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Sep 23, 2017 12:31:31   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Cell phones are used a lot today to live stream on Facebook...

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Todd Ferguson

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Sep 23, 2017 12:38:39   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
I worked as a press photographer in New York City and Montreal. In New York, "Working Press" credentials were issued by the police department, however, many amateur and professional athletic organizations and venues required specific accreditation to their events. Vests, ID tags and other visible means of identification were issued to authorized photographer and journalists. Up here in Canada, many governmental events like visits form foreign dignitaries also require security clearance and special passes, pins or ID tags even for full-time media folks.

With today's security measures, even at sports and entertainment events, anyone trying to pass themselves off as as an authorized person without the paperwork and required "uniform", may end up in the jailhouse- at least for the afternoon.

If you want to cover an event, seek out the proper permission. Even freelancers can be granted credentials in many cases- especially if photography is a significant part of you livelihood.

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Sep 23, 2017 12:40:14   #
Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
 
So what has this to do with Photography ?
foathog wrote:
why do some people find it necessary to put "So" at the beginning of their sentences?? Do you know that you could leave it out and it would never be missed??

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Sep 23, 2017 12:58:16   #
Starphotog
 
Oh and the guy usung his phone is using a cold garage pass or pit pass. Those people are somewhat connected to be able to get a pit and/or garage pass so they can get in everyones way to shoot vids or stills with a freaking phone! And you must be credentialed through NASCAR, NOT a simple photo pass to get into the track! THEN you sign in for the photo vest! Its not a club for Kodak.. its advertising for Kodak and NASCAR gets a cut!

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Sep 23, 2017 13:34:40   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I believe you can buy a Pit Pass at NASCAR races if you want to spend some more money... Once you are in the Pits well...
At even NHRA Drag Races every ticket is a Pit Pass and people are free to roam and spend time in the Pits all day if they want to do it.

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Todd Ferguson

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Sep 23, 2017 14:45:18   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
This thread turned into a grammar, pinctuation, spelling and language rant. I thought we were here to "talk" photography. There was a thread a few days ago also about spelling, grammar, vocabulary etc. This just wastes bandwidth as I am doing right now!

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Sep 23, 2017 15:21:32   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
foathog wrote:
why do some people find it necessary to put "So" at the beginning of their sentences?? Do you know that you could leave it out and it would never be missed??


It means, "Consequently, ...".

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Sep 23, 2017 15:41:14   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
So??

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Sep 23, 2017 15:45:38   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
Starphotog wrote:
Here is the answer to the original question...
Being a photojournalist for 41 years now and shooting more NASCAR races thanI care ti mention, I can explain the Kodak vest question.
You show your photographer credentials and drivers license at the “vest” area in the media work area inside the track and are given to use a Kodak vest. You license is copied and off you go. When you are dine shooting the race weekend (could be one to multiple days) you return the vest and your info is erased. If you dont return the vest you are sent a bill for a replacement! You are NOT required as a credentialed photographer at any NASCAR race to wear the vest BUT it is more helpful for you to have the vest on during your time shooting. What the vest does is show any official at a glance that you are at least supposed to be a pro and they dont check your credentials! The big bold number on the vest is connected to your name and identification so if you are doing something wring tney simply call in the number and BAM.... If you dont have a vest on then you will have to show your credentials seversl times a race and race weekend so the vest makes your job easier!! The vests are property of NASCAR and travel from track to track so you will see the same vests every weekend at different tracks. Most of the regulars shoot for the many NASCAR magazines that are in publication ( Circle Track, Pole Position, Speedway Ill etc)
Here is the answer to the original question... br ... (show quote)


Thank you for that information! I appreciate you staying on target as some of the others have done so well!

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Sep 23, 2017 15:52:29   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Most drag racing tracks that I have been to you can either get a more permanent credential with a lanyard or a vest of some sort that identifies you as media to their staff. Some organizations are much stricter, NHRA for example, and others enforce the rules more loosely. Ultimately I feel you are responsible for your well being and equipment well being and not interfering with the racing in any way. Some track and organizations allow the use of flash or strobes and others do not. Usually you have to sign a release and sometimes a set of rules to adhere to when receiving your credential. I have even had some tracks ask for copies of your photos that can get a little dicy. Usually an inquiry with the sanctioning organization and the track staff where you want to shoot will help you learn how to get access if you can. This should be done several weeks to several days in advance of any actual event. The staff is often too busy to deal with this stuff during race days unless you are already know to them. In drag racing the shooters are pretty well known to each other and often friends. So, you sort of have to accept that they are wondering what you are doing there in their world and if you have the common sense and manners to shoot with them. In time they can become friends too. But many of them are shooting to make a living or part of their living and some of us are out there shooting to promote the sport, but not for a living. Be respectful of those who are trying to make a buck. It can also be a very long and hot day or days at an event. Many tracks have media rooms with internet access, workspace, drinks, snacks and meals. In todays world many of these people are trying to get their photos processed and uploaded to websites as quickly as they can.

