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Feb 10, 2018 12:16:03   #
Blurry
 
If you have a brick and mortar near you it is almost always better, even if it a little more expensive. You have a friendly face to look at, a person that knows you and your equipment, a place to make your complaints and know they are hearing you, and be able to watch someones reaction when you tell them how much you appreciate the great service and for being there when you need them.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:16:41   #
Shutterbug57
 
Larryshuman wrote:
Also all brick and mortar stores must pay a inventory property tax. So thats why no one has a good inventory ( one camera store) and has to order the item at the point of sale. Then you would be charges 7.5% sales tax (in Ohio) and end up waiting 2 weeks for your new camera or lens. I agree that the tax money paid to local government is a waste of funds. I receive absolutely nothing from the local government that I just paid 7.5% sales tax to.


You do realize that 5.75% of that 7.5% goes to the state - right? If your local government quit providing services, you might be surprised at the result.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:19:07   #
gpman
 
buy from adorama

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Feb 10, 2018 12:23:59   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
You do realize that 5.75% of that 7.5% goes to the state - right? If your local government quit providing services, you might be surprised at the result.


You do realize that most everyone here buys at least 90% of their goods locally so there is plenty of money going into the coffers the problem is once the money gets there it is not allocated to the proper places. My state does not have any business collecting a tax on an item they had nothing to do with.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:25:56   #
Shutterbug57
 
leftj wrote:
The reason most people dislike taxes is because of the wasteful government spending of our money. Aid to foreign countries that hate us, grants for the study of the sex life of a housefly and other such nonsense.


Except none of that was funded with sales taxes.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:31:39   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
What is really rich about this whole thread. In the attic he went off the wall not support this country. Is not paying taxes not supporting this country.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:31:49   #
david vt Loc: Vermont
 
Larryshuman wrote:
Also all brick and mortar stores must pay a inventory property tax. So thats why no one has a good inventory ( one camera store) and has to order the item at the point of sale. Then you would be charges 7.5% sales tax (in Ohio) and end up waiting 2 weeks for your new camera or lens. I agree that the tax money paid to local government is a waste of funds. I receive absolutely nothing from the local government that I just paid 7.5% sales tax to.


Really? Your kids don’t (or didn’t) go to school? You drive on dirt unmaintained roads? You don’t have fire, police, or ambulance service? You don’t have a library in town? The roads are not plowed in the winter? The town gets volunteers to cut the lawns on town property in the summer?

From your post, it sounds like you live in Ohio. Sure has changed a lot in the 8 years since I moved out!

Sears and Robucks ran the largest “shipping” goods service in world for decades. Probably the best correlary to Amazon today (you could even buy a house from them, right down to the last nail) in the pre-computerized world. They maintained a physical presence in every state and mangaged to compute, collect, and pay sales taxes before the age Cloud computing and the internet. Yes - badly run business whom failed, but businesses have been failing for all kinds of reasons forever.

My point is that if they could collect taxes back then, then taxes, when legally approved by governments, can be collected now. I begrudge every dollar I pay in taxes as I think that waste and inefficiency consume more than 50% of each dollar, but I pay it because it is my duty as a citizen of the country.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:36:57   #
marycar53 Loc: Tuscumbia Al
 
Alabama is considering a bill to collect internet sales tax.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:42:15   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Jakebrake wrote:
I have been a B&H customer for many years, and the reason being laser fast free shipping and no sales tax. This past week I received a letter from them stating they had notified the state of Colorado of my purchases which amounted to slightly over 3K. Now I know we are supposed to pay the state taxes voluntarily on our purchases from out of state businesses, but I believe not many do, at least I didn't until now. Being a Canon shooter B&H priced those items at list and the savings was in taxes. So, from now on I will make my purchases from my local brick a mortar store which is Mike's Camera in Boulder, Colorado (which is 9 miles away) and not have to deal with this when I file my state taxes. No problemo, and no more waiting around for the big brown truck, but has anyone else received a letter like mine from B&H? I shudder at the though of receiving a letter from Adorama!

This could be the best thing that has happened for local camera stores.
I have been a B&H customer for many years, and... (show quote)



Congratulations... Colorado has now been completely Californicated!

