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Mar 14, 2014 10:41:43   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
izzyandal wrote:
I'm a libberralll and I own nine handguns, four rifles and two shotguns.
I shoot several times per week and belong to three guns clubs. I've been an NRA member since I was twelve.

Now, please be so kind as to not paint all lib-er-als as anti gun.

BTW, I reload all my brass and shotgun shells so I'm amused by how some vendors have become greedy. Bass Pro Shops are not gouging us, but DICK'S
is

Please, we gun guys should stick together regardless of other differences.

HMMM yesterday ole Izzy was hammering the NRA for its "scare tactics" Today hes crowing about being a member for eons….if you dont like it..get out!!!!!!

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Mar 14, 2014 10:46:08   #
izzyandal Loc: Hilton Head Island
 
Hey there Dick C.
I love the pic of your kitty.

My Snowshoe cat
My Snowshoe cat...

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Mar 14, 2014 12:09:01   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
izzyandal wrote:
Hey there Dick C.
I love the pic of your kitty.


Thanks izzy, love your cat pic too! I get lots of compliments on my avatar, don't know why because it's just an old cat sitting in a basement window.

I'm just as big of a gun guy as you (retired gunsmith, 52 years in the gun business), but I'm on the extreme right wing, conservative all the way!! :mrgreen:

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Mar 14, 2014 12:27:55   #
izzyandal Loc: Hilton Head Island
 
No problem....as I said, I love our nation as much as any T party enthusiast and respect your point of view.
I'm a wounded. Warrior and took one for the team.

Keep shooting, but safely.

Regards,
Captain Albert Nalven
Master Mariner
United States Merchant Mariine
Lic. 1058845

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Mar 14, 2014 12:54:35   #
Daniel Z Loc: Winston, Georgia
 
Horah! Roll Tide! Way to go Remington!

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Mar 14, 2014 13:09:17   #
DickC Loc: NE Washington state
 
wilpharm wrote:
HMMM yesterday ole Izzy was hammering the NRA for its "scare tactics" Today hes crowing about being a member for eons….if you dont like it..get out!!!!!!


Guess I missed this, thanks for bringing this up. I'm a Life (Endowment) member myself. :D :D

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Mar 14, 2014 13:56:35   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
This is another post that does not show the true intention of the company. The problem is not with the Governor, of New York, but with a company who is trying to rid themselves of a UNION. If not, why the move to Alabama, a "right to work" state. Know that every employee hired in Alabama will be working at the same job a New Yorker held at about half the pay, and even less, or no benefits. Those new workers can look forward to no vacation to amount to, and only a day-to-day employment. As for the political Hoggers, don't follow the politics, follow the buck. The buck never lies, after all it's "in God we Trust".

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Mar 14, 2014 14:11:52   #
Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
This is another post that does not show the true intention of the company. The problem is not with the Governor, of New York, but with a company who is trying to rid themselves of a UNION. If not, why the move to Alabama, a "right to work" state. Know that every employee hired in Alabama will be working at the same job a New Yorker held at about half the pay, and even less, or no benefits. Those new workers can look forward to no vacation to amount to, and only a day-to-day employment. As for the political Hoggers, don't follow the politics, follow the buck. The buck never lies, after all it's "in God we Trust".
This is another post that does not show the true i... (show quote)


Yep, you can also thank the unions for outrages gun prices, running company's and job's out of the US to survive and Obama! Enough said!

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Mar 14, 2014 15:13:43   #
jcs Loc: USA
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
This is another post that does not show the true intention of the company. The problem is not with the Governor, of New York, but with a company who is trying to rid themselves of a UNION. If not, why the move to Alabama, a "right to work" state. Know that every employee hired in Alabama will be working at the same job a New Yorker held at about half the pay, and even less, or no benefits. Those new workers can look forward to no vacation to amount to, and only a day-to-day employment.
This is another post that does not show the true i... (show quote)


Since you're an expert ,
you should inform those idiot VW emplyees in Tennessee that they need to change their minds and immediately join the UAW Union .
Those evil VW executives are already plotting to cut their salaries in half,or even less , cancel their benefits and vacations and only employ them on a day -to-day basis . Lol

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Mar 14, 2014 15:20:33   #
Dick Z. Loc: Downers Grove IL
 
GeneB wrote:
Why does he think I want to live in New York in the first place.

Quote "A month ago, Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) said, "extreme conservatives" who
are "right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay," have "no place in the
state of New York." I have no issue with gay's except they talk to much and make a big deal of their "coming out". I have no problem with a rifle having more than a one shot capability, even though we did pretty good with those kinds of weapons once before but then that is all that both sides had. By the way Cuomo you do not speak for all New Yorkers or the rest of the country for that matter, so please shut your trap on these issues. BTW the poor need donations from you for food.

