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Jan 11, 2015 20:25:05   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The quote comes from Spinoza, not from me.

Yes, not every nation lives up to the operational definition of free speech Spinoza propounded.

As to the specific countries you name I have no opinion regarding their laws governing speech because unfamiliar with same.

For now I will say nothing about the pussification of our dear nation presently taking place.

All the same, having been around the block, I feel most grateful and thankful I grew up in America as a native citizen.
larrypayne wrote:
Your definition of free state would eliminate Austria, Germany, Romania and Hungary from being free states.

Citizens in those countries are not allowed to say what they think about the Holocaust without breaking the law.

Isn't that a strange law?

Who do you think got that law passed?

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Jan 11, 2015 20:28:47   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Agree, and on that note, I bid this thread goodbye.
Pfgetty wrote:
I see a lot of badmouthing nonsense about Larry Payne. I have not yet seen anybody write anything substantive about anything he has said that was actually wrong. What is it exactly that he has said that is truly untruthful? It sounds that he says things you don't LIKE. big deal. That is worthless. It means what he says makes you uncomfortable. It means that your worldview is challenged. And you don't like it. No one feels comfortable when their worldview is challenged. But grownups should be able to look at information, and if they cannot negate it using facts, then they should really rethink the way they have viewed the world for many years. Maybe they have been wrong for a long time. It takes guts to do this. I see not many of you are up to the challenge.
I see a lot of badmouthing nonsense about Larry Pa... (show quote)

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Jan 11, 2015 20:54:21   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
dljen wrote:
Whole2th, you and NeilL always hijack threads, why is that?


This thread is about me and I approve of whole2th's message.

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Jan 11, 2015 22:49:04   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
If nothing else he makes you think, also if that's the case stay off the net and just tune into ABC, NBC & CBS :XD:

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Jan 11, 2015 23:48:43   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
soba1 wrote:
If nothing else he makes you think, also if that's the case stay off the net and just tune into ABC, NBC & CBS :XD:

I agree. Even though I don't side with many of Larry's conspiracy theories, he does provide articulate arguments on why he believes what he does. On the other hand whack jobs like Racmanaz have no basis for what they claim to be the truth and are simply and totally mindless idiots.

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Jan 11, 2015 23:51:44   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
tschmath wrote:
I know a lot of people on this forum disagree with a lot of the things I post.

But the impression I get is that almost all of us, regardless of political bias, agree that Larry Payne is a Jew-hating nut job.

Here is my suggestion: we need to stop responding to anything he posts. Plain and simple. None of us buy his line of crazy, and we're certainly not going to make his crazy go away, so let's stop responding to anything he posts, even if it's just a response to someone else. Maybe if we stop giving him a reason to show off his special brand of crazy he'll just pack up his insanity and go away.

Are you with me?
I know a lot of people on this forum disagree with... (show quote)


I am right with you on this Tschmath. His lines of discussion are so outlandish that I find it silly to try to refute them. It would be a waste of time that could be spent on so many other topics, with people who at least have a couple of brain cells to rub together that can form some sort of rational thought.

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Jan 12, 2015 03:57:21   #
whole2th
 
Steven Seward wrote:
I am right with you on this Tschmath. His lines of discussion are so outlandish that I find it silly to try to refute them. It would be a waste of time that could be spent on so many other topics, with people who at least have a couple of brain cells to rub together that can form some sort of rational thought.


LP continues to reference the big lies of 9/11. People with at least a couple of brain cells can see the big lies.

Why is it that LP is not only willing to look at the ugly truth, he is putting his personal reputation and safety on the line to get the message out?

The USA has been overtaken. 9/11 was a policy coup.

So, you go with the herd. The herd is being led to slaughter.

Five minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFf4eClROk

Five hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M

Why you won't look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGbEJ3pXwWM

Now if you are Jew-'ish', the ugly truth is a light too bright which exposes the evil-doings of your fellow tribesmen. So, you say LP is an anti-Semite rather than engage the ugly truth to disprove what LP is saying.

Was there an expressed concern about Paul Revere's ride to warn The People that Paul Revere was anti-englishmen, or was his message heard and heeded?

Did the citizens in Paul Revere's community rally or run away?







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Jan 12, 2015 04:25:11   #
whole2th
 
The maintenance of the dominant culture requires that certain ideas are forbidden. Such restriction of thought is achieved in a myriad of ways, including by what Noam Chomsky termed, the "manufacturing of consent." By and large, forbidden ideas are boxed out of public discourse by professionals who frame debate very narrowly, permitting only officially acceptable viewpoints, which then filter down to the masses.

Defenders of the status quo, like the jackals here, have unstated interests in putting a lid on information that exposes their agendas.

