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Dec 8, 2014 21:39:00   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Stephen.Killian wrote:
Very well put, and I agree :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Thanks for your service!

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Dec 8, 2014 21:44:20   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
user47602 wrote:
jus saying...cops have power, power corrupts. here's something right off the top of the barrel... :mrgreen:

http://www.breitbartunmasked.com/2014/07/15/fl-two-more-kkk-members-outed-from-fruitland-park-police/


Obama, supreme example!

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Dec 8, 2014 21:59:56   #
Stephen.Killian Loc: Tacoma, Wa
 
You are very welcome, I just came in from Fort Lewis a couple of hours ago and I show that Letter to a couple of my friends out there and I got a very mixed review from the Retires it was all Thumb Up and the Ones still on active duty, cause he is the Commander in Chief they did say. But it was like I will get back to you. But again Thank You

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Dec 8, 2014 22:14:49   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Stephen.Killian wrote:
You are very welcome, I just came in from Fort Lewis a couple of hours ago and I show that Letter to a couple of my friends out there and I got a very mixed review from the Retires it was all Thumb Up and the Ones still on active duty, cause he is the Commander in Chief they did say. But it was like I will get back to you. But again Thank You

I was born and raised in Tacoma WA. My father worked at the Meat Market at the PX when Ike and Mamie were stationed there, she was one of his best customers!

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Dec 8, 2014 22:25:58   #
Stephen.Killian Loc: Tacoma, Wa
 
I also, born and raised, East 32nd Street, Roger, Gault, and Lincoln, went into the Army in 1965 and Retired in 1985

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Dec 9, 2014 09:55:03   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Stephen.Killian wrote:
I also, born and raised, East 32nd Street, Roger, Gault, and Lincoln, went into the Army in 1965 and Retired in 1985


South Tacoma then to Fircrest. Hunt, Wilson gaduated 65 then to Central in Eburg! Did you go to Nam?

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Dec 9, 2014 12:28:26   #
Stephen.Killian Loc: Tacoma, Wa
 
Yes, was in Nam, 68-69 The Big Tet Off get me Two Purple Hearts but not a free trip home, same unit as chuck Hagel, the Sec Def and his brother. 9th Inf Div, and I retired out of the 9th Inf Div 2/1 Inf

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Dec 9, 2014 12:39:44   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Stephen.Killian wrote:
Yes, was in Nam, 68-69 The Big Tet Off get me Two Purple Hearts but not a free trip home, same unit as chuck Hagel, the Sec Def and his brother. 9th Inf Div, and I retired out of the 9th Inf Div 2/1 Inf


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Dec 9, 2014 14:52:33   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
idaholover wrote:
Cops only have the power we give them. Is your community's/county's chief/sheriff elected or appointed by a pointy headed politician to serve at his pleasure rather than you and your community? These are local governing adjustments that need to be addressed by local community leaders. Most people who are capable of leading on a local venue are constantly mustering out of the military and are dedicated to serving, have discipline, training, and social skills.


Elected law enforcement personnel can be a real problem. In Georgia, as is the case in other states I am sure, the Sheriff is a constitutional officer and is thus chosen by election; ANYONE, regardless of qualifications or experience, can run and could be elected. (BTW, the same sort of foolishness often applies to county coroners.)

Case in point: Clayton County, Georgia, my home county. Our current sheriff, Victor Hill, is in his second elected term. Before his first election he'd been employed by the then sheriff's department; upon taking office he posted armed deputies about the departmental headquarters and had a sizable number of deputies and jail personnel stripped of their badges of rank and "escorted" out to a waiting bus. Settling a few scores, it seemed.

Naturally there was a law suit, and the County ended up paying not only legal fees for BOTH sides, but sizable settlements for the former personnel, who were all, IIRC, reinstated. There followed various other peccadilloes, uncovered after Hill's defeat, involving misuse of county vehicles, apparent misuse of travel funds, etc. Hill went bankrupt, but amazingly enough, was acquitted of the above charges, but only after several years of court battles. Who paid his bills this time I don't remember.

Hill's bid for re-election was futile. We county citizens have four years of relatively clean "sheriffing." Fast forward to the next election, Hill runs and WINS despite his abysmal record and despite the fact that the above-mentioned acquittal had not yet occurred! There was quite a discussion whether on not someone on trial for felonies could hold the office of sheriff! He starts a choir of deputies - really - who practice on county time, and there are many other irregularities. Heaven only knows what will turn up in time for the next election....

So, as should be evident from the quality of some of the bozos elected to public office at ALL levels, electing law enforcement chiefs or sheriffs is hardly a panacea. What is the best way to select such vital people? I don't really know.

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Dec 9, 2014 15:04:20   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
GeorgeH wrote:
Elected law enforcement personnel can be a real problem. In Georgia, as is the case in other states I am sure, the Sheriff is a constitutional officer and is thus chosen by election; ANYONE, regardless of qualifications or experience, can run and could be elected. (BTW, the same sort of foolishness often applies to county coroners.)

