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Feb 2, 2017 06:38:00   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
William Randolph Hearst once said: "Show me a magazine with a pretty girl, a baby, or a dog on the cover and I'll show you a magazine that sells". If the purpose of the photo contest is to showcase photos with general appeal, I think you cannot go wrong with his advice, except for photos.

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Feb 2, 2017 06:38:54   #
alggomas Loc: Wales, United Kingdom.
 
There are a couple of reasons to include or not to include.

Are the people/person relevant to the scene?
Use people as dating evidence for the photographs.

Whether you do or do not is also down to personal preferences.

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Feb 2, 2017 06:50:13   #
Ttaylor
 
Ho Chi Minh City



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Feb 2, 2017 06:52:38   #
philden Loc: Victor, NY
 
Having people in the picture, for the most part, adds to overall image. But sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Depends on the situation.

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Feb 2, 2017 06:54:56   #
Ttaylor
 
Notre Dam, Paris. I thought this picture of people in 40's garb was better than the cathedral behind me.



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Feb 2, 2017 07:14:32   #
Baz Loc: Peterborough UK
 
I remember posting a pano shot here, some time ago, which was criticised for having people in it. I didn't understand it then, and I still don't. The shot in question was a mountain scene which contained some very small hikers. On a practical point, none of us have a divine right for people free vistas in front of us. If it is worth photographing, the chances are that others also like it, and may be there. Of course you could always photoshop them out, but then, is that a true image? Also a very valid point that is often made on this subject, is that the people give a reference to size. Also, the image is humanised. I would say though that I have seen some portraits that would be improved by leaving people out. In short, if the people are part of the scene, leave them in. If they block the scene, leave them out.

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Feb 2, 2017 07:30:31   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SharpShooter wrote:
In the Eiffel Tower shot I've included two people for a little side story and only a small piece of the tower but it is still unmistakably the Eiffel Tower.

In the Winsdor shot, At one time I would have moved just slightly to my left and taken the people out but here I've purposely included them to add a homey feel to the pic.

In the Palace shot I could have waited till closing and stood there till I was the last person out but instead chose to include the mass of people to give scale to the size of the palace and the constant flow of humanity EVERYDAY!

What would you have done and why? Post some examples and explain why you did what YOU did!
Post away!!!
Thanks
SS
In the Eiffel Tower shot I've included two people ... (show quote)


I like your reasoning and generally avoided photos devoid of people. But if they are in the photo they must be a part of the photo and have purpose. Your examples, to me, show purpose and the people look like a natural part of the photo and belong in them.
Thank you for sharing and I will look for opportunities as you have explained.

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Feb 2, 2017 07:46:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Yes, especially for weddings.

People can add an emotional appeal, and they can also add humor, which is an emotion. Of course, on family trips you might have no choice but to include family members when you are shooting beautiful scenery. I find myself photographing very few people. I have more pictures of my dogs than of my family. :)

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Feb 2, 2017 07:49:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
sb wrote:
William Randolph Hearst once said: "Show me a magazine with a pretty girl, a baby, or a dog on the cover and I'll show you a magazine that sells". If the purpose of the photo contest is to showcase photos with general appeal, I think you cannot go wrong with his advice, except for photos.


He also said, "You furnish the pictures, and I'll furnish the war." That led to the Spanish-American War and the sales of lots of papers.

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Feb 2, 2017 07:50:42   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
On the heels of whether our fotos should have a subject...., should we include people in our fotos?
Every year Costco has a Foto contest for its members, maybe you have seen the foto issue of the Costco Connection in years past. About eight years ago they had a short tutorial on how to take pictures.
They gave a statistic, that something like 85% of all prize winning photography has at least one person in it! I was a little surprised! I don't remember the exact percentage but it was VERY high.
The moral to that story was that if you include people in your compositions, they stood an 85% better chance of winning a prize than if you did not!
Indeed, how often do we go out of our way to NOT include people in our shots? You hear, "get there early so there wont be people yet". Is that good advice?
I recently saw in the gallery a beautiful foto of a darkened street in a European town with no people. It was obvious that the photographer had gone out of their way to eliminate them. The image also had NO soul! It needed a couple hand-in-hand or kissing or kids or something!!
I'm going to include 3 images that all have people in them. People are an integral part of our world, so why do we sometimes try SO hard to shut them out. We are social animals and NEED people in our lives.
Since that article I've made it a point to include people in a way that they support my subject and indeed some of these photographs have done well in competitions!!
I am following with 3 pics that have people in situations where you often see them purposely eliminated.
So what are your philosophies about including people? Feel free to post shots to support your position and why you feel it works for you.
Maybe after this post you will have a better understanding of whether to include people or not to include people in your compositions!!!
Please wait till I post the images. Thanks!
SS
On the heels of whether our fotos should have a su... (show quote)


Having people in your landscape pictures help to add perspective, also can often enhance the mood of and interest in the image.

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Feb 2, 2017 08:15:28   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Notice that except for the last shot people in the previous photographs attract the eye. Yes, I look at the Eiffel Tower but immediately my eyes are attracted to the couple in the foreground. Now, is it the tower or the people the center of interest?
People in the last photograph add to the picture and do not detract from the beautiful view.

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Feb 2, 2017 08:18:16   #
cthahn
 
No, I normally avoid have people in my photos. If they are not the subject, they are of no value.

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Feb 2, 2017 08:20:47   #
Ttaylor
 
Can provide scale and often times add depth and layering. I also like a bird, plane, or boat for those reasons.

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Feb 2, 2017 08:28:36   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
SharpShooter wrote:
On the heels of whether our fotos should have a subject...., should we include people in our fotos?
Every year Costco has a Foto contest for its members, maybe you have seen the foto issue of the Costco Connection in years past. About eight years ago they had a short tutorial on how to take pictures.
They gave a statistic, that something like 85% of all prize winning photography has at least one person in it! I was a little surprised! I don't remember the exact percentage but it was VERY high.
The moral to that story was that if you include people in your compositions, they stood an 85% better chance of winning a prize than if you did not!
Indeed, how often do we go out of our way to NOT include people in our shots? You hear, "get there early so there wont be people yet". Is that good advice?
I recently saw in the gallery a beautiful foto of a darkened street in a European town with no people. It was obvious that the photographer had gone out of their way to eliminate them. The image also had NO soul! It needed a couple hand-in-hand or kissing or kids or something!!
I'm going to include 3 images that all have people in them. People are an integral part of our world, so why do we sometimes try SO hard to shut them out. We are social animals and NEED people in our lives.
Since that article I've made it a point to include people in a way that they support my subject and indeed some of these photographs have done well in competitions!!
I am following with 3 pics that have people in situations where you often see them purposely eliminated.
So what are your philosophies about including people? Feel free to post shots to support your position and why you feel it works for you.
Maybe after this post you will have a better understanding of whether to include people or not to include people in your compositions!!!
Please wait till I post the images. Thanks!
SS
On the heels of whether our fotos should have a su... (show quote)


From my perspective there are two reasons to include people in my images.
1. they are family members and the image is destined for the family album or grandma's refrigerator door, or

2. They are of compositional value as scale indicators or as other compositional elements.

Dave

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Feb 2, 2017 08:34:41   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
I don't particularly like people in my images, though one or two, unrecognizable figures to add a sense of scale are sometimes helpful to the composition, I don't want them drawing too much attention.

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