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Nov 17, 2015 06:30:15   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?

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Nov 17, 2015 07:00:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Unfortunately, you've answered your own question. What you really want is another D750. Maybe there are - or will be - refurbs available. I was in a similar situation a while back, and I got another D750. The newer D7000 series are better than the D7000, but you'll always be wishing you had another D750. I think Nikon has a sale on cameras and lenses now.

EDIT: Yes - http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-store/cameras-on-sale.page

http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/compare/

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Nov 17, 2015 07:01:48   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Why not just get a longer lens for the 750. You can never go wrong with a fine lens. The 7000 is no match for the full frame 750 in low light. The larger sensor allows for larger light gathering pixels. My D700 shoots @4000 ISO WITH VIRTUALLY NO NOISE.

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Nov 17, 2015 07:05:57   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I have used the D7000 at high ISO with very pleasant results. If any questions I edit the file with Topaz Denoise to clean the noise. I have not used the D7100 or the D7200.
Your D750 is even better in the noise performance arena but as you said you loose the duplicating factor. Even with a full frame camera it is a good idea to have a noise reduction program.
In your case I would keep the D7000.

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Nov 17, 2015 07:17:00   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Go for the D810. Apparently you shoot sports and the 810 has the Group Area Focus Mode which the D4s has. And don't worry about losing "reach." Reach is a misnomer. What you actually get is the "field of view" of a lens 1.5 x that of the focal length in use. The actual image projected onto the crop sensor is the same size as the image projected onto a full frame sensor. The crop camera merely crops it in-camera. With a ff camera, you'd merely need to crop it in p/p to get the same size in print. Think it through and it'll make sense. A 100mm lens is always a 100mm lens.

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Nov 17, 2015 07:22:23   #
UncleBuck Loc: Malvern, Arkansas
 
I have a D750, upgraded to it from a D610, I have had a D7000 then a D7100, in retrospect I probably should have kept the D7000 a little longer. I now have a D7200, I find the high ISO noise control of the 7200 much better than either the 7100 or 7000, the D7200 auto focusing is actually a touch better in low light than the D750 and much better than either the 7000 or 7100. Hindsight is always 20/20 but my recommendation would be the D7200, it is well worth the difference, and I say that not in criticism of either the 7000 or 7100 as they're both excellent in their right, I just believe the D7200 is better
OnDSnap wrote:
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?
I need something better in low light, and simply a... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2015 07:54:38   #
Bud S Loc: Logan Ohio
 
OnDSnap wrote:
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?
I need something better in low light, and simply a... (show quote)


I never was happy with the 7000 and got a refurb 7100, day and night difference. 7100 much sharper even using same lens. It was evident in an engagement shoot I did using both cameras. Only problem is noise with the 7100 at high ISO. I will get the 750 soon but keep the 7100 for back up and longer reach, I have a couple Sigma lens calibrated to that body and I love the 7100.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:26:40   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
I know I did Jerry and thanks... I'm considering another 750...but still need the 600mm. For a decent one...$$$$ can't do right now. :(

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Nov 17, 2015 08:31:03   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Thanks Steve, but don't need the added file size... D750 file crops just fine if needed without the added baggage for what I do. Not making billboards :).

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Nov 17, 2015 08:32:25   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Bud S wrote:
I never was happy with the 7000 and got a refurb 7100, day and night difference. 7100 much sharper even using same lens. It was evident in an engagement shoot I did using both cameras. Only problem is noise with the 7100 at high ISO. I will get the 750 soon but keep the 7100 for back up and longer reach, I have a couple Sigma lens calibrated to that body and I love the 7100.


Thanks Bud...you'll love the 750.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:33:42   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Thanks UB for your input.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:39:27   #
Bud S Loc: Logan Ohio
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Thanks Bud...you'll love the 750.




:thumbup:

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Nov 17, 2015 08:43:17   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
SteveR wrote:
Go for the D810. Apparently you shoot sports and the 810 has the Group Area Focus Mode which the D4s has. And don't worry about losing "reach." Reach is a misnomer. What you actually get is the "field of view" of a lens 1.5 x that of the focal length in use. The actual image projected onto the crop sensor is the same size as the image projected onto a full frame sensor. The crop camera merely crops it in-camera. With a ff camera, you'd merely need to crop it in p/p to get the same size in print. Think it through and it'll make sense. A 100mm lens is always a 100mm lens.
Go for the D810. Apparently you shoot sports and ... (show quote)


Replying to the rest of your reply, duh!. I know all about the misnomers, actual image projected ect.etc... the whole point is not always having the time to do Post cropping after a game. If I were going for an 810, I'd wait till I could afford the D4 along with 600mm glass.
Not worried about the losing reach cause I can always crop the D750 shots with no issues...if I have the time. I have the 7000 which will be sold and $$$ put toward a replacement. Something I can use and not get frustrated over.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:48:40   #
Bud S Loc: Logan Ohio
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Replying to the rest of your reply, duh!. I know all about the misnomers, actual image projected ect.etc... the whole point is not always having the time to do Post cropping after a game. If I were going for an 810, I'd wait till I could afford the D4 along with 600mm glass.
Not worried about the losing reach cause I can always crop the D750 shots with no issues...if I have the time. I have the 7000 which will be sold and $$$ put toward a replacement. Something I can use and not get frustrated over.
Replying to the rest of your reply, duh!. I know a... (show quote)


The 7100 is VERY reasonable as a refurb right now.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:51:44   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
camerapapi wrote:
I have used the D7000 at high ISO with very pleasant results. If any questions I edit the file with Topaz Denoise to clean the noise. I have not used the D7100 or the D7200.
Your D750 is even better in the noise performance arena but as you said you loose the duplicating factor. Even with a full frame camera it is a good idea to have a noise reduction program.
In your case I would keep the D7000.


Thanks, I have Topaz Denoise and yes it does a good job, but PP at times is a factor...not a luxury I always have. If I could afford bigger (good) glass I would get another 750 and be done with it...unfortunately having had to replace 2 computers lately due to age...at $12,000 the 600mm is on the back burner.

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