Step away from the herd. The herd is being led not to pasture, but to slaughter. Take someone with you.

You, a member of 'the herd' are being invited to a boycott of communication. You will think that you can protect and preserve your world view. Shutting down, however, does not protect the world. You'll think you have peace of mind--avoiding the ugly truth--while you will neither have peace of mind ... or peace as the jackals are the promoters of war.

Those whose primary tool is ridicule are lacking one thing: the truth.

The truth will set us free.

John 8:44
Revelation 2:9
Revelation 3:9

Read Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion to see the agenda and plan of conquest.

LP should be thanked. Please send him a PM and do so.

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Jan 12, 2015 04:38:39   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
tooth wrote:
LP continues to reference the big lies of 9/11. People with at least a couple of brain cells can see the big lies.
That is just the fantasy you share with LP and a few others.....

tooth wrote:
Why is it that LP is not only willing to look at the ugly truth, he is putting his personal reputation and safety on the line to get the message out?
Have you been living in a cave ? ? ?.....On this forum, Larry has a personal reputation that makes Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot seem angelic.....

How is Larry's (or yours for that matter) personal safety on the line ? ? ? ?.....the attack of the bits and bytes ???.....It is just more of your feverish paranoia.....

tooth wrote:
The USA has been overtaken. 9/11 was a policy coup.
Only in yours and Larry's fevered minds.....seek help.....

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Jan 12, 2015 04:43:40   #
whole2th
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Only in yours and Larry's fevered minds.....seek help.....


Isolate, ridicule, marginalize, then repeat.

If LP is Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot combined, then what is Paul Craig Roberts? Your comparisons are absurd.

Combating ridicule with ridicule quickly denigrates the debate into nothing more than name calling.

Many readers here would prefer that discussion occur. When you refuse you appear as afraid, unprepared or intellectually incapable of honest debate. Ridicule is the refuge of the desperate, slocumeddie.

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Jan 12, 2015 05:19:12   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
tooth wrote:
Isolate, ridicule, marginalize, then repeat.

If LP is Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot combined.....
Did I say that ?

tooth wrote:
Combating ridicule with ridicule quickly denigrates the debate into nothing more than name calling.
Many readers here would prefer that discussion occur. When you refuse you appear as afraid, unprepared or intellectually incapable of honest debate. Ridicule is the refuge of the desperate, slocumeddie.
I am not afraid, nor unprepared, nor intellectually incapable of honest debate..............It is you who are incapable of honest debate.....

I know it, most forum members know it, and you know it.....but hey, keep posting your tripe.....and brace yourself for more ridicule.....

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Jan 12, 2015 05:47:12   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
tschmath wrote:
I know a lot of people on this forum disagree with a lot of the things I post.

But the impression I get is that almost all of us, regardless of political bias, agree that Larry Payne is a Jew-hating nut job.

Here is my suggestion: we need to stop responding to anything he posts. Plain and simple. None of us buy his line of crazy, and we're certainly not going to make his crazy go away, so let's stop responding to anything he posts, even if it's just a response to someone else. Maybe if we stop giving him a reason to show off his special brand of crazy he'll just pack up his insanity and go away.

Are you with me?
I know a lot of people on this forum disagree with... (show quote)


I started off quite enjoying telling him why he's wrong. But it has become a bit like shooting fish in a barrel. There's no sport in it and I haven't responded for a while.

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Jan 12, 2015 07:37:20   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
tooth wrote:
Why is it that LP is not only willing to look at the ugly truth, he is putting his personal reputation and safety on the line to get the message out?
I ask once again, how is Larry putting his reputation and safety on the line..........? ? ?

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Jan 12, 2015 09:06:48   #
larrypayne Loc: Texas Hill Country
 
slocumeddie wrote:
I ask once again, how is Larry putting his reputation and safety on the line..........? ? ?


Tooth may be referring to veiled threats made by members who seem to be mentally unstable.

Amadjuster has suggested my head should be exploded with a bullet and then changes his avatar to a sniper hiding in the weeds..

Jackinthebox has suggested I should be killed.

You yourself have said I have only a week left to post on this forum.

Psychosis is rampant on this forum.

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Jan 12, 2015 09:36:35   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
larrypayne wrote:
Tooth may be referring to veiled threats made by members who seem to be mentally unstable.

Amadjuster has suggested my head should be exploded with a bullet and then changes his avatar to a sniper hiding in the weeds..

Jackinthebox has suggested I should be killed.

You yourself have said I have only a week left to post on this forum.

Psychosis is rampant on this forum.


Larry, don't take seriously anything Jack says, he's called me some very bad names, I don't think he's well mentally.

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