Bill Emmett wrote:
This is another post that does not show the true intention of the company. The problem is not with the Governor, of New York, but with a company who is trying to rid themselves of a UNION. If not, why the move to Alabama, a "right to work" state. Know that every employee hired in Alabama will be working at the same job a New Yorker held at about half the pay, and even less, or no benefits. Those new workers can look forward to no vacation to amount to, and only a day-to-day employment. As for the political Hoggers, don't follow the politics, follow the buck. The buck never lies, after all it's "in God we Trust".
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I happen to be good friends with an engineer that was part of the team that won this contract. He will be moving out of state to follow this new program. He will leave his and his wife's family and a place he loves, but there will be no work for him if he stays. Remington was well into looking into a local property that they intended to use for this new factory near the original plant called the "pumpkin patch". They enjoy a decently paid and highly skilled and talented work force with a job ethic that has allowed this company to operate at a profit for nearly 200 years.
This move was ALL about politics and the governor, exceedingly high energy rates and the sweetheart package Alabama offered the company that NY did not approach or attempt match- the businessmen that they are- they are more interested in taking more from companies then figuring ot how to help them thrive. Add into all this, a non-friendly political and business environment and you get the "move" that has seen many many high tech industrial companies to follow suit. GE is a mere shell of its former self all across the State, Chicago Pneumatic ( Top of the line pnumatic tools), Freidrich Air Conditioning, Carrier ( the original air conditioning company) - all either gone or small compared to what they were. This list is too large to put a dent into here. It was never about the workers as they have been encouraged to move with the companies, it was with the State.
For Remington, all negotiations stopped and the company as a whole was incensed at the governors law and statements, coupled with the already higher costs of simply operating a company here and you get a sucking sound as people and jobs and money and whatever leave the state in a mad rush. This is the effect the Liberal form of doing business has on things.
Now there is talk about the state taxing people and business somehow, who leave the state to reflect the lost income they take with them... but there is freedom in the way- hasn't stopped Liberals in the past... when I find the specific story will post it..... meanwhile- look how Ultra high taxes have affect NY in general, and look at the sort of people who have left- the ones anyplace/state would most like to keep!
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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/escape-new-york-high-taxing-empire-state-loses-34-million-residents-10-yearsEscape From New York? High-Taxing Empire State Loses 3.4 Million Residents in 10 Years______________________________
Article at newsday:
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/census-trend-continues-as-more-people-leave-ny-than-move-in-1.6874080Census: Trend continues, as more people leave NY than move in( as this site has some restrictions- I have cut and pasted it below)
Originally published: January 24, 2014 6:34 PM
Updated: January 24, 2014 9:29 PM
By OLIVIA WINSLOW olivia.winslow@newsday.com
New York State continues a long-standing trend of seeing more residents move to other states than move in, and gains in international migration have not overcome the loss, according to census data released this week.
The state had an influx of more than 318,000 people from other countries between April 1, 2010, and July 1, 2013, but saw more than 328,000 people leave for other parts of the nation during that time, for a net migration loss of about 10,400, according to the new estimates.
The U.S. Census Bureau data on births, deaths, international migration and domestic migration shed light on population estimates for the nation and states that the agency released last month.
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Still, New York had more births than deaths and experienced an overall population gain of 1.4 percent between April 2010 and July 2013 for an estimated population of 19,651,127.
The latest data also show that between July 1, 2012, and July 1, 2013, New York lost just over 104,000 residents to other states what it calls domestic migration while gaining nearly 102,000 people from international migration.
It has been "a long trend that more people are leaving the state than arriving . . . from other states," said Jan Vink, a researcher with Cornell University's Program on Applied Demographics.
Historical census data of year-to-year changes in domestic migration show, however, that New York lost far more people to other states before the recession hit. For example, New York had a record-high domestic migration loss of more than 246,000 people in 2005.
"In some ways, New York has lost less people because the recession slowed out-migration from the state," said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer at the University of New Hampshire's Carsey Institute.
Johnson, noting census estimates that show Florida is poised to soon overtake New York as the nation's third most populous state, said the number of people from New York moving to Florida "is quite a bit less than it was during the economic boom." He added, "The effect of the recession was freezing people in place."
The data show "Americans are moving less," said Ben Bolender, a Census Bureau demographer.
Lee Koppelman, executive director of Stony Brook University's Center for Regional Policy Studies, cited economic reasons for New York's domestic migration losses.
"One of the reasons, of course, is the high cost of living in New York," he said, pointing to retirees leaving for places such as Arizona, the Carolinas and "certainly, Florida."