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Nov 11, 2016 10:15:58   #
rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida
 
Well Done!!! So elegantly, succinctly, and truthfully stated. Thank you

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Nov 11, 2016 10:27:28   #
Sjfh
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
In one word.... ARROGANCE.

During the last 8 years the democrats have been busy redefining America, first with Obamacare which the majority of the American people clearly let it be known that they did not want. They then declared war on our energy sectors, redefined marriage, redefined for us who could use which public restrooms and showers even in our public schools. President Obama pushed the boundaries of the executive branch as he rewrote law, granted sweeping legal status to the undocumented and opened our borders to 100's of thousands of so called refugees from Central and South America and the Middle East, while telling us who we are as a people, such arrogance, telling us how we think even though the American public at large overwhelmingly expressed great reservation at much of what the president had taken upon himself to do alone without congressional buy in. Just how many times did we hear the president tell us that this is not who we are as the American people as if he alone could speak for us and our values. Then we had the Obama Justice Department which has gone after police departments all over the country in an attempt to put them under federal control, they chose to define hate crimes so as to mean that only white perpetrators would be prosecuted... The Obama justice department was blind to government corruption, blind to the weaponization of the IRS, blind to the transgressions of the executive, while it focused on the political advisories of the Democrat party...... Finally we had the courts and the spoken hope of the democrats for activism which would only further the weakening of our country's constitution......

Democrats had decided that they had finally become unstoppable and that they would remold America to their liking, well, that long forgotten silent majority finally rose up and demanded that their voices be heard.
In one word.... ARROGANCE. br br During the las... (show quote)


I agree....would also like to add that they were so confident that their vision was "the truth, the light, and the way" that they were blinded to any opposing views....dismissing them as nonsense that no sane person would subscribe to. When you tell yourself something often enough, you begin to actually beleive it....fact or not.

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Nov 11, 2016 13:36:24   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
davidrb wrote:
Their arrogance during the last 8 years is a pittance compared to what they are displaying in losing. Their conduct as the losing party in an election is amateurish, childish at best. "How dare we deny them what they considered to be theirs for the asking. Their campaign was deplorable and now their conduct is unacceptable. If the democrats insist on being such bad losers the nation very possibly could show them the exit. Their intent for the nation is crippling and decisive and is leading to the demise of the USA. Seems the Bollyhood contingency promised once again to leave if Killary wasn't appointed president. Go ahead, get out! Nobody is going to miss them or their selfishness. Streisand and Goldburg both promised to leave when Bush won and they are such liars they reneged on their promise. Go on, get out you worthless bastards! America does not need nor want such arrogance.
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One correction: both Streisand and Goldburg are female (don't know what animal or plant group they're in) so we just might as well call them what they, WHORES.

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Nov 11, 2016 13:43:07   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
dljen wrote:
I completely disagree with your interpretation. People saw it wrong. I do believe that a lot of the ppl who voted have NO idea how government works. They didn't/don't know that the House controls the pursestrings of the gov't. They blamed the office of the presidency when it should have been the House.

We're now stuck with a totally inept man who has the discipline of a child, but the ppl have spoken. I can only wish that he will surround himself with intelligent ppl but looking at his aids, that seems to be a dream. He has reached out to Pelosi and Shuman which is to be commended. I am not militant like some of my Democratic friends are and hope riots stop, however, it is their right. I will hold his feet to the fire tho, Trump's displayed very poor judgement in most of his decisions. I would hope Trump will think twice before appointing Rudy, Newt, Flynn or Carson because they have displayed the same poor judgement.
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"hope riots stop", your demoncrappers don't seem to know anything but RIOTING (think about some of the groups that they have backed, like BLM, Occupy Wall Street, and any other groups that Soros is backing). These are the type of criminal imbeciles that populate the PRESENT democrat party. JFK, Truman and Roosevelt must be vomiting in their graves.

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Nov 11, 2016 18:07:37   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
However much OP wants his thesis to be true, the sharp pencil analysts have been coming up with some fairly complicated answers. One seems to have been lower turnout of former Obama voters. There seems also to have been lessened turnout in other categories that in the past went Democratic. Likewise, there were upticks in other Republican leaning categories. It is going to be many weeks, if not months, before the stats story becomes understood. There is one factoid that is true: if the third party voters had voted Democratic, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin would have gone to Clinton and put her Electoral College number over 270.