Case in point: Clayton County, Georgia, my home county. Our current sheriff, Victor Hill, is in his second elected term. Before his first election he'd been employed by the then sheriff's department; upon taking office he posted armed deputies about the departmental headquarters and had a sizable number of deputies and jail personnel stripped of their badges of rank and "escorted" out to a waiting bus. Settling a few scores, it seemed.

Naturally there was a law suit, and the County ended up paying not only legal fees for BOTH sides, but sizable settlements for the former personnel, who were all, IIRC, reinstated. There followed various other peccadilloes, uncovered after Hill's defeat, involving misuse of county vehicles, apparent misuse of travel funds, etc. Hill went bankrupt, but amazingly enough, was acquitted of the above charges, but only after several years of court battles. Who paid his bills this time I don't remember.

Hill's bid for re-election was futile. We county citizens have four years of relatively clean "sheriffing." Fast forward to the next election, Hill runs and WINS despite his abysmal record and despite the fact that the above-mentioned acquittal had not yet occurred! There was quite a discussion whether on not someone on trial for felonies could hold the office of sheriff! He starts a choir of deputies - really - who practice on county time, and there are many other irregularities. Heaven only knows what will turn up in time for the next election....

So, as should be evident from the quality of some of the bozos elected to public office at ALL levels, electing law enforcement chiefs or sheriffs is hardly a panacea. What is the best way to select such vital people? I don't really know.
Elected law enforcement personnel can be a real pr... (show quote)

It is not a perfect science as they say!

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Dec 9, 2014 15:18:42   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
All the more reason to have careful, continual oversight of police. While dash cameras, etc, can help some police ignore their presence. Recently a woman didn't move her vehicle from the passenger loading/unloading space at the Atlanta airport fast enough to suit a policeman. WITH THE DASH CAMERA RUNNING he dragged her from the car and pinned her face-down to the pavement. Investigation showed that this officer had had several prior complaints of use of excessive force. IIRC he was dismissed; I feel he should have been tried for assault. Now...with the prior complaints should he have been fired before the last incident?

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Dec 9, 2014 19:04:31   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
Gitzo wrote:
Obama's War On Cops

John Nantz | Dec 06, 2014



Conflict, agitation, and aggression are the Obama administration's stock-in-trade. It is the thug life costumed in a tailored suit. This boorish behavior from the White House shouldn’t come as a surprise; during the 2008 election campaign, Obama incited his saucer-eyed fans to bully anyone who would dare to disagree with his policies by “[arguing] with them” and by “[getting] in their face.” Obama’s political life subsists on class and race conflict. Race is the Obama administration’s unified field theory. It is the prism through which his race-hustling administration views every societal interaction. For Obama, this is extremely convenient, since he’s America’s first half black president, race is a tailor made catalyst for him and he eagerly feeds the mob their nihilist creed, “I hate; therefore, I am.” It would be a hilarious irony if it were not so tragic.

Michael Brown and Eric Garner are the latest manufactured martyrs in Obama’s theatre of class struggle. First on Obama’s list of protagonists are Cops. Law enforcement is always the target of revolutionary and counterculture movements, since law enforcement is charged with keeping the peace and peace is the mortal enemy of the Bolshevist. When Obama says “change” he really means revolution. And, he will employ any politically viable means necessary to achieve his well known objective of fundamental transformation. History is only a manifestation of Obama's racial dialectic in which American history is reduced to the absurd characterizations of oppressive colonial racists and imperialist depredation. Of course, it’s all a lie, but since when did truth matter to the mob or to Obama? Barack Hussein Obama is a creature of power and truth stands as an immovable object in the path of his seemingly irresistible and all consuming force.

So, when the president meets with community and law enforcement "leadership" to discuss the incident in Ferguson, he is engaging not in a quest for truth or for honest solutions, but rather is advancing an agenda. Obama only needs to appear to be involved in bringing about resolution when he is, in fact, agitating for aggression.

Obama's entire community oriented plan is based on the presupposition that law enforcement is the problem. The criminality of Michael Brown is the three hundred pound gorilla in the room that Sharpton, Holder, and Obama refuse to acknowledge. They feign ignorance because sustaining the rage of black America fuels their machinery of power, influence, and greed. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has gone so far as to compare law enforcement officers with an "occupying force." This kind of rhetoric only serves to stoke the infernal furnaces of class animosity and ensures Obama’s beatification as a social justice savior.

The President’s silly little summit on Monday, December 1st produced the desired effect. He appeared to be doing something while propagating a list of inanities. The Obama brain trust thinks that burdening law enforcement officers with body cameras represents a step forward. As a response to Ferguson, it's completely asinine. First, if Officer Daren Wilson had been wearing a body camera it would not have deterred Michael Brown, who was so high that he perpetrated his attack on officer Wilson in broad daylight in front of dozens of witnesses. Second, any audio or video of the incident from a body camera would have done nothing to prevent the rioting, vandalism, and theft perpetrated by the inflamed mob. In fact, race-hustlers like Al Sharpton agitated and incited for protest irrespective of the grand jury's decision. All the evidence presented to the grand jury was released to the public almost immediately following the disclosure of the decision, a veritable avalanche of exculpatory evidence, far more significant than a video of the incident. This was and continues to be completely ignored by racist elements in the black community.

