6000 Days In Afghanistan/America's Longest War
Feb 20, 2018 21:40:14 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
America got involved in Afghanistan because of the Twin Towers destruction on 9-11-01 in NYC. Rightfully so. It is our longest War on record. The cost of that war has been $52 billion so far, and has resulted in 32 military rotations. And the costs are still mounting. Will there ever be an end to this dreadful War. A US Military General was murdered there. A first ever in that region. How can this war end. Or will it ever?
Feb 20, 2018 21:56:16 #
Feb 20, 2018 22:04:46 #
If GW had pursued Bin Laden instead of trying to prove to the the old man “I can take out Saddam” even though the old man told him not to get bogged down in a ground war in Iraq, we might not still be in that hell hole. We spent 8-9 years in Iraq before focusing on Bin Laden. Allowed Bin Laden time to build his Taliban forces while the US spent their resources looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. How did that turn out? What a waste of American blood and money.
Feb 20, 2018 22:06:36 #
jimdandy wrote:
If GW had pursued Bin Laden instead of trying to prove to the the old man “I can take out Saddam” even though the old man told him not to get bogged down in a ground war in Iraq, we might not still be in that hell hole. We spent 8-9 years in Iraq before focusing on Bin Laden. Allowed Bin Laden time to build his Taliban forces while the US spent their resources looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. How did that turn out? What a waste of American blood and money.
Amen! That
Feb 20, 2018 22:16:33 #
Ever read 1984? Viet Nam and Afghanistan could fit in that book perfectly.
Feb 21, 2018 10:57:23 #
The error is nation building. Islamists do not care or value democracy so trying to install our form of government is beyond foolish. It will NEVER work.
If I was king, my foreign policy would consist of; no meddling, non intervention and no nation building but if someone hits us we would wipe the earth's surface clean of their existence, no rebuilding, no aid. It would happen maybe once and then nobody would dare hit us again. And, since we aren't meddling, there would be no incentive to hit us other than a few decades of trailing anger for past meddling we have done. It wouldn't end the current blowback but would be a start down a path to eliminate the endless cycle of war this country has experienced. Any other policy has failed to date, and then there is that pesky definition of insanity that has also been ignored, especially when it comes to America's interventionist wars.
Meddling, something Progressives especially live and love to do, never has good endings and must be held in place by brute force of the State. Let's try liberty for a change.
If I was king, my foreign policy would consist of; no meddling, non intervention and no nation building but if someone hits us we would wipe the earth's surface clean of their existence, no rebuilding, no aid. It would happen maybe once and then nobody would dare hit us again. And, since we aren't meddling, there would be no incentive to hit us other than a few decades of trailing anger for past meddling we have done. It wouldn't end the current blowback but would be a start down a path to eliminate the endless cycle of war this country has experienced. Any other policy has failed to date, and then there is that pesky definition of insanity that has also been ignored, especially when it comes to America's interventionist wars.
Meddling, something Progressives especially live and love to do, never has good endings and must be held in place by brute force of the State. Let's try liberty for a change.
Feb 21, 2018 12:18:51 #
gmcase wrote:
The error is nation building. Islamists do not care or value democracy so trying to install our form of government is beyond foolish. It will NEVER work.
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Meddling, something Progressives especially live and love to do, never has good endings and must be held in place by brute force of the State. Let's try liberty for a change.
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Meddling, something Progressives especially live and love to do, never has good endings and must be held in place by brute force of the State. Let's try liberty for a change.
Well said but there are plenty of conservatives who think they can fix the world too. About thirty years ago I gave up on both of the corrupt old parties and went with the Libertarians. ( http://www.lp.org ) I have never regretted my vote since then.
Feb 21, 2018 12:36:35 #
WB9DDF wrote:
Well said but there are plenty of conservatives who think they can fix the world too. About thirty years ago I gave up on both of the corrupt old parties and went with the Libertarians. ( http://www.lp.org ) I have never regretted my vote since then.
I would argue they aren't really conservatives if they promote interventionism or meddling. The meaning of "conservative" has become so bastardized I usually avoid the term. The world really only has two types of people when you burn off all the dross. There are those who want everyone controlled (Progressives across the whole spectrum) and those who have no desire to do so.
As you, I long ago (50 years approximately) gave up on the two party system. If you look at what they do or accomplish instead of what they bloviate, both are simply different heads of the same snake. No matter which head is in power we get the snake's agenda, which is Progressive and anti-American in nature. Few exceptions though they do exist.
Feb 21, 2018 12:47:33 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
gmcase wrote:
The error is nation building. Islamists do not car... (show quote)
Easy to understand the emotions that inspired you to post this, and some of it is good, but overall not thought out that well.
Feb 21, 2018 12:52:43 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
WB9DDF wrote:
Well said but there are plenty of conservatives who think they can fix the world too. About thirty years ago I gave up on both of the corrupt old parties and went with the Libertarians. ( http://www.lp.org ) I have never regretted my vote since then.
A libertarian with a heart would be a liberal. As far as I can see the main difference is libertarians believe they are not their brothers keeper. I think that belief makes them much less human. Had we not been attacked would you have had us not interfere in WWII? (just a question)
Feb 21, 2018 12:56:04 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
gmcase wrote:
I would argue they aren't really conservatives if ... (show quote)
" There are those who want everyone controlled (Progressives across the whole spectrum) and those who have no desire to do so."
I think you meant: There are those who care about others(Progressives across the whole spectrum) and those who have no desire to do so
Feb 21, 2018 12:58:42 #
thom w wrote:
" There are those who want everyone controlled (Progressives across the whole spectrum) and those who have no desire to do so."
I think you meant: There are those who care about others(Progressives across the whole spectrum) and those who have no desire to do so
I think you meant: There are those who care about others(Progressives across the whole spectrum) and those who have no desire to do so
You couldn't be more wrong but you are very consistent.
Feb 21, 2018 12:59:34 #
thom w wrote:
Easy to understand the emotions that inspired you to post this, and some of it is good, but overall not thought out that well.
The same could be said about your response.
Feb 21, 2018 13:24:47 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
gmcase wrote:
The same could be said about your response.
I can handle it. Critique my response.
Feb 21, 2018 13:31:20 #
thom w wrote:
I can handle it. Critique my response.
Your response has no substance but only whimsical tripe. You aren't cogent enough to take seriously.
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