Canisdirus wrote:
All of the programs mentioned let you do it manually.
They just give you one more option.
Usually, the results are very close to perfect...and why wouldn't they be?
It's a quick way to get to an optimal image if you want a realistic image that is.
If you want to go 'artistic'...then no.
But it can save you a lot of time.
I have done it both ways to the same images...and many times I end up manually where the 'AI' program ends up in a few seconds.
Sometimes not...but it still gets me a lot closer in less time without it.
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I don't normally comment and/or get involved in discussions like this, but I disagree with you on this and your previous statements regarding AI and post processing...
Canisdirus wrote:
All digital post processing is AI.
Canisdirus wrote:
Just because you are moving a slider ... it's the computer doing the processing.
It's all AI. Besides... I use Topaz...Lightroom...Photoshop. They all can make auto correction...and they all can do manual. If you auto white balance...that's AI...technically.
Canisdirus wrote:
Yup. Anyone using a digital camera has already bought into AI.
No matter how sophisticated the software behind it all...some humans wrote the algorithms.
Topaz and Luminar give you the 'option' of doing it all auto.
But what is auto? It's simply algorithms set up by someone to find an optimal image.
I use it sometimes, and it can be a great time saver...a starting point.
If I spent the time to get close to where the AI is in a second after hitting the key...I'd lose quite a bit of time.
I look at what the program (written by a human) has done...then make some adjustments to my personal taste.
If you are processing just a few images...do it the long way... It's like a stenographer in court. Lots of information distilled down very quickly...but still what was said.
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Not all digital post processing is AI or totally controlled by AI. Maybe if all you do is use a specific "Sky AI" or other targeted area auto AI slider in a software such as Luminar AI and make an adjustment and do nothing else in your post processing. But when YOU decide to do a dodge and burn to a specific area of your photo or apply a brush to a specific area, it is YOU that is choosing how much dodging or burning, or how much brush strokes that is being applied to that specific area, not the software. YOU are in total control of the processing that is being done to your image, not the AI in the software, and definitely not the computer itself making those decisions.
Yes, the software has algorithms built into it that allow it to work, but it is YOU the user that is controlling how much of each adjustment that is being applied, be it exposure, contrast, adjusting white balance with a custom kelvin setting, adjusting highlights, shadows, applying a tone curve, etc., etc., etc. It is NOT the software AI or the computer itself doing the processing as you state... YOU are instructing the software that you are using on your computer to apply the settings and adjustments that you have chosen, not the computer making those decisions and applying them on its own. You are deciding what to tell the computer and software to do.
If you are shooting in Raw only, then you have not "bought into AI" as you suggest, because you are not using the straight out of the camera (SOOC) that the camera manufacturer has built in to the cameras processing software and applied to that jpeg image.
You can argue this till the cows come home if you want to, but it will not change the fact of the matter that unless you are ONLY using the built in AI of the software application that you are using, it is YOU, the user, that is controlling what post processing is being done to your image['s] using your software of choice, not the AI.