Obama's pseudo-summit also blames racial tensions on law enforcement's "militarization." Again, with reference to Ferguson, this has no application. Officer Wilson was in a standard patrol car and wearing the uniform common to police departments and sheriff's offices around the country. Officer Wilson carried a semiautomatic Sig Sauer pistol chambered for the.40 caliber cartridge, standard in the law enforcement community. No "militarization" there. Perhaps Officer Wilson's badge was deemed to be provocative by Brown and inflamed his homicidal passions? The word "militarization" is really just a pavlovian trigger meant to send libertarians into inchoate, anarchist rants and prompting racially confused black americans into autonomic spasms of "Hands up don't shoot" or "I can't breathe."

Obama's think tank, turned septic tank, issued a slurry of statements concluding that trust was at issue between law enforcement, generally, and the communities they serve. Trust is hardly enhanced when this nation's leaders choose to lionize the memory of a teenage, pot smoking, robber and thug; a would-be homicidal maniac who attempted to perpetrate a capital murder, while demonizing the lawful and appropriate use of force by a law enforcement officer in the performance of his duty. Trust is not enhanced by compelling officers to wear body cameras to ostensibly prevent them from routinely trampling on the civil rights of black citizens. Nor is trust promoted by describing law enforcement officers as militarized goons tossing hand grenades like candy at a 4th of July parade.

Cops are the good guys. They're the guys in the white hats. They're the men and women who you call when you're too afraid to see what goes bump in the night. The men and women of local, state, and federal law enforcement stand in the gap every day and every night thwarting the local convenience store robber and the international terrorist alike. These are the same people in the Norman Rockwell paintings, the same people who stop and offer assistance when you're stranded on the side of the road, and the same people who find your lost kids at the mall. We've seen what a major city looks like without the presence of the thin blue line. New Orleans sank into bestial anarchy after Hurricane Katrina incapacitated the New Orleans Police Department. It was a literal Thunderdome, complete with roving and ravaging bands of rapacious criminals. The images broadcast on television hardly did justice to the magnitude of human depravity. And, for nothing more than cheap political gain, for power, for filthy lucre Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and Holder besmirch the honor of a noble profession and of noble men and women.

Obama and his minions hope to make scapegoats out of cops when the real and much harder issue in Ferguson concerns the character of black america, with the epidemic of single parent homes, and with the glorification of thug culture in music, art, and movies. Ferguson is about the failure of Barack Obama and massive unemployment among young black Americans. Ferguson is about Holder's cowardice and refusal to identify Brown’s criminality as the proximate cause of his own death. And, Ferguson is about the avarice of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson who always seem to show up just in time to collect a heavy purse of blood stained coins.


John Nantz;

John Nantz is a graduate of Regent University School of Law and has served in the law enforcement community for 16 years. He lives in the Washington, D.C. area and can be found on Twitter @TheJohnNantz. In his spare time, John enjoys reading, martial arts, hiking, and piling up mounds of brass at the shooting range.
His blog can be found at www.johnnantz.co


My comments;

This is by far the best article I've seen yet about this subject; I couldn't possibly agree more.
Obama's War On Cops br br John Nantz | Dec 06, 20... (show quote)



Exellent. Thank you for posting it Gitzo.

The Obummer years will be recorded as the dark years in US history. During those years oBummer gave a new meaning to racism and division.

I have said it again and will repeat it.
Obummer what a bummer.
A man who was given so much and bit the handS that feed him He truly became the enemy within.

He does not show understanding nor remorse for destroying any goodwill the demorats may have had. One can not imagine the disasters he will still unleash on the USA during his last term in office.



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Dec 9, 2014 19:07:05   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
GeorgeH wrote:
All the more reason to have careful, continual oversight of police. While dash cameras, etc, can help some police ignore their presence. Recently a woman didn't move her vehicle from the passenger loading/unloading space at the Atlanta airport fast enough to suit a policeman. WITH THE DASH CAMERA RUNNING he dragged her from the car and pinned her face-down to the pavement. Investigation showed that this officer had had several prior complaints of use of excessive force. IIRC he was dismissed; I feel he should have been tried for assault. Now...with the prior complaints should he have been fired before the last incident?
All the more reason to have careful, continual ove... (show quote)


Just look at the presidency. What a disaster. Truly an election gone of the rails.

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Dec 21, 2014 09:49:48   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
We now have cops getting murdered. Obama and the press should be proud.

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Dec 21, 2014 09:57:11   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
TrainNut wrote:
We now have cops getting murdered. Obama and the press should be proud.


too bad it was not the NYC Mayor…I wonder who he is gonna blame that tragedy on??

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