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Mar 9, 2023 22:30:47   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s.
Often, or more like once in a while, I’ll take one of my “older” smaller mirrorless cameras (+/- 12MP, 2/3”-1/1.7” sensor) out for a shoot. A personal challenge, and when I do it…..there are a few things of note:
• The difference in size, weight, grip and familiar feel in my hand…..invokes nostalgia…..(a good thing)
• It takes me a few minutes to recall how to adjust the settings and functions….or finding and experimenting with ones I rarely or never used.
• Composing through an older/different OVF, EVF or optical tunnel requires a different level of concentration; and seeing a different presentation of exposure information is inspiring.
• Pressing the shutter, I really notice how fast or slow the functions (auto-focus, metering, FPS, and recording) are presented and perform between shots.
• THEN, I’m back in the zone……remembering how fun and simple all this was, my high expectations…and how wonderfully gratifying the results were (and still are) when the camera was “younger. (Note….I don’t remember my film days being as enjoyable).
• Finally, I remember the temporary (and expensive) remedy for my last serious GAS attack (newer cameras), which caused me to have a class of “older cameras”.
No regrets…... and sometimes the “old camera/old gear” experience helps delay the next GAS attack…….(maybe?
It’s) all good……and keep shooting!

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Mar 9, 2023 22:36:23   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When new gear replaces your old gear, sell your old gear.

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Mar 9, 2023 22:50:13   #
13 Loc: I am only responsible to what I say..not what
 
...if you're old...sell it....if you're young...keep it, it might be worth big bucks some day! lol

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Mar 9, 2023 22:52:19   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RonDavis wrote:
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s.
Often, or more like once in a while, I’ll take one of my “older” smaller mirrorless cameras (+/- 12MP, 2/3”-1/1.7” sensor) out for a shoot. A personal challenge, and when I do it…..there are a few things of note:
• The difference in size, weight, grip and familiar feel in my hand…..invokes nostalgia…..(a good thing)
• It takes me a few minutes to recall how to adjust the settings and functions….or finding and experimenting with ones I rarely or never used.
• Composing through an older/different OVF, EVF or optical tunnel requires a different level of concentration; and seeing a different presentation of exposure information is inspiring.
• Pressing the shutter, I really notice how fast or slow the functions (auto-focus, metering, FPS, and recording) are presented and perform between shots.
• THEN, I’m back in the zone……remembering how fun and simple all this was, my high expectations…and how wonderfully gratifying the results were (and still are) when the camera was “younger. (Note….I don’t remember my film days being as enjoyable).
• Finally, I remember the temporary (and expensive) remedy for my last serious GAS attack (newer cameras), which caused me to have a class of “older cameras”.
No regrets…... and sometimes the “old camera/old gear” experience helps delay the next GAS attack…….(maybe?
It’s) all good……and keep shooting!
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s. br ... (show quote)


I don't see the pleasure.
I bet you really like going to a dentist with the old belt driven drill as well?

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Mar 9, 2023 23:32:13   #
User ID
 
I was messing with an M8 but its such a wretched machine I declined to borrow it. I do use M-mount lenses, but NOT on a Leica. The Leica just cant get out of its own way :-(

Im just not at all interested in miserable viewfinders, poor low light performance, weird sensors etc. My version of oldies is "never buy the Mark III until the Mark IV has become quite boring Old News".

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Mar 9, 2023 23:52:01   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I don't see the pleasure.
I bet you really like going to a dentist with the old belt driven drill as well?


No...not the dentist......but I love driving the better made luxury cars that were made better than today's "BS" buggies being sold a ridiculous prices! (I recently and sadly had to buy (and bought) a "BS" buggy)

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Mar 9, 2023 23:55:23   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
13 wrote:
...if you're old...sell it....if you're young...keep it, it might be worth big bucks some day! lol


Good point.....I'm approaching a "sale date"......we all are...LOL

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Mar 9, 2023 23:59:01   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
User ID wrote:
I was messing with an M8 but its such a wretched machine I declined to borrow it. I do use M-mount lenses, but NOT on a Leica. The Leica just cant get out of its own way :-(

Im just not at all interested in miserable viewfinders, poor low light performance, weird sensors etc. My version of oldies is "never buy the Mark III until the Mark IV has become quite boring Old News".



"never buy the Mark III until the Mark IV has become quite boring Old News"

Now, that's interesting?

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Mar 10, 2023 00:03:16   #
RonDavis Loc: Chicago, IL
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When new gear replaces your old gear, sell your old gear.


I agree....(but some old cameras have unique features that weren't built in the new ones). That's caused a delay my selling decision...date).

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Mar 10, 2023 00:26:48   #
gwilliams6
 
When I go from teaching my Digital Photography or Photojournalism classes and teach my 35mm B&W film class I get an instant return to the beginnings of my professional career, decades ago. It is a revelation about how far the gear and gear experience has changed.

But what doesn't change for me is the creative thinking process to making great compositions, capturing the right moment and knowing a thing or two about exposure and lighting along the way. And the anticipation and anxiety of having to wait until the film is developed and those negatives are on the light table to see what you have, is a great pause for both me and my university students in our world of instant image gratification.

