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Jan 6, 2023 22:05:00   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
This is interesting news about Canon's push for software development and applications.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/04/canon-at-ces/?guccounter=1

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Jan 6, 2023 22:10:02   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Architect1776 wrote:
This is interesting news about Canon's push for software development and applications.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/04/canon-at-ces/?guccounter=1


Canon is a large enough company to do both and a bunch of other things.
It wouldn't surprise me if they own part of a car company also.

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Jan 6, 2023 22:17:17   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
robertjerl wrote:
Canon is a large enough company to do both and a bunch of other things.
It wouldn't surprise me if they own part of a car company also.


Tongue in cheek.

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Jan 7, 2023 01:48:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Tongue in cheek.


OK, how about this:
Does another branch of Canon makes these?

Cannon by Canon?!?!?!πŸ™„
Cannon by Canon?!?!?!πŸ™„...
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Jan 7, 2023 05:02:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
robertjerl wrote:
OK, how about this:
Does another branch of Canon makes these?


Very possibly, I see that there are people here on UHH with Cannons.

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Jan 7, 2023 09:41:57   #
AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
I have Canon photo printers and previously, when I had my own office, had big Canon commercial printer. Canon is a big company doing business in a lot of areas. They are not abandoning photographers.

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Jan 7, 2023 13:38:57   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
robertjerl wrote:
OK, how about this:
Does another branch of Canon makes these?


Of course. It's the revolutionary and world renowned Canon cannon. I think the Ukrainians have several.

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Jan 7, 2023 15:05:50   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Alafoto wrote:
Of course. It's the revolutionary and world renowned Canon cannon. I think the Ukrainians have several.


They probably got them from the FrenchπŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ˜πŸ˜Ž, since if I remember right (from the re-enactment) this is a 12 lb Napoleon.
However, it is a modern reproduction machined from steel and painted instead of Bronze. Bronze is a pain to take care of, either keep polishing it or it turns green. And if you paint it then why bother with the bronze, just machine it from modern metals.
The reproduction is stronger than the original bronze barrels, and therefore stronger and safer to fire.

99.99% of the viewers at a re-enactment won't know the difference anyway. They get what they are after BOOM and lots of smoke.

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Jan 7, 2023 15:14:43   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
I forgot, the Israelis actually used one to knock out some tanks back in the late 1940s.
They took the old gun from some war memorial the British put up during the days of the Mandate. A local metal worker/blacksmith made some hardened steel darts that fit the bore (much like the steel sabot rounds in many modern anti-tank guns) and they managed to knock out one or two Arab forces light tanks with it.
I read that so long ago I don't even remember in what book or magazine. I just remember they managed to turn a muzzle-loading cannon into an AT gun that worked.

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Jan 7, 2023 17:11:44   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
robertjerl wrote:
They probably got them from the FrenchπŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ˜πŸ˜Ž, since if I remember right (from the re-enactment) this is a 12 lb Napoleon.
However, it is a modern reproduction machined from steel and painted instead of Bronze. Bronze is a pain to take care of, either keep polishing it or it turns green. And if you paint it then why bother with the bronze, just machine it from modern metals.
The reproduction is stronger than the original bronze barrels, and therefore stronger and safer to fire.

99.99% of the viewers at a re-enactment won't know the difference anyway. They get what they are after BOOM and lots of smoke.
They probably got them from the FrenchπŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ˜πŸ˜Ž, si... (show quote)


Well, aged bronze develops a nice patina. However, since they use it and don't just display it, modern alloys seem to be a better choice. Since no real pressure builds up with no projectile in the barrel, possibly could be made of aluminum. Lighter, cheaper, easier to cast.

Above just a guess. I'm no metallurgist.

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Jan 7, 2023 17:15:01   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
robertjerl wrote:
I forgot, the Israelis actually used one to knock out some tanks back in the late 1940s.
They took the old gun from some war memorial the British put up during the days of the Mandate. A local metal worker/blacksmith made some hardened steel darts that fit the bore (much like the steel sabot rounds in many modern anti-tank guns) and they managed to knock out one or two Arab forces light tanks with it.
I read that so long ago I don't even remember in what book or magazine. I just remember they managed to turn a muzzle-loading cannon into an AT gun that worked.
I forgot, the Israelis actually used one to knock ... (show quote)


The Israelis are some very resourceful folk. Wonder what metal the darts were made of.

