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Mar 18, 2023 15:50:30   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John

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Mar 18, 2023 16:09:39   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John


The moon appears larger when it is near the horizon, but that is an optical illusion. If that isn't the case, then it was probably pasted into the photograph at a larger size in a photo editor.

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Mar 18, 2023 16:11:24   #
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John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John



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Mar 18, 2023 16:16:49   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John


By using a longer focal length.

You a see an extreme example of this effect and how the photographer achieved it with this photo of a eclipse:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167595/Stunning-image-shows-boy-watching-solar-eclipse--taken-1-5-miles-away.html

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Mar 19, 2023 07:26:01   #
Red6
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John


It is fairly easy to do in one of the editors such as Photoshop, Affinity etc. Take a shot of the moon with a longer focal length lens and then take another shot of the background or landscape such as mountains or city. Adjust the images in the editor as needed and crop the moon shot to the size desired i.e. increase it a necessary to fit the composite image.

In the editor open the image of the city or mountains as the background layer and then in the next layer open the moon image and position or size it to the desired size.

This is the easiest way to put a large moon over a landscape. The moon is always going to be smaller than desired if the two images are shot together. There will also be issues with exposure most times if shot together. The moon is basically a daylight shot while the landscape will require more exposure. Very difficult to get both right at the same time.

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Mar 19, 2023 08:23:29   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John


There are different ways of doing it. Years ago, Kodak called in "Moons in the refrigerator" You would take images of the moon on film, record each one where you took it in the frame, then you would put the film in the refrigerator until you needed it. Because you exposed the film for the moon, the remainder of the image would be black, or, in this case, unexposed. Then you could take your film out of the refrigerator, and load it up, and with your notes on where the moon was in each frame you would then properly expose you city scape and place the moon in the sky. The result was a double exposure of the city scape and the moon in the sky.
You could control the size of the moon using different lenses. Generally speaking the longer the lens the bigger the moon in the frame.
Today with digital it is easier. I am sure all manufactures have this but with Nikon you shoot RAW, take your images of the moon in different locations in the sky and then using the same memory card you expose you second image on top of that one. Easy.
In the example below I chose the image of the moon in the upper right hand corner and exposed the balloons so the moon had room. I could control the size of the moon and had different sizes to choose from and I varied the moons location in all four corners of the frame and used the one that best fit this space.
Look to your camera manual for this feature, probably all manufactures have different names for it, or just google it.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.



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Mar 19, 2023 08:55:38   #
ELNikkor
 
I often did this in-camera with my Nikon FM/FE. I'd take the first photo, of maybe a cityscape with my 50mm f2 where no moon was, then, pull the multiple exposure lever and cock the camera, reset the exposure, put on my 200mm lens, recompose where I figured the moon would look good in the previous photo, and put the moon in that part of the frame. Often worked real well, though I wouldn't find out until weeks later when I had the film processed.

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Mar 19, 2023 10:07:11   #
Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado
 
Very cool photo and process!

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Mar 19, 2023 11:17:59   #
photoman43
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John


In my Nikon cameras, there are two ways to do it.

1. Set Multiple Exposure to two images. Take one of the moon, with the moon in the "right" position so it can be placed on top of the second image. Then recompose and change the lens to a shorter focal length and take the second image. The camera blends the two images into one.

2. Take two separate images with care of where to position the moon for blending. Select Image Overlay and combine the two images into a third image.

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Mar 19, 2023 12:03:58   #
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billnikon wrote:
There are different ways of doing it. Years ago, Kodak called in "Moons in the refrigerator" You would take images of the moon on film, record each one where you took it in the frame, then you would put the film in the refrigerator until you needed it. Because you exposed the film for the moon, the remainder of the image would be black, or, in this case, unexposed. Then you could take your film out of the refrigerator, and load it up, and with your notes on where the moon was in each frame you would then properly expose you city scape and place the moon in the sky. The result was a double exposure of the city scape and the moon in the sky.
You could control the size of the moon using different lenses. Generally speaking the longer the lens the bigger the moon in the frame.
Today with digital it is easier. I am sure all manufactures have this but with Nikon you shoot RAW, take your images of the moon in different locations in the sky and then using the same memory card you expose you second image on top of that one. Easy.
In the example below I chose the image of the moon in the upper right hand corner and exposed the balloons so the moon had room. I could control the size of the moon and had different sizes to choose from and I varied the moons location in all four corners of the frame and used the one that best fit this space.
Look to your camera manual for this feature, probably all manufactures have different names for it, or just google it.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.
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Mar 19, 2023 12:33:20   #
bobbyjohn Loc: Dallas, TX
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John

One can do a lot of such stuff in post. For example, in Luminar NEO, with transparent PNGs, you can have the moon as one layer, and other random stuff each on their own layer ... each sized to whatever ... and voila! ... here's an example. BTW, the kissing couple is my daughter and her husband.


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Mar 19, 2023 12:34:24   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
The moon appears larger when it is near the horizon, but that is an optical illusion. If that isn't the case, then it was probably pasted into the photograph at a larger size in a photo editor.


You see that in movies, too. I saw that in a movie a few nights ago. The moon was ridiculously large.

Aside from the optical illusion, it's possible to insert things into stills and videos.

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Mar 19, 2023 14:10:54   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
By using a longer focal length.

You a see an extreme example of this effect and how the photographer achieved it with this photo of a eclipse:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167595/Stunning-image-shows-boy-watching-solar-eclipse--taken-1-5-miles-away.html

Did I already post this?


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Mar 19, 2023 14:40:53   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
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Did I already post this?

Mike, are you suggesting that respondents should read all the comments already posted before adding their own? Imagine!


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Mar 19, 2023 15:16:25   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
John7199 wrote:
I have seen pictures with a landscape or city scape where the moon seems overly large, not in scale to everything else. How is this accomplished?
John


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John...

You did not mention Camera Brand in your post, or you did not mention Digital or File...

As an "old school" learner from 50+ years ago, I did a number of similar shots, as a "In Camera" double exposer using a Hasselblad 500C. In this setup, I would 'capture' my first image in a 'planned' location, then design the composition in such a way as to use other locations of 'lesser exposed area"... In the second shot, I would put my 'dark slide' into the camera back, remove the camera back, advance the shutter, put the camera back back onto the camera body, remove the dark slide then compose and trip the shutter for the second image...

Today, with many of the digital cameras we have today, this can still be done... such as in the example above taken in Tampa, Florida back in Dec of 2022

In the above shot, the first image was the 'overall' landscape of the 'cityscape' which was about 4 miles away with about 400mm (Canon RF 100-500mm zoon), then after going back to select the 'desired shot' of the landscape, I would next focus on the full moon, actually looking through the viewfinder in what Canon (the EOS R5) calls "Exposure Simulation" which allowed me to adjust setting to 'match out' the exposer of each... position the moon where I wanted it and after a good focus, on a tripod, I would take the second shot... Resulting in the above

Again, the above is 2 exposures, done 'in camera' where one exposure is done on top of the other...

Yes, in this shot, the moon is done at a full 500mm which allows the moon to appear much larget and the effect.

Hope this help....... Feel free to ask questions.


Cheers
Goldstar46
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