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Nov 13, 2017 08:51:15   #
skornfeld
 
I've had a 7200 for about 2 years and think I've improved quite a bit during that time. I am an obsessed amateur and retired so I have time to shoot. I shoot mainly landscape and grandkids. Lately I've become enamored with daytime black and white landscape but think I'm somewhat restricted with the dynamic range and also the low light performance of interior grandkids photos. Usually handheld no flash since they don't pose or stay still. Would I notice a difference with the 810? I already have the nikon 24-70 and 70-200, both 2.8's so I already have fx lenses but would have to buy a new 50.

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Nov 13, 2017 08:59:59   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
In my opinion, the d810 or d850 would both be excellent choices. That said, I feel the d750 would fit your needs just as well, and at a lower cost. The higher mp's of the d810 is great if you are printing larger that 8x10 photos, but is not necessary for normal printing. The d750 is very similar in it's layout to the d7200, so a smaller learning curve. I know that a lot of users will disagree with my opinion, but I have owned the d750 for a while now and find the photos to be excellent and the camera to be sturdy and reliable. Good luck with whichever camera you choose.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:03:39   #
skornfeld
 
Thanks - the 850 is out of my price range and don't really need the fast and large buffer as the only sports I shoot are grandkids outside. I've seen used/refurbished 810s for around $2k. I was thinking 810 over 750 for better low light and no anti-alias filter?

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Nov 13, 2017 09:10:27   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Full frame cameras such as the D810, are generally better in low light than a crop sensor. You have a D7200, along with two incredible lenses. Both f2.8. The New D850 is a better camera than the D7200. But, I would try first, to make what you have already, to work better for you. Before investing $3300 in a New D850. Yes, you do have your FX lenses if you switch. An advantage you have from the start. Good luck.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:11:47   #
petercbrandt Loc: New York City, Manhattan
 
I agree with Orrie. But I'd like to add that more megapixels aren't alway necessary for blow ups. There are plenty of programs available to interpolate images for bigger prints: BlowUp by Aleinskin is one that I have and works really well. Back when I bought my first full frame DSLR, a Fuji S2 Pro (6.2 mp) I did a shoot for a NYC architectural firm, (Beyer Blinder, Belle) to capture an abstract of a building facade for a blowup print behind the lobby front desk up to 30"x40" and it looked GREAT !
So it depends what the print's end use is. The print was sharp but not the same way as shot with a 4x5 camera.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:17:18   #
Curve_in Loc: Virginia
 
I'd just up the ISO into the 800+ range and look into some post production to get a handle on grain. Carting around bigger bodies and bigger lenses doesn't sound like a good direction. If you shoot in RAW, there is plenty of dynamic range for you to get a fantastic image.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:19:44   #
67skylark27 Loc: Fort Atkinson, WI
 
Curve_in wrote:
I'd just up the ISO into the 800+ range and look into some post production to get a handle on grain. Carting around bigger bodies and bigger lenses doesn't sound like a good direction. If you shoot in RAW, there is plenty of dynamic range for you to get a fantastic image.


Yes, this.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:21:09   #
bratliff Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
I went from my d7100 to a d810 a while back and the d810 is a huge improvement. That said, buy a flash for interior shots. Even with the improved low light, a good flash is much more effective at getting the shot than just going full frame. The d810 files are very malleable and you can clean them up a lot but get a flash for indoor work. For landscapes, I personally don't think you can get a better camera than the d810 (aside from possible the d850 which I haven't shot) without going medium format. The only downside I ever experienced is shooting from live view on the Nikon is painful. Unless you have a bunch of high quality Nikon full frame glass you might also want to consider the Sony A7Rii. Same sensor and virtually the same dynamic range but mirrorless so no worrying about have to focus tune your lenses and better live view performance. With the iii coming out the prices for the ii are coming down.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:25:44   #
petercbrandt Loc: New York City, Manhattan
 
Flash changes the mood of the environment, even if you bounce light. Flash ruins the idea of shooting available light.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:30:12   #
CO
 
For your interior shots you really need to get an external flash. Upgrading to a D810 won't really do anything more for you there. If the room has a white ceiling you can bounce flash for softer light. You can also get a light stand, swivel umbrella bracket, and umbrella for softer light.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:31:41   #
skornfeld
 
I do a flash for off camera and use it for portraits when I can get them to standstill. For others the 850 is off the table unless I win the lottery. I have raised the ISO but I'm not happy with quality above 1000, even though I do shoot raw and use ACR and photoshop. The added weight of fx doesn't bother me too much. I have too much money invested in glass to switch brands. Complexity of camera doesn't scare me as I'm a bit a a nerd and enjoy learning.

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Nov 13, 2017 09:32:11   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
i moved from a D7000 to the D810. I do mostly action nature and landscape. It is an excellent camera and would be a big improvement for you. There are plenty on the market now. Try Cameta Camera for a refurbished one with a one year warranty.

Rick

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Nov 13, 2017 10:19:02   #
wolfman
 
skornfeld wrote:
Thanks - the 850 is out of my price range and don't really need the fast and large buffer as the only sports I shoot are grandkids outside. I've seen used/refurbished 810s for around $2k. I was thinking 810 over 750 for better low light and no anti-alias filter?


Here's some D810's

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-nikon-digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d810/

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Nov 13, 2017 10:29:07   #
skornfeld
 


Never bought from them - like that they give shutter count and describe condition. Will they tell you if USA model?

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Nov 13, 2017 11:10:21   #
wolfman
 
skornfeld wrote:
Never bought from them - like that they give shutter count and describe condition. Will they tell you if USA model?


All the serial numbers shown in the images start with 3, which designates USA.

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