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Dec 8, 2014 16:01:24   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You sound like the instigators this author has described. Have you any comprehension in what was written in this article or do you continue to stand in your own ignorance? What does this Author and his article have anything to do with Pat Robertson?


If you read the bottom of the post you will see that the author got his law degree from Regents University in Virgina. Pat Robertson is the founder of that school.

Yes I comprehend the article. Why do I sound like an instigator? Because I don't uncritically accept the author's assertions? As I state, all agencies with the powers of the police need close oversight. Do you have a problem with that??

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Dec 8, 2014 16:14:05   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
GeorgeH wrote:
If you read the bottom of the post you will see that the author got his law degree from Regents University in Virgina. Pat Robertson is the founder of that school.

Yes I comprehend the article. Why do I sound like an instigator? Because I don't uncritically accept the author's assertions? As I state, all agencies with the powers of the police need close oversight. Do you have a problem with that??


I say this because of your irrelevant comment about who was the CEO or creator of the University the author attended, his article had nothing to do with Pat Robertson. You made an irrelevant comment to stir up trouble, when you can't combat the issue then you attack the messenger of the article.

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Dec 8, 2014 16:32:40   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Again you are far reaching for something that has nothing to do with the content of this article.



It has everything to do with the content of the article. Please read the last few sentences quoting Baron Acton. The police are as vulnerable to corruption as any powerful agency, unless restrained by careful oversight.

The article implies that Obama is hopelessly corrupt, ignoring his inability to accomplish much of anything due to the unprecedented obstructionism of the Republican house, and the torrent of abuse heaped on him by fools like the author of the article.

The hyperbole and invective employed throughout the post ought to have suggested that the author was confident of speaking to the choir and saw no need to qualify any assertions or furnish any documentation or citations for quotations. I would characterize the article as rancid spew, intended to inflame the passions of the readers, rather than lead to thoughtful consideration. In simple terms, merely a rant, on a par with that master of thought, Rush Limbaugh.

Do remember that lawyers are taught to advocate for their client, not necessarily to present the facts in an even-handed manner. Therefore, the article should be read skeptically and with many, many grains of salt.

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Dec 8, 2014 16:42:25   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
GeorgeH wrote:
It has everything to do with the content of the article. Please read the last few sentences quoting Baron Acton. The police are as vulnerable to corruption as any powerful agency, unless restrained by careful oversight.

The article implies that Obama is hopelessly corrupt, ignoring his inability to accomplish much of anything due to the unprecedented obstructionism of the Republican house, and the torrent of abuse heaped on him by fools like the author of the article.

The hyperbole and invective employed throughout the post ought to have suggested that the author was confident of speaking to the choir and saw no need to qualify any assertions or furnish any documentation or citations for quotations. I would characterize the article as rancid spew, intended to inflame the passions of the readers, rather than lead to thoughtful consideration. In simple terms, merely a rant, on a par with that master of thought, Rush Limbaugh.

Do remember that lawyers are taught to advocate for their client, not necessarily to present the facts in an even-handed manner. Therefore, the article should be read skeptically and with many, many grains of salt.
It has everything to do with the content of the ar... (show quote)


OK George I will re-read it again in a few. I do agree with your second sentence that "The police are as vulnerable to corruption as any powerful agency, unless restrained by careful oversight." I do think that most cops have good intentions but there are some that are power hungry and should be stopped. It is a different atmosphere today than it was decades ago when the cops were actually afraid of the public, now they are not so much. :)

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Dec 8, 2014 16:42:26   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
Gitzo wrote:
Obama's War On Cops

John Nantz | Dec 06, 2014



Conflict, agitation, and aggression are the Obama administration's stock-in-trade. It is the thug life costumed in a tailored suit. This boorish behavior from the White House shouldn’t come as a surprise; during the 2008 election campaign, Obama incited his saucer-eyed fans to bully anyone who would dare to disagree with his policies by “[arguing] with them” and by “[getting] in their face.” Obama’s political life subsists on class and race conflict. Race is the Obama administration’s unified field theory. It is the prism through which his race-hustling administration views every societal interaction. For Obama, this is extremely convenient, since he’s America’s first half black president, race is a tailor made catalyst for him and he eagerly feeds the mob their nihilist creed, “I hate; therefore, I am.” It would be a hilarious irony if it were not so tragic.

