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Dec 7, 2016 08:12:29   #
dave sproul Loc: Tucson AZ
 
Saw this the other day and thought it may apply to some here:

Show respect even to people who do not deserve it; not as a reflection of their character, but as a reflection of yours.

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Dec 7, 2016 10:11:03   #
PhotoArtsLA Loc: Boynton Beach
 
Factory refurbished means the entire camera was checked out and re-calibrated, any missing or broken parts replaced, everything properly cleaned, and fully tested for all functions prior to being prepped for resale. That's what you HOPE has happened, and generally, it's true. There are "camera sensor cleaning services" which also bother to do a proper cleaning, with your camera returning like new.

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Dec 7, 2016 18:58:25   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
dave sproul wrote:
Saw this the other day and thought it may apply to some here:

Show respect even to people who do not deserve it; not as a reflection of their character, but as a reflection of yours.


Very nice thought, Dave. As you say, it may apply.....but then again, it may not. Perhaps the Cuban people of Miami could give us better insight.

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Dec 7, 2016 19:59:51   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
dave sproul wrote:
Saw this the other day and thought it may apply to some here:

Show respect even to people who do not deserve it; not as a reflection of their character, but as a reflection of yours.


Dave, that looks like all those cute little post you see on Facebook now.
It's not about respect.
You're saying that when we're walking down the street and a guy hauls off and slaps you, we're supposed to just smile, say THANK YOU, and just keep walking?! Unfortunately, that's probably not gonna happen!
Also, just as unfortunately, when people swear at each other, it's barnyard talk, it's just how the uneducated speak to each other, it's how they talk to their children..., that's not gonna stop just because you're telling them to behave. You're not gonna undue 60-70 years of barnyard here!! LoL
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Dec 8, 2016 06:23:15   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Dave, that looks like all those cute little post you see on Facebook now.
It's not about respect.
You're saying that when we're walking down the street and a guy hauls off and slaps you, we're supposed to just smile, say THANK YOU, and just keep walking?! Unfortunately, that's probably not gonna happen!
Also, just as unfortunately, when people swear at each other, it's barnyard talk, it's just how the uneducated speak to each other, it's how they talk to their children..., that's not gonna stop just because you're telling them to behave. You're not gonna undue 60-70 years of barnyard here!! LoL
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Dave, that looks like all those cute little post y... (show quote)


If anything, MT's response shed a better light on canon (same one year as new) refurbs than others, (most 90 day) and did not even mention nikon, This sure makes your initial response seem like an attack to me.

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Dec 8, 2016 13:55:48   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
cmc4214 wrote:
If anything, MT's response shed a better light on canon (same one year as new) refurbs than others, (most 90 day) and did not even mention nikon, This sure makes your initial response seem like an attack to me.


Perhaps some data from a third party would be of interest: http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-u-s-a-releases-survey-results-confirming-consumer-perceptions-of-faster-service-times-and-higher-tech-support-satisfaction-over-major-competitor/

Clearly this is a Canon sponsored survey, but it was conducted by a third party and does actually have data to support its conclusions. By contrast MT's information is highly subjective and at times demonstrably incorrect. It is interesting that he challenges other people until they respond with factual information and then goes silent or resorts to insults or dismissive commentary.

Believe whoever you wish, but facts can stand to examination, opinion is merely opinion. In MT's situation, doubly so.

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