One last thought, New York's loss the South's gain
Why does he think I want to live in New York in th... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 14, 2014 16:10:31   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
This is another post that does not show the true intention of the company. The problem is not with the Governor, of New York, but with a company who is trying to rid themselves of a UNION. If not, why the move to Alabama, a "right to work" state. Know that every employee hired in Alabama will be working at the same job a New Yorker held at about half the pay, and even less, or no benefits. Those new workers can look forward to no vacation to amount to, and only a day-to-day employment. As for the political Hoggers, don't follow the politics, follow the buck. The buck never lies, after all it's "in God we Trust".
This is another post that does not show the true i... (show quote)


I happen to be good friends with an engineer that was part of the team that won this contract. He will be moving out of state to follow this new program. He will leave his and his wife's family and a place he loves, but there will be no work for him if he stays. Remington was well into looking into a local property that they intended to use for this new factory near the original plant called the "pumpkin patch". They enjoy a decently paid and highly skilled and talented work force with a job ethic that has allowed this company to operate at a profit for nearly 200 years.

This move was ALL about politics and the governor, exceedingly high energy rates and the sweetheart package Alabama offered the company that NY did not approach or attempt match- the businessmen that they are- they are more interested in taking more from companies then figuring ot how to help them thrive. Add into all this, a non-friendly political and business environment and you get the "move" that has seen many many high tech industrial companies to follow suit. GE is a mere shell of its former self all across the State, Chicago Pneumatic ( Top of the line pnumatic tools), Freidrich Air Conditioning, Carrier ( the original air conditioning company) - all either gone or small compared to what they were. This list is too large to put a dent into here. It was never about the workers as they have been encouraged to move with the companies, it was with the State.

For Remington, all negotiations stopped and the company as a whole was incensed at the governors law and statements, coupled with the already higher costs of simply operating a company here and you get a sucking sound as people and jobs and money and whatever leave the state in a mad rush. This is the effect the Liberal form of doing business has on things.

Now there is talk about the state taxing people and business somehow, who leave the state to reflect the lost income they take with them... but there is freedom in the way- hasn't stopped Liberals in the past... when I find the specific story will post it..... meanwhile- look how Ultra high taxes have affect NY in general, and look at the sort of people who have left- the ones anyplace/state would most like to keep!

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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/escape-new-york-high-taxing-empire-state-loses-34-million-residents-10-years


Escape From New York? High-Taxing Empire State Loses 3.4 Million Residents in 10 Years

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Article at newsday:
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/census-trend-continues-as-more-people-leave-ny-than-move-in-1.6874080


Census: Trend continues, as more people leave NY than move in

( as this site has some restrictions- I have cut and pasted it below)

Originally published: January 24, 2014 6:34 PM
Updated: January 24, 2014 9:29 PM
By OLIVIA WINSLOW olivia.winslow@newsday.com
New York State continues a long-standing trend of seeing more residents move to other states than move in, and gains in international migration have not overcome the loss, according to census data released this week.

The state had an influx of more than 318,000 people from other countries between April 1, 2010, and July 1, 2013, but saw more than 328,000 people leave for other parts of the nation during that time, for a net migration loss of about 10,400, according to the new estimates.

The U.S. Census Bureau data on births, deaths, international migration and domestic migration shed light on population estimates for the nation and states that the agency released last month.

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Still, New York had more births than deaths and experienced an overall population gain of 1.4 percent between April 2010 and July 2013 for an estimated population of 19,651,127.

The latest data also show that between July 1, 2012, and July 1, 2013, New York lost just over 104,000 residents to other states — what it calls domestic migration — while gaining nearly 102,000 people from international migration.

It has been "a long trend that more people are leaving the state than arriving . . . from other states," said Jan Vink, a researcher with Cornell University's Program on Applied Demographics.

Historical census data of year-to-year changes in domestic migration show, however, that New York lost far more people to other states before the recession hit. For example, New York had a record-high domestic migration loss of more than 246,000 people in 2005.

"In some ways, New York has lost less people because the recession slowed out-migration from the state," said Kenneth Johnson, senior demographer at the University of New Hampshire's Carsey Institute.

Johnson, noting census estimates that show Florida is poised to soon overtake New York as the nation's third most populous state, said the number of people from New York moving to Florida "is quite a bit less than it was during the economic boom." He added, "The effect of the recession was freezing people in place."

The data show "Americans are moving less," said Ben Bolender, a Census Bureau demographer.

Lee Koppelman, executive director of Stony Brook University's Center for Regional Policy Studies, cited economic reasons for New York's domestic migration losses.

"One of the reasons, of course, is the high cost of living in New York," he said, pointing to retirees leaving for places such as Arizona, the Carolinas and "certainly, Florida."

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Mar 14, 2014 17:58:22   #
smith934 Loc: Huntsville, Alabama
 
jcs wrote:
Yeah ,
I hope the part with the 2000 employees is moving to Alabama.
And the part which still makes typewriters will stay in NY ( as a Tax writeoff , to pay for the re-location expenses ) Lol


What they said is that they will be creating 2K jobs, not necessarily moving them. This is billed as an expansion.

I doubt they have made a typewriter in at least 25 years, probably more.

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Mar 14, 2014 18:30:01   #
bob44044 Loc: Ohio
 
It's just a start. The rest of Remington will follow soon.

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Mar 14, 2014 21:34:36   #
lfdavis Loc: Pelham, Alabama
 
Welcome, Remington. Good to have you here.

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Mar 14, 2014 21:44:00   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
he idiot governor and the moron mayor of NYC do NOT represent the sentiments of NY State.

Too bad the cumo decided to thro away more good paying career jobs and send them packing.

Guess I'll swing by the gun store and buy a new bear rifle tomorrow

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