Russian shoot down of Malasia jet?
Jul 18, 2014 22:52:53 #
Jul 18, 2014 22:54:45 #
James Shaw wrote:
I am one who believes that cutting back on our military will make it a much more efficient force, given our new weapons technology. .
There is a bit of a lie contained in that oft touted idea. Take for instance the now retired warthog. My son, who recently came back from Afghanistan told some interesting stories about calling in air strikes. They loved the warthog who came in low and slow because you knew you were not going to get YOUR ass blown off - that mean, nasty cannon was going to tear up an enemy it could SEE with eyeballs. They were scared to death calling in the fast sophisticated aircraft. Too high too fast too much chance of "friendly" accidents. Now you old salts back off! this is second hand - I was not there, but I believe my kid! Bottom line: they have retired the real efficient old tub. But as Tom Sowell said: "Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good."
Thomas Sowell
Jul 18, 2014 23:00:42 #
moabarch wrote:
I've been reading this thread up to this comment with some disgust, but I thought you could at least express a thought with some coherence, though I disagree with you on much (not all) of what you say. However, any bit of respect I might have had for your opinions disappeared in a split second over this comment.
Yes that is very easy to do when you take one sentence out of context and use it to characterize an entire thread. You are entitled to think whatever you want about me based on one sentence if that is your modus operandi. Bless your heart!
Jul 18, 2014 23:13:32 #
dljen wrote:
I like that you admitted that you're a racist. 'Nuff said.
Sarcasm is never wasted is it.
Jul 18, 2014 23:16:29 #
bodacious wrote:
Sarcasm is never wasted is it.
No, it is appreciated! LOL
Jul 18, 2014 23:18:15 #
1philp wrote:
One must remember that at the end of the day we are very fortunate to live in a country that allows us to agree to not agree.
Simper Fi
Simper Fi
Yes sir, I think about and also marvel that we are the only country in the world that really allows and understands that principle. Thanks for the reply.
Jul 18, 2014 23:18:16 #
bodacious wrote:
Sarcasm is never wasted is it.
You said the words, I didn't. It isn't against the law, I just see you for what you are now.
Jul 18, 2014 23:21:56 #
dljen wrote:
You said the words, I didn't. It isn't against the law, I just see you for what you are now.
So that must mean the blind leading the blind I guess. Have a good evening Donna, we can continue our feud tomorrow.
Jul 18, 2014 23:23:53 #
venturer9 wrote:
I have complained a great deal over the last 3 pre... (show quote)
Well I can't disagree with the article written by Judge Napolitano, as I used to do work for him and have the up most respect for him.
As far as the next article concerning the Galen Institute, I have to take my hat off to you. It appears by reading your comment, you work for the institute. I have nothing negative to say with respect to the instate.
I as well as millions of American's don't care how many changes he makes to Obama Care as long as the changes are positive to help the program to survive.
Jul 18, 2014 23:33:07 #
bodacious wrote:
So that must mean the blind leading the blind I guess. Have a good evening Donna, we can continue our feud tomorrow.
I wish you wouldn't. This personal chicken fighting is so undignified. How about some ideas to cross swords over instead of personalities. Or if you must, how about a new thread entitled "I don't like you!" I promise not to post on that one. :-)
Jul 19, 2014 01:58:39 #
As far as the Russians shooting down the airliner, they've done it before. Recall the Korean airliner several years ago.
Ron
Ron
Jul 19, 2014 08:53:20 #
Just wondering: why are commercial airlines flying over "war zones" with SAM missiles"???? looks to me like a lot of lives could have been saved by simply rerouting
maybe its not that simple..
Jul 19, 2014 09:21:43 #
James Shaw wrote:
I am one who believes that cutting back on our military will make it a much more efficient force, given our new weapons technology. We just can't continue to spend ourselves into a downward spiral. Look at all we spent with our military might in Vietnam, and we lost that war. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan. Just what have we won in those two countries? Very costly nonsense.
If we had a vibrant economy and less spending on entitlement programs it would help afford important Constitutional requirements. Cut funding for Airforce #1 and Michelles vacations would go a long way!
:lol: :lol:
Jul 19, 2014 09:30:43 #
Maybe this will help get this thread back on topic:
"Ukrainian military could be responsible for the crash
While western media and politicians have unilaterally blamed Russia for the disaster, they have failed to mention the other side of the story that suggests that the Ukrainian military may have been responsible.
The Russian Defense Ministry has said that when a Malaysian Airlines plane was apparently shot down over Ukraine, a Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational in the region. The ministry said that the battery was deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner. The Defense Ministry also added that the Ukrainian military has several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, in the Donetsk region where the Malaysian passenger plane crashed. Furthermore, hours after the crash of the Boeing 777 was reported, Kiev published what it called intercepted communications between militia officers and their Russian handler to apparently discuss the take-down of a civilian aircraft by the militia. However, as was noted in this video, the alleged intercepted conversation was created before the plane crashed, suggesting that not only is the conversation fake, but whoever created it was aware about the impending disaster.
Ultimately, right now it is very difficult to confirm who was responsible for the crash, but it is imperative to know that there is some evidence that the Ukrainian military may have been involved, thus nullifying the unjustified claims that Russia is definitely to blame." http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-plane-crash-lies-and-sinister-political-agenda-by-the-west/5391913
"Ukrainian military could be responsible for the crash
While western media and politicians have unilaterally blamed Russia for the disaster, they have failed to mention the other side of the story that suggests that the Ukrainian military may have been responsible.
The Russian Defense Ministry has said that when a Malaysian Airlines plane was apparently shot down over Ukraine, a Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile battery was operational in the region. The ministry said that the battery was deployed at a site from which it could have fired a missile at the airliner. The Defense Ministry also added that the Ukrainian military has several batteries of Buk surface-to-air missile systems with at least 27 launchers, capable of bringing down high-flying jets, in the Donetsk region where the Malaysian passenger plane crashed. Furthermore, hours after the crash of the Boeing 777 was reported, Kiev published what it called intercepted communications between militia officers and their Russian handler to apparently discuss the take-down of a civilian aircraft by the militia. However, as was noted in this video, the alleged intercepted conversation was created before the plane crashed, suggesting that not only is the conversation fake, but whoever created it was aware about the impending disaster.
Ultimately, right now it is very difficult to confirm who was responsible for the crash, but it is imperative to know that there is some evidence that the Ukrainian military may have been involved, thus nullifying the unjustified claims that Russia is definitely to blame." http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-plane-crash-lies-and-sinister-political-agenda-by-the-west/5391913
Jul 19, 2014 09:35:13 #
larrypayne wrote:
Maybe this will help get this thread back on topic... (show quote)
I don't know Larry, I was inclined to go more in this direction! When I finish this bottle of vodka I will come back and provide more proof!
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