Canon or Nikon
Dec 17, 2013 15:17:33 #
Glider
Loc: Austin
Hell, I'm not the one who got it wrong! Canon has been misspelling their own name for years. And the way Nikon got a foothold in this country is Life photographers were sending back incredibly sharp images fromKorea. they had parked their Leica's and picked up Nikons unbeknown to Life staff and were using them. Word spread!
Dec 17, 2013 15:18:30 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
MT Shooter wrote:
And they are all fine cameras within their limitations. Many people are not interested in the EVIL series cameras and that shows in the extremely low market share they hold, amongst all the brands available. But there is a market for them and those that want them are usually quite satisfied with their results. Fuji makes a very nice competitive line and I rate both quite equal in image quality.
I'm a fan of options for different preferences. The thing that concerns me is when a particular tendency ends up taking away options I like. I like optical viewfinders, but they are disappearing with P&S cameras. I know the manufacturers can't make everything, and there are reasons for the other options, so I have to lobby for the feature I prefer so the demand for it keeps it around.
Dec 17, 2013 15:28:57 #
MT Shooter wrote:
And they are all fine cameras within their limitations. Many people are not interested in the EVIL series cameras and that shows in the extremely low market share they hold, amongst all the brands available. But there is a market for them and those that want them are usually quite satisfied with their results. Fuji makes a very nice competitive line and I rate both quite equal in image quality.
This was taken from MT. Washington in Pittsburgh with an NEX-7 and the Zeiss 24mm f1.8 lens. It was then run through Photomatix Essentials.
NEX-7, Zeiss 24mm f1.8 shot at f5.6, 2.5", ISO 200
Dec 17, 2013 16:10:51 #
magic823 wrote:
Or get the best of all worlds with a Sony A7. Full Frame and with the proper adapters use Canon, Nikon, Sony, Leitz, zeiss glass. ;)
:thumbup:
That's what I did.
Dec 17, 2013 16:17:16 #
Glider wrote:
Look, it's the skill of the photographer that matters.
I shoot multiple D4's and a D800E.
Cannon
I shoot multiple D4's and a D800E.
Cannon
Glider, you had me buying in there for a second, till I saw what you shoot.
You obviously don't believe it has nothing to do with the camera !
Glider, spell Cannnon any way you want. It won't change the FACT that Cannnnon is spanking the pants off of Nikoon. ;-)
SS
Dec 17, 2013 16:22:11 #
Peter Boyd wrote:
The reason is that "There's one born every minute"
Just joking, Canon aren't bad.
Just joking, Canon aren't bad.
Peter, if there was not one born every minute, who would EVER buy a Nikon ?!
Just joking. :-)
Peter, P.T. Barnum used a Canon !!!(?)
SS
Dec 17, 2013 16:47:24 #
amehta wrote:
There is no question that Canon had a better DSLR line-up up until 2007. I think the D3/D300 combo made it basically a dead heat, and that's still the case today. Obviously you think otherwise, I'm curious why.
What happened in 2007? In 2005 I bought and still have a Canon 5D that I've been happy with. In 2009 I added a 5D MkII and love it as well. Did I blink sometime in 2007?
In any case, I didn't and still don't want to reinvest in a Nikon body AND new lenses. I don't bash my Nikonian friends, however. And Canon phone tech help is superb.
Dec 17, 2013 17:25:52 #
u02bnpx wrote:
What happened in 2007? In 2005 I bought and still have a Canon 5D that I've been happy with. In 2009 I added a 5D MkII and love it as well. Did I blink sometime in 2007?
In any case, I didn't and still don't want to reinvest in a Nikon body AND new lenses. I don't bash my Nikonian friends, however. And Canon phone tech help is superb.
In any case, I didn't and still don't want to reinvest in a Nikon body AND new lenses. I don't bash my Nikonian friends, however. And Canon phone tech help is superb.
02, calm down, I'll tell you what happened.
In 05, marked the 3rd straight year that Canon outsold Nikon.
In 07, marked the 5th straight year Nikon got spanked.
In 09, marked the 7th straight year of the same.
And just to bring you up to speed(in case you blinked) 2013 marked the 11th straight year that Canon has changed Nikons diapers.
02, unless you have a hankering to use slow, heavy lenses, you best stay right where you are !! Enjoy your mkll. :thumbup:
SS :lol:
Dec 17, 2013 17:37:34 #
Teddy Hill wrote:
I had my Canon rebel EOS T3i stolen a couple of weeks ago and am considering a Nikon D7100. Will I be disappointed?
Here's my suggestion. Do a BUNCH of research to narrow down your choices to the ones that appear to meet your needs. Then try renting the most promising to see which feels best and does the best job for you. Time consuming--yes. A bit more expensive trial process--probably. But at the end of the day, you'll likely make a better decision.
