Information for Dummies Who Post Images
Jan 5, 2017 16:08:20 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
It is a disservice to the poster to give praise or acceptance to what is nothing more than a mundane snapshot---pets and grandkids included.
I plead guilty to having posted both. I actually labeled the last one "snapshot" and was not looking for praise and would gladly have accepted criticism. In defense, I would say that animal photography (including pets) is a relevant genre, just as is landscape, street, portraiture, etc., and that many of the grandchildren posted are much more attractive and expressive than many of the models in some other sections 😀.
Jan 5, 2017 16:13:56 #
Hi as a commercial photographer ( I get paid by my clients for my photography) I must say that the only person that is important is my client, even if I don't agree with them about cropping, WB, posing etc. If my client is happy so am I. I think hobbyist should look for criticism from others in order to think outside the box and take others point of view.
Jan 5, 2017 16:36:32 #
The exception to the O.P.'s post would be the Photo Gallery. Section Rules require that a photo's poster ask for critique in this particular section.
Jan 5, 2017 16:43:17 #
TriX wrote:
I plead guilty to having posted both. I actually labeled the last one "snapshot" and was not looking for praise and would gladly have accepted criticism. In defense, I would say that animal photography (including pets) is a relevant genre, just as is landscape, street, portraiture, etc., and that many of the grandchildren posted are much more attractive and expressive than many of the models in some other sections 😀.
There is nothing wrong with posting pictures of pets and grandchildren. I plead guilty as well.
Just be certain the images are good enough to be honestly appreciated, not gratuitously praised.
Jan 5, 2017 19:13:12 #
robertjerl wrote:
Criticism, OK br br Your problem is that there ar... (show quote)
No, you're wrong. I'm always mad at the world. Any person with values should join me.
Jan 5, 2017 19:18:10 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
There is nothing wrong with posting pictures of pets and grandchildren. I plead guilty as well.
Just be certain the images are good enough to be honestly appreciated, not gratuitously praised.
Just be certain the images are good enough to be honestly appreciated, not gratuitously praised.
Good advice. However, whether you post "art" or crap, be prepared to accept comments from both those who like it and those who hate it. Otherwise don't post. And for God's sake don't be a hypocrite by thanking those who admire your submission and insulting or ignoring those who criticize it.
Jan 5, 2017 19:44:28 #
chew on this. we have a section for those want criticism. the gallery is for those who just want to share some of their efforts. photos that are part of a subject post may call for our opinions.
Jan 5, 2017 19:55:34 #
Jim Bob wrote:
No, you're wrong. I'm always mad at the world. Any person with values should join me.
I disagree, a great deal of the time you are an agreeable and nice person.
But that always being mad bit is not really a good idea, I have been there, done that and finally got away from it.
My faith teaches that if a person or situation has 9 faults and 1 good feature you concentrate on the 1 good feature. But keep the others in mind.
Elsewhere in the writings it says to not trust until it has been earned, but to always be trustworthy yourself.
Jan 5, 2017 21:05:48 #
robertjerl wrote:
I disagree, a great deal of the time you are an agreeable and nice person.
But that always being mad bit is not really a good idea, I have been there, done that and finally got away from it.
My faith teaches that if a person or situation has 9 faults and 1 good feature you concentrate on the 1 good feature. But keep the others in mind.
Elsewhere in the writings it says to not trust until it has been earned, but to always be trustworthy yourself.
But that always being mad bit is not really a good idea, I have been there, done that and finally got away from it.
My faith teaches that if a person or situation has 9 faults and 1 good feature you concentrate on the 1 good feature. But keep the others in mind.
Elsewhere in the writings it says to not trust until it has been earned, but to always be trustworthy yourself.
Robert, I love you man.
Jan 5, 2017 21:07:51 #
bull drink water wrote:
chew on this. we have a section for those want criticism. the gallery is for those who just want to share some of their efforts. photos that are part of a subject post may call for our opinions.
If you post it, you own it for good or for ill. Grow up. There is no forum rule that states one can only heap praise on images posted in the gallery. Geesus. What planet are you from?
Jan 5, 2017 21:11:39 #
Jim Bob wrote:
Well your dear old grandma would accept the world as it is given and never say anything that might improve it. That is the logical conclusion to that old adage. As an example, the Veterans Administration is shameful in the way it responds to those who have sacrificed everything for our freedom and way of life. Guess I shouldn't say that because it's not nice. With all due respect to your grandmother (and to others who espouse this view) that advice sucks.
And there we have definitive proof of someone not wanting to improve those conversational skills.............
Jan 5, 2017 22:19:51 #
I've been reading this thread with interest. My take on this is that if one posts a photo, one should expect praise if it's due and criticism if it's warranted, and not be thin skinned if the photo gets some negative review. I was a flight instructor in the army, and one of my things was never to tell a student he did good on a maneuver if, in fact, he screwed it up. On the other hand, any cristicism I might have was always accompanied with instruction on what went wrong, why it went wrong, and how to do it right the next time. Now, it's my opinion that merely telling someone his or her photo "sucks," isn't criticism. It's merely a blunt undo comment. One may or may not like what's been posted, but rude comments accomplish nothing. Yet, I repeat, being thin skinned, whining about negative comments isn't being open minded, either. One can't learn if one isn't open to receiving constructive criticism. We all need to put on our big boy or girl pants and go with the flow. I love being instructed on how I can improve what I do, or try to do. Just let me know what's wrong with it and tell me the right way. It's all good, and I think we all want each other to present the best we can do.
Jan 5, 2017 23:10:49 #
Jan 5, 2017 23:15:41 #
Jim Bob wrote:
Well I don't care what the subject is. But if you post it on a public forum don't get offended if someone says it sucks.
Here is an example of my sister's art. She sees herself as a talented painter. IMHO, her drawings suck, but she, as a person, is so insecure that I don't have the heart to tell her. For whatever its worth, the only thing that I can draw is a deep breath.
Jan 6, 2017 02:55:54 #
Had an antiques appraiser as a very close friend, he much older.
He would say, when a proud owner presented a lamentable antique, "Interesting!"
He's long gone and my wife and I still get a belly laugh when we have a chance to bring it up over coffee.
Some forums are intolerable due to food fights, trolls, ... A very few are enjoyable and useful. To me UHH is enjoyable and useful, including the department discussed here.
Remember, that submitters of images and commenters are two legs of a three-legged stool, the third being the readers who want to learn, perhaps by testing themselves silently against the commenters. While usually on the third leg of that stool, often enough I find myself with no choice but to praise the submitter, so compelling is some unremarked attribute of a submission.
He would say, when a proud owner presented a lamentable antique, "Interesting!"
He's long gone and my wife and I still get a belly laugh when we have a chance to bring it up over coffee.
Some forums are intolerable due to food fights, trolls, ... A very few are enjoyable and useful. To me UHH is enjoyable and useful, including the department discussed here.
Remember, that submitters of images and commenters are two legs of a three-legged stool, the third being the readers who want to learn, perhaps by testing themselves silently against the commenters. While usually on the third leg of that stool, often enough I find myself with no choice but to praise the submitter, so compelling is some unremarked attribute of a submission.
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