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Todd Ferguson
Most drag racing tracks that I have been to you ca... (show quote)


Todd, thank you for that information! I've been to the RIR races for many years with pit/garage passes thru my relationship as a volunteer chaplain with MRO for the (former) #90 Junie Donlavey team. And have been in since those years thru other race team members I'm friends with. I'm gonna have to do some more homework on this Kodak vest here at RIR. I have always enjoyed watching the professional photographers work around to get their shots and such. I'll see what I can come up with for the spring race. Thanks again!

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Sep 23, 2017 15:59:10   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I worked as a press photographer in New York City and Montreal. In New York, "Working Press" credentials were issued by the police department, however, many amateur and professional athletic organizations and venues required specific accreditation to their events. Vests, ID tags and other visible means of identification were issued to authorized photographer and journalists. Up here in Canada, many governmental events like visits form foreign dignitaries also require security clearance and special passes, pins or ID tags even for full-time media folks.

With today's security measures, even at sports and entertainment events, anyone trying to pass themselves off as as an authorized person without the paperwork and required "uniform", may end up in the jailhouse- at least for the afternoon.

If you want to cover an event, seek out the proper permission. Even freelancers can be granted credentials in many cases- especially if photography is a significant part of you livelihood.
I worked as a press photographer in New York City ... (show quote)


Thank you! Definitely would want to seek out the proper permission. RIR security, as have so many other sports venues, have stepped up with major intensity since 9/11.

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Sep 23, 2017 16:04:20   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
Starphotog wrote:
Oh and the guy usung his phone is using a cold garage pass or pit pass. Those people are somewhat connected to be able to get a pit and/or garage pass so they can get in everyones way to shoot vids or stills with a freaking phone! And you must be credentialed through NASCAR, NOT a simple photo pass to get into the track! THEN you sign in for the photo vest! Its not a club for Kodak.. its advertising for Kodak and NASCAR gets a cut!


All of those that were in the photo actually have a pass that included the opportunity to get in on pit road during driver introductions. This was taken as the drivers were coming from the garage area and making their way down pit road to get ready for the official introductions to the fans in the seats. I had a HOT pass and they would not let me over there...they told me that was another layer of the credential (I'm sure that costs some certain amount) specific to driver introductions. NASCAR has changed an awful lot of rules...I used to stand in that very spot all the time with just my pit/garage pass before there were the HOT/COLD passes.

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Sep 23, 2017 16:11:29   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I believe you can buy a Pit Pass at NASCAR races if you want to spend some more money... Once you are in the Pits well...
At even NHRA Drag Races every ticket is a Pit Pass and people are free to roam and spend time in the Pits all day if they want to do it.

Best,
Todd Ferguson


Anymore NASCAR issues different levels of credentials. There are pit passes that are available for purchase separate from your ticket, but that will not let you where you see the people in the photo. The purchases pit passes allow fans onto the track and into the pit for a certain time frame (hours) prior to the start of major track activity, then they are sent back into the stands. As far as the pit goes - at least for RIR - and probably similar to other NASCAR events, they issue HOT or COLD pit/garage passes. The cold pass will allow you into the garage area until the start of the race and then you're outside of that are. You can also use the cold pass to wonder around the pits, again, until the start of the race, then you have to clear out. The hot pass allows access to either before, during, and after the race. They have so many dang credential levels now it is insane.

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Sep 23, 2017 16:14:22   #
mrova Loc: Chesterfield, VA
 
cambriaman wrote:
This thread turned into a grammar, pinctuation, spelling and language rant. I thought we were here to "talk" photography. There was a thread a few days ago also about spelling, grammar, vocabulary etc. This just wastes bandwidth as I am doing right now!


I was thinking the same thing as we got off and running. I've been able to weed through the garbage and found the good information I was hoping for, and I appreciate that.

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Sep 23, 2017 16:52:16   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
mrova wrote:
Anymore NASCAR issues different levels of credentials. There are pit passes that are available for purchase separate from your ticket, but that will not let you where you see the people in the photo. The purchases pit passes allow fans onto the track and into the pit for a certain time frame (hours) prior to the start of major track activity, then they are sent back into the stands. As far as the pit goes - at least for RIR - and probably similar to other NASCAR events, they issue HOT or COLD pit/garage passes. The cold pass will allow you into the garage area until the start of the race and then you're outside of that are. You can also use the cold pass to wonder around the pits, again, until the start of the race, then you have to clear out. The hot pass allows access to either before, during, and after the race. They have so many dang credential levels now it is insane.
Anymore NASCAR issues different levels of credenti... (show quote)


Thanks for sharing.... Yes things keep changing since 911...

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Todd Ferguson

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