When I lived in Colorado, aside from the Peoples Republic of Boulder and a few other enclaves, the state was pretty conservative. Now it's very liberal and has to pay for all the entitlements somehow.

TECHNICALLY, you are breaking the state law by NOT reporting your out-of-state purchases and voluntarily submitting the sales tax annually.

Your post here incriminates you... hope that no tax collectors from Colorado are reading UHH!

Probably the State of Colorado has sued or threatened to sue B&H (and other major online retailers). I guess that huge windfall of tax revenue from legalized pot just wasn't enough for them!

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Feb 10, 2018 12:47:08   #
Shutterbug57
 
hangman45 wrote:
You do realize that most everyone here buys at least 90% of their goods locally so there is plenty of money going into the coffers the problem is once the money gets there it is not allocated to the proper places. My state does not have any business collecting a tax on an item they had nothing to do with.


Ok, so you want a ndw D850 with grip, D5 battery & charger along with a few memory cards. Pre-tax your tab hits $4,500. You can buy it from B&H for $4,500 out the door and owe your state $337.50 (@7.5%) and have to remember that at tax time or risk getting fines and penalties. Jobs are in NYC and you have not supported your local economy at all past paying the postman. Or, you could go to the LCS, pay them the $4,837.50 and not have to remember anything. If you have an issue, you can easily go back to the store and have them address/remedy the issue. You are also creating jobs locally with the camera store, landlord, utilities and other local businesses that support retailers. You also keep 5he $$ in your local economy and they get spent and respect where you live, not in NYC.

My LCS will match B&H prices and I gladly support them. I only mail order when the LCS doesn’t carry something and is not interested in getting it in. I would rather stimulate the local economy than Park my $$ in NYC. YMMV.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:50:08   #
Shutterbug57
 
amfoto1 wrote:
TECHNICALLY, you are breaking the state law by NOT reporting your out-of-state purchases and voluntarily submitting the sales tax annually.


Possibly true in CO. In OH, you are legally liable for the taxes. The state gives you an easy way to pay on your income tax return. It has been that way for several years.

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Feb 10, 2018 12:56:28   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
Bill_de wrote:
Or pay your taxes! It's about time something is done about tax cheats. Aside from denying your local municipalities the money they need to provide services, you cripple local businesses.

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Well, I don't think this issue has anything to do with "tax cheats". When I buy from Amazon or any other on line seller, they specify the terms of purchase, not me. If they say there are no sales tax or shipping costs, those are their terms, not mine. If I comply with their terms, just as I did when I bought my 850 from ProPhoto online, and they stipulate there is no tax or shipping charges, those are the terms and conditions of the purchase...and has nothing to do with me, or anyone else, being a tax cheat.

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Feb 10, 2018 13:01:27   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Larryshuman wrote:
Also all brick and mortar stores must pay a inventory property tax. So thats why no one has a good inventory ( one camera store) and has to order the item at the point of sale. Then you would be charges 7.5% sales tax (in Ohio) and end up waiting 2 weeks for your new camera or lens. I agree that the tax money paid to local government is a waste of funds. I receive absolutely nothing from the local government that I just paid 7.5% sales tax to.


How do you think your local police, fire, road department, etc., get paid? From taxes!

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Feb 10, 2018 13:03:29   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
hangman45 wrote:
You do realize that most everyone here buys at least 90% of their goods locally so there is plenty of money going into the coffers the problem is once the money gets there it is not allocated to the proper places. My state does not have any business collecting a tax on an item they had nothing to do with.


The law says they do. You are entitled to your opinion of course.

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Feb 10, 2018 13:17:59   #
Larryshuman
 
Fire, police are funded through property taxes and not sales tax. In fact the local schools, police and fire are all funded through property taxes, I have never been married, have no kids so why do I pay 66% of my property tax to the schools which stopped teaching cursive writing a couple of years ago? I would have no problem paying property tax for police & fire. I don't work any more, I don't files taxes so in everything I do I'm looking to avoid sales tax. When I bought my Nikon 200~500 lens I bought it in Indianapolis and avoided sales tax. When I bought my 600mmF:4 G VR off Fred Miranda.com and no sales tax here either. In my financial position I have to operate this way to costs down.

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