Michael Brown and Eric Garner are the latest manufactured martyrs in Obama’s theatre of class struggle. First on Obama’s list of protagonists are Cops. Law enforcement is always the target of revolutionary and counterculture movements, since law enforcement is charged with keeping the peace and peace is the mortal enemy of the Bolshevist. When Obama says “change” he really means revolution. And, he will employ any politically viable means necessary to achieve his well known objective of fundamental transformation. History is only a manifestation of Obama's racial dialectic in which American history is reduced to the absurd characterizations of oppressive colonial racists and imperialist depredation. Of course, it’s all a lie, but since when did truth matter to the mob or to Obama? Barack Hussein Obama is a creature of power and truth stands as an immovable object in the path of his seemingly irresistible and all consuming force.

So, when the president meets with community and law enforcement "leadership" to discuss the incident in Ferguson, he is engaging not in a quest for truth or for honest solutions, but rather is advancing an agenda. Obama only needs to appear to be involved in bringing about resolution when he is, in fact, agitating for aggression.

Obama's entire community oriented plan is based on the presupposition that law enforcement is the problem. The criminality of Michael Brown is the three hundred pound gorilla in the room that Sharpton, Holder, and Obama refuse to acknowledge. They feign ignorance because sustaining the rage of black America fuels their machinery of power, influence, and greed. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has gone so far as to compare law enforcement officers with an "occupying force." This kind of rhetoric only serves to stoke the infernal furnaces of class animosity and ensures Obama’s beatification as a social justice savior.

The President’s silly little summit on Monday, December 1st produced the desired effect. He appeared to be doing something while propagating a list of inanities. The Obama brain trust thinks that burdening law enforcement officers with body cameras represents a step forward. As a response to Ferguson, it's completely asinine. First, if Officer Daren Wilson had been wearing a body camera it would not have deterred Michael Brown, who was so high that he perpetrated his attack on officer Wilson in broad daylight in front of dozens of witnesses. Second, any audio or video of the incident from a body camera would have done nothing to prevent the rioting, vandalism, and theft perpetrated by the inflamed mob. In fact, race-hustlers like Al Sharpton agitated and incited for protest irrespective of the grand jury's decision. All the evidence presented to the grand jury was released to the public almost immediately following the disclosure of the decision, a veritable avalanche of exculpatory evidence, far more significant than a video of the incident. This was and continues to be completely ignored by racist elements in the black community.

Obama's pseudo-summit also blames racial tensions on law enforcement's "militarization." Again, with reference to Ferguson, this has no application. Officer Wilson was in a standard patrol car and wearing the uniform common to police departments and sheriff's offices around the country. Officer Wilson carried a semiautomatic Sig Sauer pistol chambered for the.40 caliber cartridge, standard in the law enforcement community. No "militarization" there. Perhaps Officer Wilson's badge was deemed to be provocative by Brown and inflamed his homicidal passions? The word "militarization" is really just a pavlovian trigger meant to send libertarians into inchoate, anarchist rants and prompting racially confused black americans into autonomic spasms of "Hands up don't shoot" or "I can't breathe."

Obama's think tank, turned septic tank, issued a slurry of statements concluding that trust was at issue between law enforcement, generally, and the communities they serve. Trust is hardly enhanced when this nation's leaders choose to lionize the memory of a teenage, pot smoking, robber and thug; a would-be homicidal maniac who attempted to perpetrate a capital murder, while demonizing the lawful and appropriate use of force by a law enforcement officer in the performance of his duty. Trust is not enhanced by compelling officers to wear body cameras to ostensibly prevent them from routinely trampling on the civil rights of black citizens. Nor is trust promoted by describing law enforcement officers as militarized goons tossing hand grenades like candy at a 4th of July parade.

Cops are the good guys. They're the guys in the white hats. They're the men and women who you call when you're too afraid to see what goes bump in the night. The men and women of local, state, and federal law enforcement stand in the gap every day and every night thwarting the local convenience store robber and the international terrorist alike. These are the same people in the Norman Rockwell paintings, the same people who stop and offer assistance when you're stranded on the side of the road, and the same people who find your lost kids at the mall. We've seen what a major city looks like without the presence of the thin blue line. New Orleans sank into bestial anarchy after Hurricane Katrina incapacitated the New Orleans Police Department. It was a literal Thunderdome, complete with roving and ravaging bands of rapacious criminals. The images broadcast on television hardly did justice to the magnitude of human depravity. And, for nothing more than cheap political gain, for power, for filthy lucre Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and Holder besmirch the honor of a noble profession and of noble men and women.

