Social Security Raise? What a Joke.
Dec 26, 2017 23:40:38 #
Does anyone have any insight on why our government has not given a raise to Social Security benefits for retirees? It's been about 20 years.
As we all know who are retired the Government COLA trends always show that if SS recipients get a raise (no matter what the percentage) , then Medicare premiums go up approximately the same amount.
Meanwhile the cost of living goes up and up...food, gas, rent, premiums.
I wonder why no one cares that Seniors are dealt this crappy hand, when they paid into it all their lives. Shouldn't their existence matter?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I can reap back what I paid into the system that forced me to pay, but why is it that once we retire, our income stays the same while everything else goes up.
I know you're going to say I should have saved better - and I DID. We had a major medical crisis (actually two) that wiped out our savings. We are glad we have SS to lean on after all that, and that we are still alive. But I wonder why not a single elderly person who receives Social Security payments have not had an increase in their payments for at least 20 years (that I've researched.)
As we all know who are retired the Government COLA trends always show that if SS recipients get a raise (no matter what the percentage) , then Medicare premiums go up approximately the same amount.
Meanwhile the cost of living goes up and up...food, gas, rent, premiums.
I wonder why no one cares that Seniors are dealt this crappy hand, when they paid into it all their lives. Shouldn't their existence matter?
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I can reap back what I paid into the system that forced me to pay, but why is it that once we retire, our income stays the same while everything else goes up.
I know you're going to say I should have saved better - and I DID. We had a major medical crisis (actually two) that wiped out our savings. We are glad we have SS to lean on after all that, and that we are still alive. But I wonder why not a single elderly person who receives Social Security payments have not had an increase in their payments for at least 20 years (that I've researched.)
Dec 26, 2017 23:44:13 #
drainbamage wrote:
Does anyone have any insight on why our government... (show quote)
Oh ,I'm sorry...I just posted this in the wrong Topic - it was meant for General Chat, Not main Photography. My apologies.
Dec 27, 2017 00:28:11 #
Dec 27, 2017 00:58:50 #
Dec 27, 2017 06:06:12 #
Dec 27, 2017 06:27:40 #
The real truth is..... Seniors have no value and only drain the system. The Government wants us gone!
Dec 27, 2017 06:46:42 #
And this topic does not begin to touch why Congress has used the SS Trust Fund to finance deficit spending for decades!
Dec 27, 2017 06:51:09 #
Dec 27, 2017 07:14:23 #
Our Government does not exist for the people. It exists for corporate interests and for our "elected" officials (the only seniors which benifit).
Dec 27, 2017 07:20:38 #
Dec 27, 2017 07:30:05 #
drainbamage wrote:
Does anyone have any insight on why our government... (show quote)
Hmmm... I got a $32 raise in my SS.
Dec 27, 2017 07:30:40 #
Dec 27, 2017 07:40:29 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
I read all this nonsense and yet I will bet each of you grippers voted for the GOP!
Of course you are all wrong but ignorance is bliss!
Making Sen$e Nov 20, 2017 3:56 PM EST
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has announced that the 2018 premium for Part B of Medicare will remain at $134 a month. But even with no change, millions of Social Security recipients will pay sharply higher Part B premiums that will eat up all or most of next year’s 2 percent cost of living adjustment (COLA) for Social Security.
To explain why, let’s back up and explain some basic facts of Medicare. Part B covers insured expenses for doctors, outpatient services and durable medical equipment. (The other component of basic Medicare is Part A, which covers hospital and nursing home expenses.)
Increases in Medicare premiums can’t cause a person’s Social Security benefits to decline from one year to the next, according to Social Security’s “hold harmless” rule. About 30 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are not held harmless each year. This group includes people who have not yet begun receiving Social Security benefits, new enrollees in 2018, low-income people whose Medicare premiums are paid by state Medicaid agencies, and people who pay Medicare’s high-income premium surcharges.
Recent COLAs have been very small – zero in 2016 and 0.3 percent this year – so increases in Part B premiums were either eliminated or reduced for most of the 70 percent of Medicare enrollees who have Part B premiums automatically deducted from their monthly Social Security payments.
Those hold-harmless reductions will disappear next year for most people, with some or all of their 2 percent COLA increases eaten up by increases in their Part B premiums. The numbers here can be confusing, so please bear with me.
According to CMS, 60 percent of those who will be held harmless in 2018 (equal to 42 percent of all Part B enrollees) will pay the full Part B premium. In other words, the 2 percent COLA will generate enough increased benefits for them to pay $134 without reducing their net Social Security benefits.
For the other 40 percent of those held harmless (28 percent of all Part B enrollees), their Social Security COLA increase will not be sufficient to cover the entire Part B premium. They will pay a range of smaller Part B premiums, based on their 2018 COLAs.
To figure out how this will affect you, subtract your current Part B premium from $134. Then multiply your current monthly Social Security benefit by 2 percent. Your 2018 Part B premium change should be the smaller of these two numbers. Add this figure to your 2017 premium to determine what you will pay next year. Like I said, it’s confusing.
One thing is clear: Many Social Security recipients will receive little if any boost in their benefits next year. And while most of these folks have been shielded by the hold-harmless rule from paying the full Part B premiums in recent years, I don’t expect any of them to send thanks for this to the folks at Social Security and Medicare who came up with this system for determining Medicare premiums.