I am happy to exist in both worlds of photography, on the cutting edge of the best of the latest tech, but also still having my hands on teaching, preserving and passing on first-hand the history of photography, and exposing young creative minds to another "new" creative medium.

And amazingly after weeks of their struggles and learning curves with the cameras, film, developing and printing processes, most of my 35mm B&W film class students come to embrace it as a "cool" thing by the end of the semester. And many then buy their own used SLR or rangefinder film cameras to add to their favorite smartphones.

Personally I still have a one of my old SLRs a Canon F1, and one of my old DSLRs a Nikon D3, but I have sold all my other DSLRs and earlier mirrorless cameras as I upgraded to better performing mirrorless models for my professional and personal work. I still get to use some older model DLSR and mirrorless cameras that we have in the university camera/lens kits for use by our photo students. I have to keep up with how they all work to help my students learn how to master the use of them.

Cheers and best to you all.

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Mar 10, 2023 03:06:36   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
RonDavis wrote:
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s.
Often, or more like once in a while, I’ll take one of my “older” smaller mirrorless cameras (+/- 12MP, 2/3”-1/1.7” sensor) out for a shoot. A personal challenge, and when I do it…..there are a few things of note:
• The difference in size, weight, grip and familiar feel in my hand…..invokes nostalgia…..(a good thing)
• It takes me a few minutes to recall how to adjust the settings and functions….or finding and experimenting with ones I rarely or never used.
• Composing through an older/different OVF, EVF or optical tunnel requires a different level of concentration; and seeing a different presentation of exposure information is inspiring.
• Pressing the shutter, I really notice how fast or slow the functions (auto-focus, metering, FPS, and recording) are presented and perform between shots.
• THEN, I’m back in the zone……remembering how fun and simple all this was, my high expectations…and how wonderfully gratifying the results were (and still are) when the camera was “younger. (Note….I don’t remember my film days being as enjoyable).
• Finally, I remember the temporary (and expensive) remedy for my last serious GAS attack (newer cameras), which caused me to have a class of “older cameras”.
No regrets…... and sometimes the “old camera/old gear” experience helps delay the next GAS attack…….(maybe?
It’s) all good……and keep shooting!
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s. br ... (show quote)


Almost, kinda sorta, but not really.
I was out abd about with my Zeiss Ikon 6x4.5, with some ebay film.
AH! Sunny16! So I pre set the Aperture, Focus and Speed.
Great camera- point and shoot, folds into a box that fits my back pocket!
I miss them days ... but the utter convenience of my D600 has spoiled me.
.

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Mar 10, 2023 05:38:57   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RonDavis wrote:
No...not the dentist......but I love driving the better made luxury cars that were made better than today's "BS" buggies being sold a ridiculous prices! (I recently and sadly had to buy (and bought) a "BS" buggy)


I agree about some old cars are fun to drive as well as old planes.
But like most new things I would rather drive a recent modern car or fly in a more modern plane or use a more modern camera.
I would imagine, for example, a R3 is far superior for fast sports, BIF etc. than a Nikon F or a Sinar view camera even though they might be fun to use.

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Mar 10, 2023 06:01:42   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
In your first post Ron you should have defined what camera you are talking about. New AI software, Topaz is my experience, can take a significantly cropped JPEG from my 2000 Kodak DC4800 that if shot raw is 3.1 mp and make it clean and sharp. Then treated with Topaz Gigapixel increases the resolution so that a large photo can be printed.

In your case Mirrorless cameras are not that old perhaps 2010 so is at least 10+ mpix and will become great in post-processing.

If upgrading, consider one of the 1" Superzoom pocket cameras. They do more tricks than Houdini and they are there when the image subject presents its self.

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Mar 10, 2023 07:25:49   #
Dr.CalebRodriguez
 
Good point. Just saying.

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Mar 10, 2023 07:38:09   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
RonDavis wrote:
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s.
Often, or more like once in a while, I’ll take one of my “older” smaller mirrorless cameras (+/- 12MP, 2/3”-1/1.7” sensor) out for a shoot. A personal challenge, and when I do it…..there are a few things of note:
• The difference in size, weight, grip and familiar feel in my hand…..invokes nostalgia…..(a good thing)
• It takes me a few minutes to recall how to adjust the settings and functions….or finding and experimenting with ones I rarely or never used.
• Composing through an older/different OVF, EVF or optical tunnel requires a different level of concentration; and seeing a different presentation of exposure information is inspiring.
• Pressing the shutter, I really notice how fast or slow the functions (auto-focus, metering, FPS, and recording) are presented and perform between shots.
• THEN, I’m back in the zone……remembering how fun and simple all this was, my high expectations…and how wonderfully gratifying the results were (and still are) when the camera was “younger. (Note….I don’t remember my film days being as enjoyable).
• Finally, I remember the temporary (and expensive) remedy for my last serious GAS attack (newer cameras), which caused me to have a class of “older cameras”.
No regrets…... and sometimes the “old camera/old gear” experience helps delay the next GAS attack…….(maybe?
It’s) all good……and keep shooting!
This might sound familiar to a few UHHer’s. br ... (show quote)


About the only old gear are my mechanics tools because they haven't made anything better to do the job, and firearms because the oldies need love & other reasons😎😎

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