle, but each church will be different.

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Apr 29, 2018 05:43:03   #
miked46 Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
 
I have used my 70D all the time in church for photo's, and as long as I do not go above 8x10, I have got good results. I shoot at 6,400 ISO and your 2 bodies are supposed to be much better.

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Apr 29, 2018 05:48:30   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
toptrainer wrote:
What would be the best settings in a church for the camera if you were not using flash and if you were using flash? I have a canon 80 D and a Canon 6D. It seems like every time I try with or without a flash I still get grain. This happens when I am shooting the whole group of kids, when I do one at a time comes out great. By the way I was shooting a first communion.


If in Europe, many churches will not allow flash photography. The continuous little amounts of UV will slowly ruin paintings. Always obtain the right to shoot in a church. Next, you may need a more powerful flash if in a dark church. Usually the ceilings are too high to do bounce. If a more powerful flash is not possible, try getting closer to the subjects.

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Apr 29, 2018 07:07:04   #
coolhoosier Loc: Dover, NH, USA
 
rehess wrote:
OP used the words 'First Communion'; those words usually go with 'worship service', which conventionally goes with the words 'no flash'.


I've done many first communions with flash, but it depends entirely on the officiating clergy -- be prepared to go either way.

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Apr 29, 2018 07:37:30   #
Ray and JoJo Loc: Florida--Tenneessee
 
There are many lens, F 2.8, 1.8, 1.4 any of will do ISO >400 in low light, no flash and produce grate art

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Apr 29, 2018 07:54:32   #
HCB iii Loc: Delray Beach, Florida
 
You might try a very good recent article about photography in churches by Zoner, which I have tried to attach. I'm not very good at attachments, so if you do not get it, my apologies, but you can probably Google it. HenryB

Attached file:
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Apr 29, 2018 08:33:28   #
AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
rehess wrote:
OP used the words 'First Communion'; those words usually go with 'worship service', which conventionally goes with the words 'no flash'.


Good catch!

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Apr 29, 2018 08:51:54   #
coolhoosier Loc: Dover, NH, USA
 
Ray and JoJo wrote:
There are many lens, F 2.8, 1.8, 1.4 any of will do ISO >400 in low light, no flash and produce grate art


True, but at those f-stops you don't get a log of depth of field. Depending on what you want, you might need (want?) the flash. Either that of do as you need to with Auto ISO.

BTW, I'm not hung up on flash: I just shot a landscape at sunrise at ISO 1000.

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Apr 29, 2018 08:56:22   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
toptrainer wrote:
What would be the best settings in a church for the camera if you were not using flash and if you were using flash? I have a canon 80 D and a Canon 6D. It seems like every time I try with or without a flash I still get grain. This happens when I am shooting the whole group of kids, when I do one at a time comes out great. By the way I was shooting a first communion.


I've only used a flash in special cercumstances in church and then ONLY because the lens that I was using had a fairly high wide open aperture.. (f 4.5 or so). My 50mm f/1.2 does fine most of the time at ISO 100.

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Apr 29, 2018 09:08:04   #
jeffwheels
 
Just learning myself and would love not to use a flash which seems to ruin the color, especially the background. Do I just dial down the F-Stop or are there more settings I need to use in order to get good photos in poor light?

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Apr 29, 2018 09:13:16   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
ecurb1105 wrote:
Just lock your ISO to 100 or 200 and use flash. Allowing auto ISO can send your noise skyrocketing.
I shot a lot of weddings in the 1970s at ISO 100 and flash.


Many churches do not allow flash photography. An issue that wedding photographers often have to deal with. 400 speed film and fast glass are the solution.

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Apr 29, 2018 09:15:02   #
joseph premanandan
 
i prefer not to use flash to take a picture of the interior of the church.the ideal thing to do is to increase the ISO to 6400 if you need to.the modern cameras allow you to take images at a considerably high ISOs without producing digital noise.

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