Obama and his minions hope to make scapegoats out of cops when the real and much harder issue in Ferguson concerns the character of black america, with the epidemic of single parent homes, and with the glorification of thug culture in music, art, and movies. Ferguson is about the failure of Barack Obama and massive unemployment among young black Americans. Ferguson is about Holder's cowardice and refusal to identify Brown’s criminality as the proximate cause of his own death. And, Ferguson is about the avarice of Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson who always seem to show up just in time to collect a heavy purse of blood stained coins.


John Nantz;

John Nantz is a graduate of Regent University School of Law and has served in the law enforcement community for 16 years. He lives in the Washington, D.C. area and can be found on Twitter @TheJohnNantz. In his spare time, John enjoys reading, martial arts, hiking, and piling up mounds of brass at the shooting range.
His blog can be found at www.johnnantz.co


My comments;

This is by far the best article I've seen yet about this subject; I couldn't possibly agree more.
Obama's War On Cops br br John Nantz | Dec 06, 20... (show quote)


He nailed it but then it isn't anything most of us didn't know already!
Well done however.

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Dec 8, 2014 16:50:47   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
OK George I will re-read it again in a few. I do agree with your second sentence that "The police are as vulnerable to corruption as any powerful agency, unless restrained by careful oversight." I do think that most cops have good intentions but there are some that are power hungry and should be stopped. It is a different atmosphere today than it was decades ago when the cops were actually afraid of the public, now they are not so much. :)


Thanks! Now we can have a conversation. Having grown up in the South in the '50s and '60s I really don't recall the cops being afraid of the public. Had I been black in the South at those times I would have been terrified of the cops!

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Dec 8, 2014 17:01:49   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
GeorgeH wrote:
Thanks! Now we can have a conversation. Having grown up in the South in the '50s and '60s I really don't recall the cops being afraid of the public. Had I been black in the South at those times I would have been terrified of the cops!


Maybe I was watching too much of The Andy Griffith Show when I was a little kid lol. You would probably know better than I would since I was a little kid, I always remember them to be very respectful and not so power driven. OH great! now I want to watch an episode of The Andy Griffith Show!! :)

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Dec 8, 2014 17:05:30   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
GeorgeH wrote:
:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Another load of crap. Do recall that Regents University is the creature of Pat Robertson, that noted religious/social "scholar" who asserted that hurricane Katrina was god's message of disapproval for...something or other.


Obama is the 10 plagues wrapped up in one neat bow.

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Dec 8, 2014 17:50:28   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 


you scraped the bottom of the barrell for that, didn't you??

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Dec 8, 2014 17:52:00   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
idaholover wrote:
He nailed it but then it isn't anything most of us didn't know already!
Well done however.

as you say "most of us"...

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Dec 8, 2014 17:58:20   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
wilpharm wrote:
you scraped the bottom of the barrell for that, didn't you??


You might want to Google Bull Conner of Birmingham Alabama. To save you the trouble here's the Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Connor

BTW, the Nazis had much more stylish uniforms.... Jus' sayin' I've heard that Hugo Boss was a major contractor for WWII German uniforms....

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Dec 8, 2014 18:06:08   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
GeorgeH wrote:
You might want to Google Bull Conner of Birmingham Alabama. To save you the trouble here's the Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_Connor

BTW, the Nazis had much more stylish uniforms.... Jus' sayin' I've heard that Hugo Boss was a major contractor for WWII German uniforms....


you know damn well he was speaking for the present…not historical...

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Dec 8, 2014 21:13:36   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
wilpharm wrote:
you scraped the bottom of the barrell for that, didn't you??


jus saying...cops have power, power corrupts. here's something right off the top of the barrel... :mrgreen:

http://www.breitbartunmasked.com/2014/07/15/fl-two-more-kkk-members-outed-from-fruitland-park-police/

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Dec 8, 2014 21:25:53   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
user47602 wrote:
jus saying...cops have power, power corrupts. here's something right off the top of the barrel... :mrgreen:

http://www.breitbartunmasked.com/2014/07/15/fl-two-more-kkk-members-outed-from-fruitland-park-police/


Cops only have the power we give them. Is your community's/county's chief/sheriff elected or appointed by a pointy headed politician to serve at his pleasure rather than you and your community? These are local governing adjustments that need to be addressed by local community leaders. Most people who are capable of leading on a local venue are constantly mustering out of the military and are dedicated to serving, have discipline, training, and social skills.

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Dec 8, 2014 21:36:22   #
Stephen.Killian Loc: Tacoma, Wa
 
Very well put, and I agree :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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