Here are other important 2018 benchmark numbers announced by CMS:
The Part B annual deductible will be unchanged at $183.
The Part A annual deductible will rise by $24 to $1,340 from $1,316. There is a separate deductible for each hospital stay, usually defined as being separated by at least 60 days during a calendar year.
The Part A coinsurance charge for hospitalizations lasting from 61 to 90 days will rise by $6 to $335 a day in a benefit period; for lifetime reserve days linked to longer stays, it will rise $12 to $670 a day. The coinsurance charge for skilled nursing facility stays lasting from 21 to 100 days in a benefit period will increase by $3 to $167.50.
People who have worked at least 40 quarters in jobs where they paid Social Security payroll taxes qualify for premium-free Part A. The Part A premiums for people with 30 to 40 quarters of coverage will rise by $5 to $232 a month. For those with fewer than 30 quarters, it will increase $9 to $422 a month.
The amounts of Medicare’s high-income Part B surcharges won’t change next year but the income brackets used to determine a person’s surcharge will be altered in a way that exposes more people to higher surcharges. The amounts of the Part D surcharges will decline slightly, but the change in income brackets will also expose more people to higher surcharges.
/www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/medicare-announced-its-premiums-for-2018-heres-what-you-need-to-know
Of course you are all wrong but ignorance is bliss!
Making Sen$e Nov 20, 2017 3:56 PM EST
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has announced that the 2018 premium for Part B of Medicare will remain at $134 a month. But even with no change, millions of Social Security recipients will pay sharply higher Part B premiums that will eat up all or most of next year’s 2 percent cost of living adjustment (COLA) for Social Security.
To explain why, let’s back up and explain some basic facts of Medicare. Part B covers insured expenses for doctors, outpatient services and durable medical equipment. (The other component of basic Medicare is Part A, which covers hospital and nursing home expenses.)
Increases in Medicare premiums can’t cause a person’s Social Security benefits to decline from one year to the next, according to Social Security’s “hold harmless” rule. About 30 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are not held harmless each year. This group includes people who have not yet begun receiving Social Security benefits, new enrollees in 2018, low-income people whose Medicare premiums are paid by state Medicaid agencies, and people who pay Medicare’s high-income premium surcharges.
Recent COLAs have been very small – zero in 2016 and 0.3 percent this year – so increases in Part B premiums were either eliminated or reduced for most of the 70 percent of Medicare enrollees who have Part B premiums automatically deducted from their monthly Social Security payments.
Those hold-harmless reductions will disappear next year for most people, with some or all of their 2 percent COLA increases eaten up by increases in their Part B premiums. The numbers here can be confusing, so please bear with me.
According to CMS, 60 percent of those who will be held harmless in 2018 (equal to 42 percent of all Part B enrollees) will pay the full Part B premium. In other words, the 2 percent COLA will generate enough increased benefits for them to pay $134 without reducing their net Social Security benefits.
For the other 40 percent of those held harmless (28 percent of all Part B enrollees), their Social Security COLA increase will not be sufficient to cover the entire Part B premium. They will pay a range of smaller Part B premiums, based on their 2018 COLAs.
To figure out how this will affect you, subtract your current Part B premium from $134. Then multiply your current monthly Social Security benefit by 2 percent. Your 2018 Part B premium change should be the smaller of these two numbers. Add this figure to your 2017 premium to determine what you will pay next year. Like I said, it’s confusing.
One thing is clear: Many Social Security recipients will receive little if any boost in their benefits next year. And while most of these folks have been shielded by the hold-harmless rule from paying the full Part B premiums in recent years, I don’t expect any of them to send thanks for this to the folks at Social Security and Medicare who came up with this system for determining Medicare premiums.
Here are other important 2018 benchmark numbers announced by CMS:
The Part B annual deductible will be unchanged at $183.
The Part A annual deductible will rise by $24 to $1,340 from $1,316. There is a separate deductible for each hospital stay, usually defined as being separated by at least 60 days during a calendar year.
The Part A coinsurance charge for hospitalizations lasting from 61 to 90 days will rise by $6 to $335 a day in a benefit period; for lifetime reserve days linked to longer stays, it will rise $12 to $670 a day. The coinsurance charge for skilled nursing facility stays lasting from 21 to 100 days in a benefit period will increase by $3 to $167.50.
People who have worked at least 40 quarters in jobs where they paid Social Security payroll taxes qualify for premium-free Part A. The Part A premiums for people with 30 to 40 quarters of coverage will rise by $5 to $232 a month. For those with fewer than 30 quarters, it will increase $9 to $422 a month.
The amounts of Medicare’s high-income Part B surcharges won’t change next year but the income brackets used to determine a person’s surcharge will be altered in a way that exposes more people to higher surcharges. The amounts of the Part D surcharges will decline slightly, but the change in income brackets will also expose more people to higher surcharges.
/www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/medicare-announced-its-premiums-for-2018-heres-what-you-need-to-know
Dec 27, 2017 07:43:44 #
Dec 27, 2017 07:47:03 #
Wrong on all accounts! Open your eyes and mind nd look at the real truth you are not being told.
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