For the record, I use a Nikon D90 with all Nikon glass and love it. Used Nikon film gear and still have a favorite FM2 with some very old glass. Looking to buy the D7100 soon. Unless the D400 appears magically, of course. :D
Dec 17, 2013 17:58:15 #
The point is, and there have been a few replies to this effect, it's the photographer, not the camera, that makes the picture.
A number years back, when I worked in a camera store on Philadelphia's main line, where many of the customers had fat wallets and bought expensive Leicas, Canons and Nikon systems, I recall one older gentleman who came in for a filter. He had a well-used older Pentax SLR that probably cost him less than $200 with the lens. We got to talking and he showed me some photos he had in his camera bag. They were spectacular landscapes and wildlife photos that put the mundane pictures my Leica customers took to shame.
Of course those of us who sold cameras for a living always knew it was experience and talent that made the difference, not the equipment. But, it's a hard sell to convince people, especially those with a lot of money, that their bank account is not going to make them better photographers. They want to believe they can join the fraternity by spending.
As in most human enterprises, psychology plays a large role in the decisions people make - even in selecting what brand camera to purchase. And, once we make that selection, we seek affirmation that we made the right choice. We want to hear that Canon or Nikon is superior. It validates us. Sadly, too many of us believe it makes a difference.
From what I've seen on this site, we have a lot of talented photographers making fantastic pictures with every brand of camera under the sun. They are proof that we humans can adapt and be creative in any environment, as long as we believe in ourselves.
A number years back, when I worked in a camera store on Philadelphia's main line, where many of the customers had fat wallets and bought expensive Leicas, Canons and Nikon systems, I recall one older gentleman who came in for a filter. He had a well-used older Pentax SLR that probably cost him less than $200 with the lens. We got to talking and he showed me some photos he had in his camera bag. They were spectacular landscapes and wildlife photos that put the mundane pictures my Leica customers took to shame.
Of course those of us who sold cameras for a living always knew it was experience and talent that made the difference, not the equipment. But, it's a hard sell to convince people, especially those with a lot of money, that their bank account is not going to make them better photographers. They want to believe they can join the fraternity by spending.
As in most human enterprises, psychology plays a large role in the decisions people make - even in selecting what brand camera to purchase. And, once we make that selection, we seek affirmation that we made the right choice. We want to hear that Canon or Nikon is superior. It validates us. Sadly, too many of us believe it makes a difference.
From what I've seen on this site, we have a lot of talented photographers making fantastic pictures with every brand of camera under the sun. They are proof that we humans can adapt and be creative in any environment, as long as we believe in ourselves.
Dec 17, 2013 18:09:09 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
Go for the Nikon, Canons are such junk cameras that only an amateur would buy!
Dec 17, 2013 18:29:24 #
Funny... No one ever asks if Ernest Hemmingway wrote on a Royal, Underwood or Smith Corona typewriter. What was important is what he had to say and how he said it - not the brand of tools he used in his craft.
For the record, Hemmingway's portable mill was a Swedish-made Halda, a brand few people would recognize.
I suspect those photographers who are most critical of others' choices in cameras lack intrinsic talent or belief in their own skills. Why else would they resolutely embrace one brand to the exclusion of others.
Whenever I see a picture I admire, if I have the chance to question the photographer, it is to ask about technique, not what camera was used.
For the record, Hemmingway's portable mill was a Swedish-made Halda, a brand few people would recognize.
I suspect those photographers who are most critical of others' choices in cameras lack intrinsic talent or belief in their own skills. Why else would they resolutely embrace one brand to the exclusion of others.
Whenever I see a picture I admire, if I have the chance to question the photographer, it is to ask about technique, not what camera was used.
Dec 17, 2013 18:39:09 #
If you can afford all NEW lenses ( and I do not mean used) for the Nikon you will not be disappointed. If you have Canon lenses now that you want to keep or you can afford only older used Nikon lenses - then stay with Canon - their older used lenses are better than Nikon's.
Dec 17, 2013 18:51:06 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
imagemeister wrote:
If you can afford all NEW lenses ( and I do not mean used) for the Nikon you will not be disappointed. If you have Canon lenses now that you want to keep or you can afford only older used Nikon lenses - then stay with Canon - their older used lenses are better than Nikon's.
What older Canon and Nikon lenses you are comparing?
Dec 17, 2013 18:52:55 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
u02bnpx wrote:
quote=amehta There is no question that Canon had ... (show quote)
What did I say that implied that there is anything wrong with your 5D or 5DMkII, or that you should reinvest in Nikon equipment?
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