I'd be interested in finding that reference. Think I'll look about. Will send link if I find anything.

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Jan 7, 2023 18:21:26   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Alafoto wrote:
Well, aged bronze develops a nice patina. However, since they use it and don't just display it, modern alloys seem to be a better choice. Since no real pressure builds up with no projectile in the barrel, possibly could be made of aluminum. Lighter, cheaper, easier to cast.

Above just a guess. I'm no metallurgist.


Oh, many of those Artillery Re-enactors do fire projectiles upon occasion. Of course not during a re-enactment. At a range. When they sometimes get together to "plink" or seriously target shoot.

A guy I knew long ago whose group did that said the biggest problem they had was getting a new supply of "cannon balls" as they are made from fairly soft iron and deform or even shatter when they hit something. After they get deformed, they won't fit in the barrel anymore so you need new ones.

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Jan 7, 2023 18:27:21   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Alafoto wrote:
The Israelis are some very resourceful folk. Wonder what metal the darts were made of.

I'd be interested in finding that reference. Think I'll look about. Will send link if I find anything.


I am remembering a little more, if my memory is correct the people who did it were not IDF or even something like the Haganah. They were a group of people who had to mount a "do-it-yourself" defense because they were isolated from any organized military aid.

And these were crappy light tanks from early or even pre-WW II. The Arab nations and many other small or third world nations often used (maybe some still use them) those things on the idea that a crappy tank is better than no tank.
Remember among others the UK had things like the "Boys Anti-tank Rifle" as standard issue weapons.

The most recent I have read about is the South African made NTW-20 which fires the 20mm. A bunch of designs have been made in .50 BMG because the ammo is so easy to find.
Today they call them "Anti-Material Rifles" since they barely scratch the paint on modern tanks. They are used against trucks and other vehicles, structures, bunkers etc. And some have sights good enough to use against helicopters and low, slow aircraft. They often get used as super sized sniper rifles, esp against snipers, as they can shoot through the walls of many buildings and other places where a sniper might hide. And do it at longer range than rifle caliber sniper rifles.

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Jan 7, 2023 22:15:26   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
robertjerl wrote:
Oh, many of those Artillery Re-enactors do fire projectiles upon occasion. Of course not during a re-enactment. At a range. When they sometimes get together to "plink" or seriously target shoot.

A guy I knew long ago whose group did that said the biggest problem they had was getting a new supply of "cannon balls" as they are made from fairly soft iron and deform or even shatter when they hit something. After they get deformed, they won't fit in the barrel anymore so you need new ones.
Oh, many of those Artillery Re-enactors do fire pr... (show quote)


Bowling balls?

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Jan 8, 2023 01:19:56   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
TriX wrote:
Bowling balls?


Nope, soft iron cannonballs that fit the bore of the gun in question. 4.62 inches or 11.7 centimeters in size and just over 12.3 lb for the round solid shot of the 12lb Napoleon.

In 1861 when the war started, the US had 5 12lb Napoleons and the Confederate states had none. During the war the US Army and Union states ordered and made, 1165 more of them from six foundries (4 in Massachusetts made all but 53 of those) and the Confederate states ordered and made 501 from 7 foundries (266 from one iron works in Richmond, Virginia). For a total of 1671* made before or during the war. Since they are pretty durable, most were still around after the war. Many were destroyed, but many went into storage for the US Army and state militias. Then as they became obsolete more were destroyed, but many others ended up on war memorials, historic markers at battlefields and forts or mounted in front of government buildings etc.

* Some variation in a few of the guns, the early ones had lifting handles, most did not, one of the early guns had a barrel a few inches shorter and a few had thicker barrel walls. It depended on which foundry made them. But they all took the same projectiles so when captured by the other side they just brought up some ammo and used them.

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