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Nov 11, 2016 18:08:42   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
John_F wrote:
However much OP wants his thesis to be true, the sharp pencil analysts have been coming up with some fairly complicated answers. One seems to have been lower turnout of former Obama voters. There seems also to have been lessened turnout in other categories that in the past went Democratic. Likewise, there were upticks in other Republican leaning categories. It is going to be many weeks, if not months, before the stats story becomes understood. There is one factoid that is true: if the third party voters had voted Democratic, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin would have gone to Clinton and put her Electoral College number over 270.
However much OP wants his thesis to be true, the s... (show quote)

But they did not.

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Nov 11, 2016 18:13:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
John_F wrote:
However much OP wants his thesis to be true, the sharp pencil analysts have been coming up with some fairly complicated answers. One seems to have been lower turnout of former Obama voters. There seems also to have been lessened turnout in other categories that in the past went Democratic. Likewise, there were upticks in other Republican leaning categories. It is going to be many weeks, if not months, before the stats story becomes understood. There is one factoid that is true: if the third party voters had voted Democratic, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin would have gone to Clinton and put her Electoral College number over 270.
However much OP wants his thesis to be true, the s... (show quote)


Obviously the independent non partisans saw through the lib/dem BS and decided that Trump was the right person at the right time to drain the swamp.

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Nov 11, 2016 18:16:22   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Obviously the independent non partisans saw through the lib/dem BS and decided that Trump was the right person at the right time to drain the swamp.

Sometimes common sense wins out.

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Nov 11, 2016 19:13:16   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
In one word.... ARROGANCE.

During the last 8 years the democrats have been busy redefining America, first with Obamacare which the majority of the American people clearly let it be known that they did not want. They then declared war on our energy sectors, redefined marriage, redefined for us who could use which public restrooms and showers even in our public schools. President Obama pushed the boundaries of the executive branch as he rewrote law, granted sweeping legal status to the undocumented and opened our borders to 100's of thousands of so called refugees from Central and South America and the Middle East, while telling us who we are as a people, such arrogance, telling us how we think even though the American public at large overwhelmingly expressed great reservation at much of what the president had taken upon himself to do alone without congressional buy in. Just how many times did we hear the president tell us that this is not who we are as the American people as if he alone could speak for us and our values. Then we had the Obama Justice Department which has gone after police departments all over the country in an attempt to put them under federal control, they chose to define hate crimes so as to mean that only white perpetrators would be prosecuted... The Obama justice department was blind to government corruption, blind to the weaponization of the IRS, blind to the transgressions of the executive, while it focused on the political advisories of the Democrat party...... Finally we had the courts and the spoken hope of the democrats for activism which would only further the weakening of our country's constitution......

Democrats had decided that they had finally become unstoppable and that they would remold America to their liking, well, that long forgotten silent majority finally rose up and demanded that their voices be heard.
In one word.... ARROGANCE. br br During the las... (show quote)


Actually three words ... arrogance, smugness and complacency, from the top down, that's why Clinton. I've said it many times here ... "Yes, he's ghastly but we do have to actually vote against the Barbarian Chieftain, in bigly numbers."

Published on
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by Common Dreams
Dangerous Myths About Trump That Some Progressives Cling To

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/11/03/dangerous-myths-about-trump-some-progressives-cling

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Nov 12, 2016 13:13:29   #
ecar Loc: Oregon, USA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
In one word.... ARROGANCE.

During the last 8 years the democrats have been busy redefining America, first with Obamacare which the majority of the American people clearly let it be known that they did not want. They then declared war on our energy sectors, redefined marriage, redefined for us who could use which public restrooms and showers even in our public schools. President Obama pushed the boundaries of the executive branch as he rewrote law, granted sweeping legal status to the undocumented and opened our borders to 100's of thousands of so called refugees from Central and South America and the Middle East, while telling us who we are as a people, such arrogance, telling us how we think even though the American public at large overwhelmingly expressed great reservation at much of what the president had taken upon himself to do alone without congressional buy in. Just how many times did we hear the president tell us that this is not who we are as the American people as if he alone could speak for us and our values. Then we had the Obama Justice Department which has gone after police departments all over the country in an attempt to put them under federal control, they chose to define hate crimes so as to mean that only white perpetrators would be prosecuted... The Obama justice department was blind to government corruption, blind to the weaponization of the IRS, blind to the transgressions of the executive, while it focused on the political advisories of the Democrat party...... Finally we had the courts and the spoken hope of the democrats for activism which would only further the weakening of our country's constitution......

Democrats had decided that they had finally become unstoppable and that they would remold America to their liking, well, that long forgotten silent majority finally rose up and demanded that their voices be heard.
In one word.... ARROGANCE. br br During the las... (show quote)


AND

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Nov 12, 2016 13:20:36   #
ecar Loc: Oregon, USA
 
phcaan wrote:
I don't know, but I have sure had a belly full of the far left.



You got that right!!!

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